Cycle advice - Long Lean Bulk

[MJL95]

Apologies for the long post, thought i'd include as much info as possible so can get some genuine feedback, all comments / feedback are welcome as I am relatively new to AAS.

Planning my next cycle which will commence in about 10-12 weeks. Plan will be a long lean bulk, my approach is always low & slow as a little goes along way for me with compounds. Goal of the cycle will be quality lean muscle mass, more definition whilst trying to maintain a hard dry look.

5'7, 70kg Fasted, roughly 12%BF. Diet, Training, Sleep very locked in I have a log up you's can check but will try summarise here. I run a little over range on E2 off 120MG test e currently. Current macro 220P 200C 50F I will be following similar to Sam Sulek & raising calories 100 at a time per week seeing how the weight tracks & increasing / decreasing as needed I don't want to blast straight into a dirty bulk.

Currently 1 week into a 10 week cut/recomp which looks like the below.
AAS:

• 120MG Test E Weekly (EOD inj)
• 20MG Anavar pre workout
• 100MG Mast P Weekly (EOD inj)

Peptides:

• 3IU HGH ED
• 2.5mg Reta Weekly
• 150MG NAD+ Weekly (EOD inj)
• 10MG SLU-PP322 pre workout

Ancillaries:

• 10MG Tadalafil ED

The planned Lean Bulk will look more like this.
AAS:

• 200-250MG Test E Weekly (EOD inj) - Adjustable depending on E2 response. 1- 20 Weeks
• 100-150MG PrimoWeekly (EOD inj) - Adjustable depending on E2 response. 1- 20 weeks.
• 5-10MG Tren A ED - Week 14-20. Understand this is a very advanced compound & has major side effects & as I am relatively new happy to be told to stay away from it / swap for some Anadrol or something as a bulk finisher.
• Peptides:
  • 4-5IU HGH ED - Currently love 3IU , not 100% sure increasing 1 or 2 IU will make a difference so can stay at 3 or increase more if needed.
  • 1-1.5mg Reta Weekly - To help make sure the bulk stays lean & clean not dirty.
  • 10MG SLU-PP322 pre workout.

Any & all advice / recommendations will be taken on board so I can learn from & finalise what this will look exactly like in 12 weeks time.

Cheers @the_alcatraz @abolone @pigsy @ChewedSleek @rizzlekdizzle

 

[the_alcatraz]

Apologies for the long post, thought i'd include as much info as possible so can get some genuine feedback, all comments / feedback are welcome as I am relatively new to AAS.

Planning my next cycle which will commence in about 10-12 weeks. Plan will be a long lean bulk, my approach is always low & slow as a little goes along way for me with compounds. Goal of the cycle will be quality lean muscle mass, more definition whilst trying to maintain a hard dry look.

5'7, 70kg Fasted, roughly 12%BF. Diet, Training, Sleep very locked in I have a log up you's can check but will try summarise here. I run a little over range on E2 off 120MG test e currently. Current macro 220P 200C 50F I will be following similar to Sam Sulek & raising calories 100 at a time per week seeing how the weight tracks & increasing / decreasing as needed I don't want to blast straight into a dirty bulk.

Currently 1 week into a 10 week cut/recomp which looks like the below.
AAS:

• 120MG Test E Weekly (EOD inj)
• 20MG Anavar pre workout
• 100MG Mast P Weekly (EOD inj)

Peptides:

• 3IU HGH ED
• 2.5mg Reta Weekly
• 150MG NAD+ Weekly (EOD inj)
• 10MG SLU-PP322 pre workout

Ancillaries:

• 10MG Tadalafil ED

The planned Lean Bulk will look more like this.
AAS:

• 200-250MG Test E Weekly (EOD inj) - Adjustable depending on E2 response. 1- 20 Weeks
• 100-150MG PrimoWeekly (EOD inj) - Adjustable depending on E2 response. 1- 20 weeks.
• 5-10MG Tren A ED - Week 14-20. Understand this is a very advanced compound & has major side effects & as I am relatively new happy to be told to stay away from it / swap for some Anadrol or something as a bulk finisher.
• Peptides:
  • 4-5IU HGH ED - Currently love 3IU , not 100% sure increasing 1 or 2 IU will make a difference so can stay at 3 or increase more if needed.
  • 1-1.5mg Reta Weekly - To help make sure the bulk stays lean & clean not dirty.
  • 10MG SLU-PP322 pre workout.

Any & all advice / recommendations will be taken on board so I can learn from & finalise what this will look exactly like in 12 weeks time.

Cheers @the_alcatraz @abolone @pigsy @ChewedSleek @rizzlekdizzle

start with 10mgs tren and 6 hgh legend you experienced

@Grumpy1 @abolone @koba @gar71 @BSS @Scuffer @Oths @ChewedSleek @Allupfromhere @pigsy

 

[Grumpy1]

Cycle looks good

 

[ChewedSleek]

Looks like a good stack to me. Judging from your posts and log, you appear to be a self-aware and intelligent human being - if you maintain that self-awareness while running Tren I don’t see you running into any issues. But, remember to be self-aware and to drop it the second you notice negatives.
I suggest running P5P a few weeks leading up and into running Tren and maybe even introducing 5-HTP into your sleep stack.
When I ran Tren the only negatives I ran into was night sweats and increased blood pressure. My wife wasn’t a fan of my night sweats but thinks I was actually nicer on Tren haha

 

[MJL95]

Looks like a good stack to me. Judging from your posts and log, you appear to be a self-aware and intelligent human being - if you maintain that self-awareness while running Tren I don’t see you running into any issues. But, remember to be self-aware and to drop it the second you notice negatives.
I suggest running P5P a few weeks leading up and into running Tren and maybe even introducing 5-HTP into your sleep stack.
When I ran Tren the only negatives I ran into was night sweats and increased blood pressure. My wife wasn’t a fan of my night sweats but thinks I was actually nicer on Tren haha

You’re a legend thanks for such a detailed response I will start doing research into this. Once I finalise what compounds I will do a deep dive into what is needed to protect whilst on them.

Haha funny that I have actually seen that from a few posts saying!!

 

[ChewedSleek]

You’re a legend thanks for such a detailed response I will start doing research into this. Once I finalise what compounds I will do a deep dive into what is needed to protect whilst on them.

Haha funny that I have actually seen that from a few posts saying!!

Anytime bro, when you finally decide on your bulk stack and ancillaries - tag us all in again and we can help out if needed. If there’s anything I’ve missed, someone will come through and point it out. Lots of collective knowledge here on EF!

Yeah, I explained it all to my wife before I trialled it and asked her to point out if I start acting irrationally or out of character and I would drop it right away.

 

[MJL95]

Anytime bro, when you finally decide on your bulk stack and ancillaries - tag us all in again and we can help out if needed. If there’s anything I’ve missed, someone will come through and point it out. Lots of collective knowledge here on EF!

Yeah, I explained it all to my wife before I trialled it and asked her to point out if I start acting irrationally or out of character and I would drop it right away.

Updated cycle plan :
AAS:

• 350MG Test E Weekly (EOD inj) - Adjustable depending on E2 response. 1- 20 Weeks
• 200-250MG PrimoWeekly (EOD inj) - Adjustable depending on E2 response. 1- 10 Weeks
• 5-10MG Tren A ED - Week 10-20.
• Peptides:
  • 6IU HGH ED -
  • 1-1.5mg Reta Weekly - To help make sure the bulk stays lean & clean not dirty.
  • 10MG SLU-PP322 pre workout.

Keeps it neater only need 1 bottle of Primo & no overlap with the Primo & Tren. Up the Test as that was a lot of the comments & from doing further research seems the best idea. Will look into what supps / protections I need for on Tren mainly neuro is what I am gathering from a lot of posts & other peoples experiences.

Feel free to throw anything else out there that can help whilst I stock up & research

Cheers Fellas !!

 

[OwEv751]

Not necessary a bad start cycle plan bro but when I went on a lean bulk with slightly different compounds as prescribed by @Gains Man

Test E 250mg / week
Mast E 200mg / week
NPP 100mg / week

See in my log how my start to end looked like 5kg gained max over 11 weeks.

Just an idea

Approved Log Post in thread 'Tiny Asian Growth Phase Cycle Log with Team Prymal'

Yesterday at 5:25 AM

Just read through your log. Really good progress bro! I'm sure you've heard it a million times already but you absolutely need to get that rest sorted! Everything else will be so much better if you can nail your sleep. In saying that I absolutely understand life gets in the way and having kids doesn't make it any easier ( i have 4 myself ) but you owe it to yourself for your health and gains to get on top of it before you jump on cycle again. Especially if your planning on running tren bro! If your only getting less than 6 hours sleep now you'll be getting next to none on tren and your...

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[the_alcatraz]

Updated cycle plan :
AAS:

• 350MG Test E Weekly (EOD inj) - Adjustable depending on E2 response. 1- 20 Weeks
• 200-250MG PrimoWeekly (EOD inj) - Adjustable depending on E2 response. 1- 10 Weeks
• 5-10MG Tren A ED - Week 10-20.
• Peptides:
  • 6IU HGH ED -
  • 1-1.5mg Reta Weekly - To help make sure the bulk stays lean & clean not dirty.
  • 10MG SLU-PP322 pre workout.

Keeps it neater only need 1 bottle of Primo & no overlap with the Primo & Tren. Up the Test as that was a lot of the comments & from doing further research seems the best idea. Will look into what supps / protections I need for on Tren mainly neuro is what I am gathering from a lot of posts & other peoples experiences.

Feel free to throw anything else out there that can help whilst I stock up & research

Cheers Fellas !!

looks clean legend

 

[ChewedSleek]

Updated cycle plan :
AAS:

• 350MG Test E Weekly (EOD inj) - Adjustable depending on E2 response. 1- 20 Weeks
• 200-250MG PrimoWeekly (EOD inj) - Adjustable depending on E2 response. 1- 10 Weeks
• 5-10MG Tren A ED - Week 10-20.
• Peptides:
  • 6IU HGH ED -
  • 1-1.5mg Reta Weekly - To help make sure the bulk stays lean & clean not dirty.
  • 10MG SLU-PP322 pre workout.

Keeps it neater only need 1 bottle of Primo & no overlap with the Primo & Tren. Up the Test as that was a lot of the comments & from doing further research seems the best idea. Will look into what supps / protections I need for on Tren mainly neuro is what I am gathering from a lot of posts & other peoples experiences.

Feel free to throw anything else out there that can help whilst I stock up & research

Cheers Fellas !!

Just make sure you titrate up to that 6iu. Don’t just jump straight to it! Keep us in the loop

 

[MJL95]

Just make sure you titrate up to that 6iu. Don’t just jump straight to it! Keep us in the loop

Nah I will start the titration now, upping it slowly during a cut shouldn’t impact to much ? Probably a little water retention but that’s not to bad

 

[ChewedSleek]

Nah I will start the titration now, upping it slowly during a cut shouldn’t impact to much ? Probably a little water retention but that’s not to bad

You can. I titrate up in 0.5iu increments every 3 weeks.