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rich piana 8 hour arm workout + MGF

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so my arms are by far my worst body part and im looking to add about 1.5-2 inches to them over this 2 year off season. Im currently running sarms and plan on running a few different sarm cycles over the next two years. a few peptides esp. MGF have me exited to use them for site growth so my ambitious question is... would any of our sponsor sites like to send me some MGF to run intra workout for this arm workout, id log the whole thing etc. im guessing this a little ambitious but thought it would be a fun thing to try one day.



ps. i would probs shoot it every other shake and rotate between each head of the bicep and the long and lateral head of the tricep if i where to do this
 
I won't even watch his videos anymore. He is just a guy on YouTube trying to make a name for himself. Half of the things he says couldn't be further from the truth
 
Who the hell has that kind of time to spend just to do arms anyway?

haha, i agree with you, but i wouldnt mind doing it kind of out of fun (kind of like when people do 10k calorie challenge) and my arms are so stubborn a once off workout like this wouldnt hurt. On a more serious note though i am keen to try MGF for site growth in my arms but its very hard to find any decent logs on, esp with no PEG version of it. Anyone tried it before?
 
Not to mention it is hard as fuck to get peptides out here without paying literally 10-15x the price of international campanies...like you can pay $250-500 for ghrp2 from "anti ageing" peptide clinics!!!
 
Who the heck is going to spend that much of there day in the gym living on shakes? Your body needs real food not processed protein to grow
 
the video title is misleading just to draw in views and comments. youtube works like that..

what he is doing here is 16 workouts SPREAD OUT over 8 hours and feeding himself in between, using the bathroom etc. .. its not like you just do arms for 8 hours straight. gotta watch the video from start to finish and not fall in the trap of the misleading title to get it

it would be like running a lap 16X during an 8 hour span .. 1 lap every 30 minutes and then just relaxing in between...

you can easily do this at home if you have a home gym on a sunday to see how you react to it. its not such a ridiculous thing if you understand what he is meaning.
 
the video title is misleading just to draw in views and comments. youtube works like that..

what he is doing here is 16 workouts SPREAD OUT over 8 hours and feeding himself in between, using the bathroom etc. .. its not like you just do arms for 8 hours straight. gotta watch the video from start to finish and not fall in the trap of the misleading title to get it

it would be like running a lap 16X during an 8 hour span .. 1 lap every 30 minutes and then just relaxing in between...

you can easily do this at home if you have a home gym on a sunday to see how you react to it. its not such a ridiculous thing if you understand what he is meaning.


I agree

Just watched the video was thinking the same thing at home on a weekend

Lots of shakes lol
 
the video title is misleading just to draw in views and comments. youtube works like that..

what he is doing here is 16 workouts SPREAD OUT over 8 hours and feeding himself in between, using the bathroom etc. .. its not like you just do arms for 8 hours straight. gotta watch the video from start to finish and not fall in the trap of the misleading title to get it

it would be like running a lap 16X during an 8 hour span .. 1 lap every 30 minutes and then just relaxing in between...

you can easily do this at home if you have a home gym on a sunday to see how you react to it. its not such a ridiculous thing if you understand what he is meaning.

also agree with you in fact i think its highly likely some off mini workouts are replayed and he probably didnt even do all 16 of them. funnily enough i do train from home so something like this wouldnt be too much of a hassle. if i were to do this it would be more of a "challenge" like those who do the 10k calorie challenge, however maybe doing something ridiculous like this once every blue moon may yield some minor benefit.

what i really want to know is have any of you used MGF no peg in lagging body part and have you had decent results. i am struggling to find any complete logs on it.
 
the video title is misleading just to draw in views and comments. youtube works like that..

what he is doing here is 16 workouts SPREAD OUT over 8 hours and feeding himself in between, using the bathroom etc. .. its not like you just do arms for 8 hours straight. gotta watch the video from start to finish and not fall in the trap of the misleading title to get it

it would be like running a lap 16X during an 8 hour span .. 1 lap every 30 minutes and then just relaxing in between...

you can easily do this at home if you have a home gym on a sunday to see how you react to it. its not such a ridiculous thing if you understand what he is meaning.

also agree with you in fact i think its highly likely some of mini workouts are replayed and he probably didnt even do all 16 of them. funnily enough i do train from home so something like this wouldnt be too much of a hassle. if i were to do this it would be more of a "challenge" like those who do the 10k calorie challenge, however maybe doing something ridiculous like this once every blue moon may yield some minor benefit.

what i really want to know is have any of you used MGF no peg in lagging body part and have you had decent results. i am struggling to find any complete logs on it.
 
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its not THAT big a deal if you think about it.. back when the country was manufacturing jobs people would grab their hard hats and go to work every morning for 8 hour shifts working at the factory or whatever. you took a break here and there. you had lunch.. those were labor jobs and required a lot of lifting and such.

or how bout during the 1800's people who worked the railroads or were miners

it would be silly to do this type of workout at a gym though as you would have to go in do a set, then leave .. and go back again 30 minutes later.. they would wonder why you swiped in 16X that day and probably think you were sharing your membership lol
 
^^^ the idea here is to spread your hormones over 8 hours vs. just doing 16 sets in a 50 minute workout

its not THAT big a deal if you think about it.. back when the country was manufacturing jobs people would grab their hard hats and go to work every morning for 8 hour shifts working at the factory or whatever. you took a break here and there. you had lunch.. those were labor jobs and required a lot of lifting and such.

or how bout during the 1800's people who worked the railroads or were miners

What if I were to one up rich piana and do a legit 8 hour arm workout? Haha

And by spreading hormones out I take it you mean controlling cortisol and other catabolic hormones during training?
 
I have already talked to my Buddie ima do it may 2 2nd

Will be three weeks in on my npp cycle using milk in my shakes for simple sugars and carbs that's one gal of milk that day

Skim milk to minimize fat intake post workout with a good ISO protein



See how it goes think it won't be that bad besides wicked pumps

I have a free day plus I got a gym key so it's all good

Tv in break room I'm golden
 
And from what I understand its still 16 workouts consisting of 8 sets (4 for bi's and 4 for tri's) so that's still 128 sets which is an insane amount of volume in a day
 
I have already talked to my Buddie ima do it may 2 2nd

Will be three weeks in on my npp cycle using milk in my shakes for simple sugars and carbs that's one gal of milk that day

Skim milk to minimize fat intake post workout with a good ISO protein



See how it goes think it won't be that bad besides wicked pumps

I have a free day plus I got a gym key so it's all good

Tv in break room I'm golden

Log it in between workouts! I'll sub haha
 
Shit not like I don't have the rest of my life to do fitness might as well make use of my sat since I don't drink or party. Ha

Figure it's a good challenge to compete with my Buddie
 
Will do I will log the whole lift !!!

What lifts I do
Pump and how the npp feels running through my veins !!!!
 
Shit not like I don't have the rest of my life to do fitness might as well make use of my sat since I don't drink or party. Ha

Figure it's a good challenge to compete with my Buddie

Yeah it a hell of a lot better of a challenge than the 10k calorie challenge for me! To start with 10k cals isn't even that much after a 26 week cut! And all 10k cals will do is make me fat and look like a watery mess for a week! Lol
At least this might help me grow my stubborn arms a tiny bit
 
Ha bro 10 k cal a day is easy for me

I think I have a eating disorder lol I can hammer 4-6 in one meal

It's a hard task to stay below 10%

I think of food more than anything

No joke
 
Ha bro 10 k cal a day is easy for me

I think I have a eating disorder lol I can hammer 4-6 in one meal

It's a hard task to stay below 10%

I think of food more than anything

No joke

I know exactly what you mean! I did plan on reverse dieting out this aborted comp prep and staying lean but then I was like oooh pizza, ice cream, donuts....... 9 weeks later up like 20lbs and like 5% body fat
 
Yea
It's a task for us with big appetites

I always go up some weight but never above 12-13% bf
That's just unacceptable
 
And from what I understand its still 16 workouts consisting of 8 sets (4 for bi's and 4 for tri's) so that's still 128 sets which is an insane amount of volume in a day

well if that's the case then disregard what I wrote earlier lol I thought it was 16 sets

that's just crazy for 1 day
 
Ha gives me a mini goal for the day lol

Figure it's a good way to spend a day wile I'm training at the gym and since lifting is my new party life guess it's gonna be one hell of a party day
 
I used to like Rich Piana a lot. I still in most ways. But so many of these guys known for no bullshit are actually the worst bullshitters. Some massive volume days using sparingly will be good for weak body parts but this is just plain silly. Rich was a great bodybuilder but his arms were his weakest body part in his prime (legs being the strongest). The reason he looks the way he does now is the massive amounts of PMMA injected all over (mainly in his upper body though). I have seen Rich in person and he looks incredible but take most of his videos with a pinch of salt. If arms are a weak body part then you have to play around with exercises and angles, volume and rep ranges. Another thing I highly recommend is injecting most of the things you use in your arms... that may be aas, lr3, des, mgf etc.
 
I used to like Rich Piana a lot. I still in most ways. But so many of these guys known for no bullshit are actually the worst bullshitters. Some massive volume days using sparingly will be good for weak body parts but this is just plain silly. Rich was a great bodybuilder but his arms were his weakest body part in his prime (legs being the strongest). The reason he looks the way he does now is the massive amounts of PMMA injected all over (mainly in his upper body though). I have seen Rich in person and he looks incredible but take most of his videos with a pinch of salt. If arms are a weak body part then you have to play around with exercises and angles, volume and rep ranges. Another thing I highly recommend is injecting most of the things you use in your arms... that may be aas, lr3, des, mgf etc.


I agree with you hundred percent doing this for volume in my arms I'm doing this just for the hell of it to spend a day Messing around

Going to hang out with my buddies grab a huge breakfast if the gym how they grab a huge dinner and just kick it
 
A lot of things that people say on YouTube people is supplemented medias I don't buy and most of it I just left knew what makes me happy and make my own choices


As of this morning before I read the Op original post I would've never thought to do this but something just spark my interest in having a challenge with my boys
 
A lot of things that people say on YouTube people is supplemented medias I don't buy and most of it I just left knew what makes me happy and make my own choices


As of this morning before I read the Op original post I would've never thought to do this but something just spark my interest in having a challenge with my boys

Yeah I would do something like this for fun and it will make your arms swell up for the day. Trust me I have tried alsorts of stuff... usually with my calves... I trained my calves hard everyday for a year :D
 
Ha yea my calves are the weakest muscle and the smallest I have truly hate it

I watched mike rashid do 110 pound dumbbells for 100 reps in about 12 to 15 minutes

It was by far impressive lift I like those kind of lifts everynow and then I like watching people push themselves and just busting ass raw power every vein pop out and just watch the beast mode kick in
 
the video title is misleading just to draw in views and comments. youtube works like that..

what he is doing here is 16 workouts SPREAD OUT over 8 hours and feeding himself in between, using the bathroom etc. .. its not like you just do arms for 8 hours straight. gotta watch the video from start to finish and not fall in the trap of the misleading title to get it

it would be like running a lap 16X during an 8 hour span .. 1 lap every 30 minutes and then just relaxing in between...

you can easily do this at home if you have a home gym on a sunday to see how you react to it. its not such a ridiculous thing if you understand what he is meaning.

This theory has actually been around the bodybuilding community for many years.
Its not something he came up with on his own.
 
I used to like Rich Piana a lot. I still in most ways. But so many of these guys known for no bullshit are actually the worst bullshitters. Some massive volume days using sparingly will be good for weak body parts but this is just plain silly. Rich was a great bodybuilder but his arms were his weakest body part in his prime (legs being the strongest). The reason he looks the way he does now is the massive amounts of PMMA injected all over (mainly in his upper body though). I have seen Rich in person and he looks incredible but take most of his videos with a pinch of salt. If arms are a weak body part then you have to play around with exercises and angles, volume and rep ranges. Another thing I highly recommend is injecting most of the things you use in your arms... that may be aas, lr3, des, mgf etc.

Not running any injectables at the monent, not because I'm scared, I have run injectables before but peptides are insanely hard to get out here in Australia without paying a price that's simy not worth the benefit. And Im not using AAS at the moment.

And I agree with you in needing to find what works best to stimulate growth in my arms and so far what has worked best is periods of over training. Best arms gain i have had was when I did 3 arm days a week each with super high volume for 3 weeks then I had a week break from training arms and reaoeat the process for a few months.
 
Not running any injectables at the monent, not because I'm scared, I have run injectables before but peptides are insanely hard to get out here in Australia without paying a price that's simy not worth the benefit. And Im not using AAS at the moment.

And I agree with you in needing to find what works best to stimulate growth in my arms and so far what has worked best is periods of over training. Best arms gain i have had was when I did 3 arm days a week each with super high volume for 3 weeks then I had a week break from training arms and reaoeat the process for a few months.

Try training your arms 3 days per week but 20 mins max each time. Some days even 10mins max and just be very intense. When you train for long periods you require more recovery. Training in short bursts gives the stimulation but less time is needed to recover allowing for optimal growth. I now train most body parts this way... things overlap too so bi-ceps and tri-ceps on separate days at times. But working both in the same day is always gtg... same with hams and quads and chest and back.
 
Try training your arms 3 days per week but 20 mins max each time. Some days even 10mins max and just be very intense. When you train for long periods you require more recovery. Training in short bursts gives the stimulation but less time is needed to recover allowing for optimal growth. I now train most body parts this way... things overlap too so bi-ceps and tri-ceps on separate days at times. But working both in the same day is always gtg... same with hams and quads and chest and back.

Iv tried low volume high frequency trainininh in all different rep ranges and they didn't budge and I have tried having my split so I dont train Tris and bis on the same day but it doesn't seem to make much difference. Having said that since I've started on ostarine the do look bigger but I'd say its mainly just fullness from the increased calories.

I might just have to take a leaf out of Rich's book and get on some SEOs lol
 
Iv tried low volume high frequency trainininh in all different rep ranges and they didn't budge and I have tried having my split so I dont train Tris and bis on the same day but it doesn't seem to make much difference. Having said that since I've started on ostarine the do look bigger but I'd say its mainly just fullness from the increased calories.

I might just have to take a leaf out of Rich's book and get on some SEOs lol

As I mentioned if you ever try anything like LR3 or DES injecting it all in your arms and you will be surprised how much they improve in a short time. He uses PMMA which is permanent but syntherol is also great for weak body parts too.
 
As I mentioned if you ever try anything like LR3 or DES injecting it all in your arms and you will be surprised how much they improve in a short time. He uses PMMA which is permanent but syntherol is also great for weak body parts too.

I would definitely start running gear before I even considered any kind of sight enhancements. But when the money is there I think I'll take a risk and try get some peptides shipped out here, really interested on MGF no peg, its also cheap as far as peptides go so it would matter too much if it got stopped by customs which it likely will
 
Seems like a bad idea the dude seems like a moron to me honestly just trying to sell hisself. If Dorian Yates prepped for the Olympia on 200g of protein at 250 I highly doubt I need 10 shakes a day.
 
Bad idea how? As in ima get super fat? Or ima end up in the hospital?

Lol just cuz it's something you would not do how is it a bad idea?

Just am wondering the logic behind its a bad idea ?

Also 25 x 16 is 400 g

No one on here gets 400 g ever?

Not saying I support his theory or am thinking this is the best idea but a challenge is a challenge
 
For me a bad idea is running gear without pct if ur not on Trt

But how is a type of lift a bad idea ? Don't think it's heavy enough to cause injury so I'm just confused lol

;)
 
Bad idea how? As in ima get super fat? Or ima end up in the hospital?

Lol just cuz it's something you would not do how is it a bad idea?

Just am wondering the logic behind its a bad idea ?

Also 25 x 16 is 400 g

No one on here gets 400 g ever?

Not saying I support his theory or am thinking this is the best idea but a challenge is a challenge


Bad idea as in it's counter productive and a complete waste of time. And time is just about everything. And there's absolutely no need to ever eat 400 g of protein. Ever. Lol
 
Thanks dude for the clarification ...

Can't believe u never ever have eaten over 400 G protein u

I don't do that on my standard days but shit that's easy on a cheat day
 
Also if it in the gym all day does it really matter where u get ur energy from

The body has to work harder to convert protein into glucose therefore expending more energy

So if a standard serving of protein is 120 cal then that's not even 2000 cal for energy through the day add 1000 cal breakfast of carbs and 1000 at dinner with some fats ur only at 4000

Depending on ur body type I know some pros or competitors that take in 6000 cal

So in all honesty what's the issues with one day having your cal come from protein

I'm cutting now on but when I bulk if I don't get in at least 4000 cL I won't gain

But to me it really does not matter cuz this challenge is not for 1 inch on my arms it's for more of a chill time with my boys just dicking around enjoying what we love best that's lifting !!!

But respect ur opinion
Thanks for ur input
 
Thanks dude for the clarification ...

Can't believe u never ever have eaten over 400 G protein u

I don't do that on my standard days but shit that's easy on a cheat day


Id rather just up my carbs to spike leptin.. No benefit for the protein even though I love it it's a shitty energy source lol:p my normal days are like 200g and on refeeds I try to hit 180.
 
I agree dude carbs 100 %

But u gotta think that guy is 290-315 and 400 g is not that much for him
But I plan on doing 1/2 a serving of protein

But in all honesty ur right about it not being beneficially productive

I just have a free sat and am working all day at the gym with my boys why not try something way out in left field
 
Whilst the smart thing to do is use carbs and fats to spare protein so high amounts are not needed. But come on 400g is not a waste of time for everyone. I should add I think 200-300g is a good amount with high carbs and moderate fat. However some of the best bodybuilders on the planet regularly go well above 400g. Some even 1kg protein per day which is a ridiculous number but not 400. I know a lot of successful bodybuilders and even more huge guys and nearly all of them eat approx. 400g protein per day. Some of the best prep coaches in the world have their athletes on high protein. I am well aware if the protein is spared 200g is enough to be huge and lean but some guys simply need more (get better results using more).
 
Whilst the smart thing to do is use carbs and fats to spare protein so high amounts are not needed. But come on 400g is not a waste of time for everyone. I should add I think 200-300g is a good amount with high carbs and moderate fat. However some of the best bodybuilders on the planet regularly go well above 400g. Some even 1kg protein per day which is a ridiculous number but not 400. I know a lot of successful bodybuilders and even more huge guys and nearly all of them eat approx. 400g protein per day. Some of the best prep coaches in the world have their athletes on high protein. I am well aware if the protein is spared 200g is enough to be huge and lean but some guys simply need more (get better results using more).

There rumoura gourge far has had Kai on 1000g of protein at certain stages of his career! That is more likely to cause a gut than any amount of GH, sling, igf etc
 
Whilst the smart thing to do is use carbs and fats to spare protein so high amounts are not needed. But come on 400g is not a waste of time for everyone. I should add I think 200-300g is a good amount with high carbs and moderate fat. However some of the best bodybuilders on the planet regularly go well above 400g. Some even 1kg protein per day which is a ridiculous number but not 400. I know a lot of successful bodybuilders and even more huge guys and nearly all of them eat approx. 400g protein per day. Some of the best prep coaches in the world have their athletes on high protein. I am well aware if the protein is spared 200g is enough to be huge and lean but some guys simply need more (get better results using more).


When I found out lee Haney and Dorian prepped for the Olympia on 200g I stopped it and have gotten much better progress with lower protein.
 
Whilst the smart thing to do is use carbs and fats to spare protein so high amounts are not needed. But come on 400g is not a waste of time for everyone. I should add I think 200-300g is a good amount with high carbs and moderate fat. However some of the best bodybuilders on the planet regularly go well above 400g. Some even 1kg protein per day which is a ridiculous number but not 400. I know a lot of successful bodybuilders and even more huge guys and nearly all of them eat approx. 400g protein per day. Some of the best prep coaches in the world have their athletes on high protein. I am well aware if the protein is spared 200g is enough to be huge and lean but some guys simply need more (get better results using more).


So many studies showing protein in that amount just gets converted into an energy source (like carbs)but by far a lot worse of one. The only reason these pros say they eat that much protein is to sell supplements.. Guarantee most of their diets are carb oriented even have heard jay talk about this. 1g per kilo is all most coaches will have their athletes eat who are in far better shape then anyone on this board
 
Whilst the smart thing to do is use carbs and fats to spare protein so high amounts are not needed. But come on 400g is not a waste of time for everyone. I should add I think 200-300g is a good amount with high carbs and moderate fat. However some of the best bodybuilders on the planet regularly go well above 400g. Some even 1kg protein per day which is a ridiculous number but not 400. I know a lot of successful bodybuilders and even more huge guys and nearly all of them eat approx. 400g protein per day. Some of the best prep coaches in the world have their athletes on high protein. I am well aware if the protein is spared 200g is enough to be huge and lean but some guys simply need more (get better results using more).


But hey whatever works for them!
 
So many studies showing protein in that amount just gets converted into an energy source (like carbs)but by far a lot worse of one. The only reason these pros say they eat that much protein is to sell supplements.. Guarantee most of their diets are carb oriented even have heard jay talk about this. 1g per kilo is all most coaches will have their athletes eat who are in far better shape then anyone on this board

Kai greene was eating 1000g protein in a day of whole food. That is stupid but the same goes for many pro's... mainly solid foods. I know a lot of freaks and they aren't trying to sell me anything just being honest... they eat a lot of protein. For some it is not needed but for many who are carrying around loads of muscle it is. I know guys who have 400g protein just in shakes per day... again not needed but convenient for them and it allows them to maintain muscle mass.

Don't get me wrong though 200g is more than enough for most people if they have the necessary carbs and fat in place. The quality of the protein can be an important factor though.
 
Think of it like this about how many oz of meat are the pros eating ? Let's say 10 oz they prob eat a bit more off season

So 10 oz at about 65 g that's 325 for only 5 meals I have seen jay hit 14 oz of salmon in one meal

So even at 325 g at 5 meals they still have about two more meals 6-7 is what I have seen most eat

I'm sure it fluctuates but it is what it is

Honesty it's preferable to ones taste literally !! 😜😂
 
Iv heard some pros use protein cycling, the theory being the amino acid spike creates more anabolic environment then just always consuming huge amounts of protein, can't say I agree with this but then again I'm not the pro bodybuilder! lol
 
Haven't watched his other vids, but this one seems to have good workout recommendations... although don't know about 16 shakes, as that's quite a lot.
 
Haven't watched his other vids, but this one seems to have good workout recommendations... although don't know about 16 shakes, as that's quite a lot.

When I have the time I'm going to do it, although I'll probably change some of the shakes for a protein bar and some high GI carbs like fruit and lollies
 
I have already talked to my Buddie ima do it may 2 2nd

Will be three weeks in on my npp cycle using milk in my shakes for simple sugars and carbs that's one gal of milk that day

Skim milk to minimize fat intake post workout with a good ISO protein



See how it goes think it won't be that bad besides wicked pumps

I have a free day plus I got a gym key so it's all good

Tv in break room I'm golden

stackin you still on for the challenge? im doing it likely this saturday or if not some time in the next month or so.
 
Funny ya bring it up was gonna do it May 2nd but gonna push it back a bit wanna wait till I'm in the middle of my cycle just started some deca that the doctor prescribed me and had to stop the npp to get that script

Bloods were a bit outta line so dr said he would rather me run good Pharma stuff he just does not know ima run double of what he prescribed!!!

I will be doing it though bet that just gonna coordinate with my buddies a day we all will be working at the gym

We have a huge Wharhouse gym and we need to get on it quick cuz summer time in tx is no joke 8 hrs in the dungeon will kill ya !!💪


Log ur lift dude and put up some pics
 
Funny ya bring it up was gonna do it May 2nd but gonna push it back a bit wanna wait till I'm in the middle of my cycle just started some deca that the doctor prescribed me and had to stop the npp to get that script

Bloods were a bit outta line so dr said he would rather me run good Pharma stuff he just does not know ima run double of what he prescribed!!!

I will be doing it though bet that just gonna coordinate with my buddies a day we all will be working at the gym

We have a huge Wharhouse gym and we need to get on it quick cuz summer time in tx is no joke 8 hrs in the dungeon will kill ya !!💪


Log ur lift dude and put up some pics

haha, your doctors a legend! i think i will push it back from this saturday to about 4 weeks time, sleep has been shitty and im a little sick so i will wait till im fresh. plus theres no way im taking 2 days off before and after! quads the day before and hams the day after is probs what i will do. btw going back for bloods tomorrow too.
 
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