GW501516...post your experience (SARMS1)

[dylangemelli]

Re: GW501516...post your experience

Hey guys, I've been running GW at 10mg/day for the past 2 weeks. My endurance is definitely up, I am able to keep going and going, and then take a short break, and never feel exhausted. It's awesome!

However, my main concerns lie with the PPAR delta agonism. I have read dozens of studies on the promotion of colorectal cancer growth due to the agonism. HOWEVER! the studies done with mice were genetically mutated to lack the APC gene, which in turn gives them FAP (a disorder where hundreds of colon polyps are caused to grow and has almost a 100% cancer risk).

To my understanding... the 501516 doubled the amount of already abnormal polyps due to the FAP disorder which affects about 1 in 7-22k people. Therefore, is it safe to say, that in human individuals WITHOUT the FAP disorder, should not have any issues with the minute dosages compared to the mice studies?

Also, the mice studies were run for 2 years as opposed to 2-8 week intervals. I am basically just trying to alleviated my own concerns and others'. Of course, if a person has a known hereditary disposition to FAP (it is dominant), then I would NOT even come near this drug! Because it was proven to potentiate the development of polyps.

All-in-all, GW is fantastic aside from the potential side affects; however, the side affects were so strongly displayed in the mice due to the abnormality in the genome. Somebody please correct me if any of my logic is incorrect, I just want to do the healthiest thing possible. And for those reasons, I will try to find out if my father has polyp issues and limit my runs to 2-3 weeks at a time.

best regards and appreciation
NOT TRYIGN TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE! I just havent seen these connections made previously.

seriously guys, this topic does not need to be gone over everyday does it? i spent all this time writing articles and making videos to fully educate everyone on things like this... it never fails that the same questions continuously comes up when all the information is just sitting here... its pretty frustrating...

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[pizzikingo]

Re: GW501516...post your experience

seriously guys, this topic does not need to be gone over everyday does it? i spent all this time writing articles and making videos to fully educate everyone on things like this... it never fails that the same questions continuously comes up when all the information is just sitting here... its pretty frustrating...

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We appreciate your commitment, Dylan. You explained the effects and side effects of GW very well (and also the SARMs). But the big unknown factor is the point with cancer potential. For example: the tumors of mice can't be transferred to humans. But nobody knows that - neither the scientists. The point is: until there is no study that confirms that probability of cancer in mice can't be compared with humans nobody knows the real bio-chemical process in our body.
The topic will be always descussed: it's the anxiety/fear of the unknown. There are a lot of products which have similary effects like GW. Not that strong and probably not that safe, but you KNOW the side effects and you can plan and react if you must.
Taking GW is like Russian Roullete: the next diagnosis can be multi organ cancer or you will live another 40 years.
I red a lot of studies and i know: the mice took 5-40mg per kg for nearly two years. But what if a human takes 5-20mg per day? What it the individual cancer risk rise uf at 17%? And what if you ARE in these 17%?
I hope there will be further studies made the next time. GW has incredible interesting effects which has enourmous potential. Until then, everybod should make his/her own deciso.

 

[jamierowe]

Re: GW501516...post your experience

Does anyone have a link or testimonial of someone who lost more than 30lbs on GW 501516? I can't find anything on the net.


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[Jbranken]

Re: GW501516...post your experience

Does anyone have a link or testimonial of someone who lost more than 30lbs on GW 501516? I can't find anything on the net.


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Here's the thing, you won't find it. If you have 30+ lbs to lose, this enhancement drug isn't for you. Diet/cardio is the first step. It's designed to help conditioned athletes reach above and beyond normal conditioning. An aid in getting from 10% bodyfat to 7-8% can be very beneficial. Fat loss is a secondary benefit honestly. GW increases your endurance. This is why you may not find what you're looking for...

Now, if you're already doing tedious cardio and/or weight lifting every day and puting in the effort, GW may have potential to help you. Not saying you can't lose significant weight on it because you can, but only of you're puting forth the effort. Diet and cardio are really going to dictate the end result, GW is just the icing on the cake

 

[jamierowe]

Re: GW501516...post your experience

Thanks,man! Appreciate the response. Diet/cardio is indeed happening. Just hope to find someone else who has been through it with more than 10lbs to lose.



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[liffalot]

Re: GW501516...post your experience

We appreciate your commitment, Dylan. You explained the effects and side effects of GW very well (and also the SARMs). But the big unknown factor is the point with cancer potential. For example: the tumors of mice can't be transferred to humans. But nobody knows that - neither the scientists. The point is: until there is no study that confirms that probability of cancer in mice can't be compared with humans nobody knows the real bio-chemical process in our body.
The topic will be always descussed: it's the anxiety/fear of the unknown. There are a lot of products which have similary effects like GW. Not that strong and probably not that safe, but you KNOW the side effects and you can plan and react if you must.
Taking GW is like Russian Roullete: the next diagnosis can be multi organ cancer or you will live another 40 years.
I red a lot of studies and i know: the mice took 5-40mg per kg for nearly two years. But what if a human takes 5-20mg per day? What it the individual cancer risk rise uf at 17%? And what if you ARE in these 17%?
I hope there will be further studies made the next time. GW has incredible interesting effects which has enourmous potential. Until then, everybod should make his/her own deciso.

You're completely missing the point. The point is that you don't have to see studies if you use your brain. The dose that they used on mice is equal to a 200 lb male using something like 2000mg per day for over a year. Of course its going to give them fucking cancer.

 

[hurricane]

Re: GW501516...post your experience

if the question is do you have to be a certain bodyfat to benefit from gw the answer is no.With the added cardio endurance and ability to shift carb/protein burn to fat, it will benefit you at any bf% percentage, if it used correctly.

of course with a terrible diet and no training, dont expect much change.The harder you work, and the better you diet,the gw will benefit you even more and aid the process of body comp.

 

[liffalot]

Re: GW501516...post your experience

Here's the thing, you won't find it. If you have 30+ lbs to lose, this enhancement drug isn't for you. Diet/cardio is the first step. It's designed to help conditioned athletes reach above and beyond normal conditioning. An aid in getting from 10% bodyfat to 7-8% can be very beneficial. Fat loss is a secondary benefit honestly. GW increases your endurance. This is why you may not find what you're looking for...

Now, if you're already doing tedious cardio and/or weight lifting every day and puting in the effort, GW may have potential to help you. Not saying you can't lose significant weight on it because you can, but only of you're puting forth the effort. Diet and cardio are really going to dictate the end result, GW is just the icing on the cake

While that's true and I absolutely support GW being used in this way, it is also being researched as a potential aid in lessening obesity. So like you said, while it is certainly geared for elite athletes to break plateaus, fattys can use it with some nice effects too so long as they're working hard.

I must add that Sarms1's GW is above and beyond any I've ever used before, and trust me, I've been around the market. So if you're looking for a good, affordable carrier, then SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators is your place

 

[WolfpackAlpha]

Re: GW501516...post your experience

seriously guys, this topic does not need to be gone over everyday does it? i spent all this time writing articles and making videos to fully educate everyone on things like this... it never fails that the same questions continuously comes up when all the information is just sitting here... its pretty frustrating...

READ AND WATCH THE VIDEO

GW-510516 Part 3 - YouTube

Great video, it's a 4 part course.

GW-501516 - YouTube
GW-501516 Part 2 - YouTube
GW-510516 Part 3 - YouTube
GW-501516 Part 4 - YouTube

 

[dylangemelli]

Re: GW501516...post your experience

Great video, it's a 4 part course.

GW-501516 - YouTube
GW-501516 Part 2 - YouTube
GW-510516 Part 3 - YouTube
GW-501516 Part 4 - YouTube

More people need to watch these before posting certain questions... I took a lot of extra time to get the proper information out there for everyone... GW is amazing and should be used and incorporated in every cycle...