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Bare with me here. I'm on my cell but I have to write this now before I forget. I was reading this life extension magazine that came with some vitamins I ordered and this ad came up. Now it is directed towards older people but..I'm still very new to this side of the fitness house so let's talk about CoQ10, shilajit and ppq. So everyone and there mom knows your mitochondria is what produces ATP and cells die all the time. If I remember bio101 correctly 7 years is cell life?? Anyway this is almost exactly the ad I read below..

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Life Extension® continues to develop increasingly potent mitochondria-boosting formulations.1-4 The new Super Ubiquinol CoQ10 with BioPQQ® contains shilajit (which studies have shown doubles CoQ10 levels in the mitochondria) plus the breakthrough compound PQQ (shown to support the spontaneous generation of new mitochondria in aging cells). This represents a three-way strategy for enhanced mitochondrial support.

1. Super Ubiquinol CoQ10

CoQ10 is required to convert the energy from fats and sugars you eat into usable cellular energy. More people are supplementing with CoQ10 than ever before. A key reason is increased awareness that the body’s production of CoQ10 declines significantly with advancing age.5 Statin drugs also deplete CoQ10 levels in the blood, and possibly, tissues.6,7 For example, statin drugs reduce plasma CoQ10 by almost 40%—but the aging process itself reduces CoQ10 levels in the heart muscle wall by 72%.8

Studies show that absorption of the ubiquinol form of CoQ10 is far greater than the conventional ubiquinone form. In middle-aged mice, ubiquinol was shown to be 40% more effective in slowing measurements of aging, compared to ubiquinone.9 Life Extension® offers this highly bioavailable ubiquinol form of patented CoQ10 in an advanced delivery system, providing an unparalleled absorption level.10

2. Enhanced Support with Shilajit

PrimaVie® shilajit has been shown to double levels of CoQ10 in mitochondria.11 Combining CoQ10 and shilajit produced a 56% increase in energy production in the brain—40% better than CoQ10 alone. And in muscle, there was a 144% increase in energy production—27% better than CoQ10 alone.12

Shilajit boosts CoQ10’s beneficial effects by stabilizing CoQ10 in the superior ubiquinol form.13,14 Additionally, shilajit facilitates more efficient delivery of CoQ10 into the mitochondria, which results in greater cellular energy production.15-18 Shilajit itself is rich in essential compounds that help the mitochondria convert fats and sugars into ATP (adenosine triphosphate), the body’s main source of energy.16

3. PQQ Promotes Growth of New Mitochondria

Until recently, the only options for aging individuals to promote replenishment of the declining numbers of mitochondria in their bodies were long-term calorie restriction or exhaustive physical activity—difficult or impractical for most aging people. Now PQQ offers a viable alternative: PQQ (pyrroloquinoline quinone) promotes spontaneous production of new mitochondria.19 In fact, PQQ promotes youthful cellular function in three distinct ways:

Promotes mitochondrial biogenesis. PQQ activates genes that promote the formation of fresh mitochondria.19 It also beneficially interacts with genes directly involved in mitochondrial health. These same genes support healthy body weight, normal fat and sugar metabolism and youthful cellular proliferation.20
Mitochondrial defense. Mitochondria possess their own DNA, distinct from those contained in the cell nucleus. Unfortunately, compared to nuclear DNA, mitochondrial DNA are relatively unprotected—and yet situated at the source of both energy and free-radical production. PQQ’s antioxidant potency and favorable gene-expression profile powerfully boost mitochondrial defense.
Antioxidant power. PQQ is a potent antioxidant. Its extraordinary molecular stability enables it to facilitate thousands of antioxidant reactions in the mitochondria—without breaking down—for maximum antioxidant and bioenergetic support.21
PQQ is an essential nutrient, meaning that your body cannot make it on its own. A wealth of research demonstrates that—alone and especially in combination with CoQ10—its unique nutritional profile supports heart health and brain function.22-24 This should be no surprise, given how much energy these vital organs need.

Life Extension® has identified a purified, highly potent form of PQQ from Japan that is produced through a unique fermentation process. The result is some of the highest quality PQQ available today.

The optimal dose of PQQ is 20 mg each day. Members taking Mitochondrial Energy Optimizer, Mitochondrial Basics, or PQQ 10 mg caps obtain this optimal PQQ dose when taking the new Super Ubiquinol CoQ10 with PQQ.

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Shilajit doubles CoQ10 levels...
Ppq spontaneous generation of mitochondria
56% increase in energy in the brain
144% increase in muscle energy production


Now I'm sure a lot of that is advertisement bull s&&@...how viable is this information? Do people take coq10 even young? Is this a well known product and i am just super rookie ha?
I'm all about taking this with gw. Where's the lab geeks at? Seems pretty cheap for more ATP production.


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CoQ10 and electron transport chain
CoQ10 is fat-soluble and is therefore mobile in cellular membranes; it plays a unique role in the electron transport chain (ETC). In the inner mitochondrial membrane, electrons from NADH and succinate pass through the ETC to oxygen, which is reduced to water. The transfer of electrons through ETC results in the pumping of H+ across the membrane creating a proton gradient across the membrane, which is used by ATP synthase (located on the membrane) to generate ATP. CoQ10 functions as an electron carrier from enzyme complex I and enzyme complex II to complex III in this process. This is crucial in the process, since no other molecule can perform this function (Note: recent research now establishes that Vitamin K2 co-performs this role with CoQ10[10]). Thus, CoQ10 functions in every cell of the body to synthesize energy.

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Should I be buying hundreds of bottles of this stuff?
 
If I remember bio101 correctly 7 years is cell life??
Different cells have differnt rates of apoptosis. Some cells, like those in the tendons/ligaments have a cellular turnover rate of 300-500 days, thats one reason healing is so slow. Other cells are replaced much much faster.


Ive tried it before with no noticeable benefit and for the price chose to supplement with a different brand of straight up CoQ10.
 
Sounds like trolling and spamming to me


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Different cells have differnt rates of apoptosis. Some cells, like those in the tendons/ligaments have a cellular turnover rate of 300-500 days, thats one reason healing is so slow. Other cells are replaced much much faster.


Ive tried it before with no noticeable benefit and for the price chose to supplement with a different brand of straight up CoQ10.

You always have all the answers. All those joint supps came in today too hopefully they get to work quick.
 
Ubiquinol will help increase the level of glutathione which I believe is a strong antioxidant. The good thing is that your body will only absorb what it needs and dispose of the rest. The one thing I was not aware of is that ubiquinol is also lipid-soluble which means it has to be taken with some sort of EFA or healthy fat. I've been taking 300 mg/day and I can't say I've noticed anything spectacular but I also try to eat fairly healthy and take lots of supps like krill oil, astaxanthin, ginger, beta alanine and creatine so any one of those could be helping too.
 
I'm telling you guys you can consolidate things with medivin from mr supps. the stuff has it all in 1. I speak highly of the stuff cause I never used to use multi's but this stuff really makes a difference in my overall health

Very good stuff


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Medivin noted*
What about these claims of more energy production in brain and muscle? Is it just a crock? Wonder how long you would have to be on it to notice the effects if any.
 
Medivin noted*
What about these claims of more energy production in brain and muscle? Is it just a crock? Wonder how long you would have to be on it to notice the effects if any.

The OP isnt trolling Wootoom, he has a GW log going in plat, hes just trying to learn more. Maybe this thread would be better of in a supp forum though.

LEF in general has some solid products and does some really good research but their research is also often targeted at the aging population..

PPQ claims to do what only fasting or intense exercise does. Well, most people here do exercise intensely so the effects of PPQ itself are likely lessened or not felt by members of this community.

The body makes CoQ10 and a little extra supplemented is a good idea but as I mentioned above this product is a pretty costly source.

For any nutritional study its important to look at the data as well as the case studies. What is an item claiming to do and what kind of data does it provide for in vitro and in vito?

I have no doubt the LEF claims of PPQ's exploits are legit and can all be proven in vito but whats more important is how powerful and effective they are invito.

A person lacking in general antioxidant uptake is going to in essence benefit from any antioxidant. Who were the test subjects of the studies and where they likely lacking in antioxidants in the first place and what were the measurable benefits of taking the PPQ and AT WHAT DOSE?.

The magic in any nutrient is its affinity to specific tissue and its ability to donate electrons.

The biggest problem people face when consuming antioxidants is they simply dont consume enough or at least enough to feel anything and this is because we have have groups like the FDA putting the fear of god in everyone who manufactures and supports supplement use.

Before you go out and start taking 100x the RDA for a given antioxidant however there are some important things to consider. Anything that donates an electron is an antioxidant so therefor basically all needed nutrients are antioxidants.

Some nutrients are in essence nontoxic while others we need to make sure to not get too much or too little of.

Ascorbic acid is an extremely powerful antioxidant as I am sure we have all heard but it has its shortcomings. Orally only about 20% is absorbed and it has a short half life so needs to be consumed multiple times a day for best benefit. The good news is its cheap and easy to find. The problem is the FDA has us snowed into thinking 60mg is all we need and it is all we need to fend of acute scurvy but that dose does not fend of coronary artery and heart disease and why its the number one killer today.

Gltathione is the king of antioxidents but oral consumption (in non liposomal form) of it is imposes a big energy tax on the body before it can be used. Its triple peptide that gets broken down in the gut and then needs to be reassembled for use and there are like 5 steps for the body to do so. Liposomal encapsulated GSH doesnt get broken down and merges right with the cell but true lipo GSH is damn expensive (like $90 a month supply for a low dose). A cheaper albeit less effective way to get GSH is give your body the building blocks in adequate quantities so it can produce its own.

On a side note, when the bodies normal means of dealing with toxins cant handle the demand, the body creates more fat to store the toxins. If someone is having a hard time losing fat and they are doing all the right thing they may have a toxicty issue. Cranking up vit C (in ascorbic acid form) and salt flushes can greatly aid the body in eliminating toxins.
 
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i believe this man just dropped some knowledge... nice post!
 
I'm telling you guys you can consolidate things with medivin from mr supps. the stuff has it all in 1. I speak highly of the stuff cause I never used to use multi's but this stuff really makes a difference in my overall health

I'm quite partial to Multi-Life no iron multivitamins...high quality ingredients and great price point
 
Medivin noted*
What about these claims of more energy production in brain and muscle? Is it just a crock? Wonder how long you would have to be on it to notice the effects if any.

well i can speak from experience you will feel a difference within a few days.. and when you stop taking it lets say after a month you will notice a difference after a few days.

my only issue with medivin is if you take them all at once on a partial stomach they make me feel naseuous a bit. so you should split them up and make sure you take them on a full stomach with a meal and water.
 
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