Test, EQ, NPP, Tren, Superdrol

[NegroPops]

Won't be starting until the beginning of October, but I plan on doing weekly logs for here, and myself.

I thought about the mixing of short and long esters. I remember back in the day.. 4-5 years ago. A guy at my gym, and now good friend of mine told me the best cycles mix both short and long esters. This is purely bro-science, but that little quote has stuck with me. Also, the guy is huge and shredded and has his fair share of bodybuilding credentials, so that makes his bro-science more credible. The one time I used DECA, I put on a great deal of size, but I got bloated especially in my face. So that made me stay away from Nandralone until now.. which I hear NPP is SUPPOSE to give you those same gains, but without the bloat.. so I am going to give that a go. And on top of all of that, pinning doesn't bother me at all. In 8th grade, I job shadowed a doctor and watched him give a few shots.. so that pretty much makes me an expert.

As of right now, I plan on pinning 1 cc of EQ (200 mg) with the 1 cc of NPP (100 mg) EOD.. and then pin the 1 cc of Sust (250 mg) once per week, on either Sunday or Monday, whichever day the pinning matches up. Then when it is time for Tren to get off the bench and into the game, I will just switch it for the NPP.

I thought about including IGF into my PCT and then bridging with it shorty after, but I am still kind of unclear of how to run it.

 

[joeblow12345]

Won't be starting until the beginning of October, but I plan on doing weekly logs for here, and myself.

I thought about the mixing of short and long esters. I remember back in the day.. 4-5 years ago. A guy at my gym, and now good friend of mine told me the best cycles mix both short and long esters. This is purely bro-science, but that little quote has stuck with me. Also, the guy is huge and shredded and has his fair share of bodybuilding credentials, so that makes his bro-science more credible. The one time I used DECA, I put on a great deal of size, but I got bloated especially in my face. So that made me stay away from Nandralone until now.. which I hear NPP is SUPPOSE to give you those same gains, but without the bloat.. so I am going to give that a go. And on top of all of that, pinning doesn't bother me at all. In 8th grade, I job shadowed a doctor and watched him give a few shots.. so that pretty much makes me an expert.

As of right now, I plan on pinning 1 cc of EQ (200 mg) with the 1 cc of NPP (100 mg) EOD.. and then pin the 1 cc of Sust (250 mg) once per week, on either Sunday or Monday, whichever day the pinning matches up. Then when it is time for Tren to get off the bench and into the game, I will just switch it for the NPP.

I thought about including IGF into my PCT and then bridging with it shorty after, but I am still kind of unclear of how to run it.

If you don't mind pinning then go for it. But I prefer to only pin 1-2 times a week myself. I don't bloat from decca really at all. When I stack it with tren there is no bloat for me. I highly recommend stacking nandrolones together if you can handle it. Whether short or long esters the results are phenomenal. Eq is one of those drugs that if you have it use it, if not fuck it. Mast is a better choice for hardening IMO, and the decca and tren will have your appetite through the roof. Since you have until October I recommend experimenting with igf. I feel it is a great tool to use in recovery and on a bridge.

 

[ceo]

I already eat an "anabolic diet", and cycle carbs throughout the week normally. My goal with this cycle is to put on a GREAT DEAL OF MASS AND STRENGTH, not RECOMP. Therefore I will be eating big everyday. Yes, I will put on some fat aswell, but that is expected when you are bulking. Also, my lifting sessions are intense.. but, I will have no part of any HIIT training, especially high intensity cardio. I pick heavy things up, and I put them down.. i let my diet dictate the amount of fat I gain or lose. If I feel I am getting a bit to chubby.. then I will simply adjust my diet. If there is a need for cardio, then I will walk slowly up and inclinded treadmill... NOT SPRINT.

I will say that yes, there are a lot of compounds going on with this cycle.. but in no way do I see it as overkill.. I will be also running all the support supps I need. There has been a lot of talk about running low dose test and higher doses of other compounds during cycles. The logic behind this makes a great deal of sense and I will be giving it a shot. I have ran EQ previously at 600 mg a week and feel that bumping that up to 800 mg would have great benefits, especially with my appetite. If I am going to do anything with the dose, I will start at 600 and ramp it up to 800 as the cycle goes on. I don't see 400 mg a EQ having that great of an effect on me. Every compound I plan to use works well with eachother, as well as for my goals.

And my PCT and CYCLE support will stay how it is. It is spot on.

sounds like you got it all figured out then

 

[NegroPops]

I'd prefer mast over EQ as well, but I don't think mast will have the same benefits when it comes to bulking.

 

[notjake11]

Eq is one of those drugs that if you have it use it, if not fuck it. Mast is a better choice for hardening IMO, and the decca and tren will have your appetite through the roof. .

I very rarely disagree with you Joe but on this one I think you are dead wrong. EQ isn't a hardener at all. It gives nice steady lean gains in mass. Aside from my own experience in the cycle I"m running with it now there are multple other highly respected members running it that are having similar experiences.

 

[digit0x]

I will be following your log bro. I love NPP. I don't bloat at all on. Makes me eat big and grows those hard to reach muscles. Virtually no sides at 400mg/week not even using prolactin control.

 

[meathead96]

Yes, I will be running caber and armidex from the beginning, each .5 mg twice of week. Also will be running 50 mg of proviron through the cycle.

Diet is pretty simple, nothing out of the ordinary. Chicken, Fish, Steak, and Whey will be my primary protein sources. Carbs will come from many fruits and veggies, as well brown rice, oatmeal, and dextrose. Fats from meats, oils, nuts. Will eat really big for breakfast and post workout, and will be cutting carb consumption out as the day goes on. My goal caloric intake for the beginning will be around 4000 calories, per day, and I will ramp that up (hopefully) as the cycle progresses. I don't want to get fat per say.. but I am trying to pack on as much mass as possible so fat gain will inevitably happen. I can't really draw of an exact plan or journal because it changes. This is just the basic diet plan. O yeah, and I foresee quite a few chinese buffets and pizza parties in my future.

Training is 1 body part per day. I hit the gym either after breakfast, or preferable during the middle of the day where I have a few meals under my belt. Reps stay between 8-15, with heavier sets on the compound lifts, 3-4 sets per exercise, 5-6 exercises per muscle group. Usually throw in some drop sets on the finals sets of a few exercises to further break down the muscle and to keep blood flowing. I play basketball a few times a week, besides that I hate doing any type of cardio so I don't see a lot of that being incorporated. Again, it is hard to draw up an exact plan for this because it constantly changes.. but that is the basics.

Very nice, sounds like you got a great plan. Btw I agree with the short esters. It makes perfect sense in your case where your switching from npp to tren to make the most out of each compound and have them kick in and clear faster.

 

[joeblow12345]

I very rarely disagree with you Joe but on this one I think you are dead wrong. EQ isn't a hardener at all. It gives nice steady lean gains in mass. Aside from my own experience in the cycle I"m running with it now there are multple other highly respected members running it that are having similar experiences.

I personally feel decca and tren are superior to eq and tren for bulking. Any time I run tren with anything I get an extreme hardening effect. And I get harder with mast then eq. It comes down to personal preference and IMO the best stack is test, tren, decca, and mast with your orals of choice. Some may prefer eq but I don't care for it. If I have enough laying around I will use it but its not something I prefer.

 

[joeblow12345]

I'd prefer mast over EQ as well, but I don't think mast will have the same benefits when it comes to bulking.

That's what the tren and npp or decca is for. 400 mg each of tren and npp is more potent then 800 of eq IMO. The mast will make bloat almost non existent.

 

[NegroPops]

so.. should I add some mast in?