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who is that guy, i love him lol
Friendandfellowathlete
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Subaru Legacy?
C0LUMB0
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Friendandfellowathlete
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we got a live one here, where's my fuckin tar mop when i need it...
Hey bro!
Lololololololol fuck i'm dying
-Rob
-Rob
lmao
Strongbow
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Have you ever been to Iraq? And if so did you choke some Tallyban bishes in they sleep
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why did ceo close the other thread with a java/cindy fighting warning?
Too much porn I think.
naw, he didn't get the chance. Hard to do much choking in that safety net behind a company of Marines
Can I yut?
uamaverick
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It's only game...why you heff to be mad?
The real cindylou never came back after she said goodbye a few months back.
That account is now just another mitch alter.
javaguru
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I never choked anyone in their sleep...
However, I did drop some hate as a government proxy...Something that I still think about daily.
The most poignant thing I ever saw was Iraqi corpses decapitated by DPICM that were waving a white flag. We fired on every position we occupied. You deflect the horror by making light of it...
billfred
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Serious question. Do you think we will read about you someday in the newspaper taking out a post office or government building? Are you that eaten up with hate?
javaguru
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My hate is controlled. I hate the federal government but I would never initiate violence against another human being, that's the system that created me. I don't hate people, I hate the system that created me.
I think you have some serious issues bro.
I fully enjoyed watching the pink mist settle after waxing a muffucker with the .50
Or watching those fgts take pop shots from windows and then bringing down the whole building with the MK19
I don't lose a wink of sleep over a damn thing other than my baby girl needing a bottle or wanting to be rocked. Fuck the rest.
Stop dwelling
I fully enjoyed watching the pink mist settle after waxing a muffucker with the .50
Or watching those fgts take pop shots from windows and then bringing down the whole building with the MK19
I don't lose a wink of sleep over a damn thing other than my baby girl needing a bottle or wanting to be rocked. Fuck the rest.
Stop dwelling
Agreed. There's a much larger point to that video than just being anti Iraqi war.
billfred
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Seems like you have a few issues yourself.
Its not unreasonable for combat soldiers to have some satisfaction in their work. Especially if it involves terrorists/suicide bombers/Al Queda/Jihadists in general
Why is that bill? Because I'm not dwelling on war on a daily basis?
Shit has been happening since the dawn of time. You mean to tell me every man who has ever been in a war and doesn't come out the other side as a broken, sorrowful soul full of regret, has issues?
I didn't say it didn't change me. Hell, how could it not? I killed my first person, a full grown man who probably had a family, when I was an 18 year old kid.
But I realized that day that I could have been the one who got smeared in the dirt and never breathed again. THAT is war. Kill or be killed, it isn't a pretty thing, and it's not always glory an valor like hollywood would have you believe. Shit happens.
Then you move on and live your life.
Shit has been happening since the dawn of time. You mean to tell me every man who has ever been in a war and doesn't come out the other side as a broken, sorrowful soul full of regret, has issues?
I didn't say it didn't change me. Hell, how could it not? I killed my first person, a full grown man who probably had a family, when I was an 18 year old kid.
But I realized that day that I could have been the one who got smeared in the dirt and never breathed again. THAT is war. Kill or be killed, it isn't a pretty thing, and it's not always glory an valor like hollywood would have you believe. Shit happens.
Then you move on and live your life.
javaguru
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I thought the same thing until my History of Warfare professor recounted his journey through ptsd. He was also my adviser and told me every time I saw him that I reminded him of his crew chief. It didn't click until I saw the Heroes Under Fire episode on the history channel.
I'm sure ptsd sucks but it's pretty evident by your posts here that you have problem with harping on the past. move past melody. move past your service. move past cindy and mitch. it's all over. make a new life.
Have you ever sought ptsd therapy? You are thinking into it far too much.
It is war. War sucks.
The end.
It is war. War sucks.
The end.
What a load of shit. You are so full of shit it spews out of your mouth. Oh the things I have seen, the things I have done, please have pity on me, we don’t have pity for you we don’t give 2 shits about you. The sooner you are perma-bant the sooner we can enjoy ourselves without your worthless rants about nothing.
This absolutely
You don't see me posting constantly about my past mistakes or my high school or college girlfriends or my service
You don't see zwhit posting about that dark time in his life where he sold his b-hole for meth money
You gotta move on.
Zwit, just making this clear that above post was partially a joke bro. We all know I have never made mistakes.
idk, zwhit did cry to me once about that dark time in his life
I dont think he's moved on bro
I dont think he's moved on bro
Well he doesn't dwell on it daily and whine about it
He's building a better life now, and he's using the cream pretty consistently these days. Hasn't had a flare up in weeks
He's building a better life now, and he's using the cream pretty consistently these days. Hasn't had a flare up in weeks
omglol!!!!!!!
javaguru
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I don't ask for pity...I just ask that you really examine your life. Fuck pity and emotion...I have to live in a world where unaddressed damage creates the system.
exactly. only time I think about that is when I sit on the toilet. no more. no less
We're here for you Z
Proud of your progress bro
Proud of your progress bro
Strongbow
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You know I have had some issues living with the things I had to do there but I came to grips with the fact that I done my job and my job saved more lives than I took and in the end thats all that matters. Killing is the job Marines do. Ive said this before and I will say it one more time for you if you think shooting people from afar is hard to live with try it up close and real personal hats where its at. Unless you have looked into the eyes of some poor soul you have sent on dont give me any shit about making lite of the situation it comes down to being a superior solider and God blesses me with the superior ability to impress my will onto others by any means necessary. I embrace the fact that at one point in my life I was a highly trained killing machine and that is why we live the way we do in this country. You need to grow up and move on its called being a man. The circle of life includes war and death. Its not pretty but it is necessary. You have the ability to be a good bro just let the shit go and move on with your life.
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javaguru
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I wish that I could be free...
I love this song...
Unfortunately, we all live quiet desperate lives.
Yes.
It did me a lot of good, and I'd be very proud of him for being a man.
I'd spank his ass though if he got on EF afterwards and turned into a whiney bitch
I dont want any of my children enlisting ever....I would be proud of them if they went OFC tho
javaguru
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I suspect you're equating outcome with experience. Anything you learned in service was already there.We just justify things.
For example, soldiers love children...we saved up MRE packets to give to the kids....we didn't get our compassion for children from the army.
Strongbow
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You can be free if you choose to be. I do not make lite of your mind set because it is not a good one. I feel for you and hope you can get past your troubles. The only way to get past it is to deal with it and move on. Pouring yourself in a bottle or sharing your troubles on a web site full of people who do not know what you have endured is not the way to move past it. This is a place people come to sling shit and have fun, usually at each others expense, you will not get the dialouge you need on EF. I hope you realize your mind set is not healthy and in the end you will waste away or do something really stupid and jsutify peoples impression that you were waek minded and with a very breakable will. Adjust yourself before it is too late. You're an intelligent dude, you need intervention. Living in the past will lead you no where bro. I say this as somebody who has been where you are. I've been a very angry violent indivdual for a good deal of my life. you need people in your life and things to wrap your mind around, instead of war and goverment. Do not let yourself be consumed by things you can not change. Embrace the things you can make a diffrence in and move forward, or die lonely and pissed off at a world that doesn't know you even exsist.
The past 5 generations of my family have been Marines with the exception of my grandpa's dad, who was an Army full bird
javaguru
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I ain't gonna fight you on the issue brother. We all have our own experiences but we need to unite and not just consider it just another male right of passage. We were intentionally damaged by a system that treats males as disposable.
I learned my compassion for children from an old football coach I had at Penn State. He was a good bro
javaguru
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I'm sorry...
Strongbow
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Long history of Marine officers in my family. My dad was Colonel and took a Company job before he was promoted to General. Tough mutha fucker. He told me early on if I joined that I would be Recon or nothing. We were the only Recom Marines in the family, but it was Recon or bust for me.
javaguru
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My father enlisted in the navy shortly after Pearl Harbor to spite my grandfather and got fucked by serving as a corpsman at Iwo Jima. All the brothers enlisted in the Army except for my father, he was making a point. The navy started the revolution that ended Germany in WWI. The most ironic part is that my father cred for my granparents until their dying day. His brothers survived the 101st and 82nd...We're fucking idiots that volunteer for state service.
My dad fought in WWII, in the South Pacific Theater. He told his kids to avoid going into the military. It wasn't all glorious for him by any means. They would go for weeks without food drops. Once they had to steal pineapples from a local grower because there was no food. He never ate pineapple again.
I'm not so sure he felt particularly "righteous" either. He had nightmares every night for the next 64 years, right up until he died. Though I'm sure the nightmares started very shortly after the war began. He was part of the cleanup crew at Pearl. They were at sea when Pearl was attacked. When they got the news they had to go back into port and black the ship out before heading to Pearl. They arrived a few weeks after the attack. He was Army Corps of Engineers. They cleaned up and rebuilt the mess. He saw most of the islands. He never wanted to go back. He saw plenty of death on both sides. Up close and personal. Nobody heard those stories until he opened up to a nurse, and a little bit to my mom just a few days before he died.
I don't think he found killing "Japs" righteous. Pretty sure he saw nothing glorious in war. I wish he was still alive. I miss him.
you're confusing glorious with righteous
I think it might of been the last war that had a legit excuse
I think it might of been the last war that had a legit excuse
Friendandfellowathlete
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buncha old ass mofo's in here
billfred
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Sounds like your Dad has as much problem letting go of things as you did.
Not sure what the Sledge VDO had to do with why he would not receive a japanese business man.
javaguru
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When someone cuts off the genitals of your friends to send a message it tends to leave an impression...
You just might hate that group...
billfred
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I had dinner with a man who had both parents incinerated in Hiroshima. Was as nice and cordial as anyone I ever met.
I realize it is not easy, but people do move on.
javaguru
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people move on via justifying their crimes...It's hard to be a mass murderer with a conscience.
You understand that sticking a knife in someone's ribs is different than dropping a bomb?
That's why the Obama drone program is an issue...
I'm not confused.
While that war was justified, my point was that he and many others didn't see anything righteous about what they had to do or endure.
They didn't go on a 6 or 9 month tour and then come back for a year to have R&R with their families. He was gone, sleeping in tents in the mud or worse for almost 4 years straight.
He couldn't wait to get out. When they were lined up and the officer(s) said whoever wants to re-up, step forward...nobody stepped forward that time. Can't blame them.
You ever watch those documentaries? Those old dudes are not sitting back laughing about all the people they shot or killed, recalling fondly about blood spraying. They almost always break down. For some of them it's the first time they've talked about it.
Maybe you're confused?
I never said it was glorious....
and given that you actually know me...and I had assumed knew my POV on war in general...I'm surprised you're picking out what I said to take out of context.
and I did more then watch documentaries you ass basket...I've talked to more than a handful of vets first hand
and given that you actually know me...and I had assumed knew my POV on war in general...I'm surprised you're picking out what I said to take out of context.
and I did more then watch documentaries you ass basket...I've talked to more than a handful of vets first hand
but then maybe I never did tell you why I enlisted
OH and those 6-9 month tours...yeah...they didnt even have those for the army in 04-05 so shit in your fucking hat
Nothing has changed about war in 10,000 years excepts for technology and weaponry.
Pearl Harbor started WWII, 9/11 started the Afghanistan War. Same concepts.
Only thing different is I rode around in a humvee turrett blowing off hundreds of rounds per minute through a fully automatic rocket propelled grenade launcher, and the men of the past wars walked on foot and used much less effective weapon systems, resulting in more deaths to both sides.
The honorable/righteous argument is no different, and doesn't matter anyway since that's all a matter of perspective.
The kamikaze planes in Pearl Harbor and the kamikaze pilots of 9/11 all thought, in their culture, they we making the ultimate righteous sacrifice and dying honorably.
We tend to disagree with both groups.
Pearl Harbor started WWII, 9/11 started the Afghanistan War. Same concepts.
Only thing different is I rode around in a humvee turrett blowing off hundreds of rounds per minute through a fully automatic rocket propelled grenade launcher, and the men of the past wars walked on foot and used much less effective weapon systems, resulting in more deaths to both sides.
The honorable/righteous argument is no different, and doesn't matter anyway since that's all a matter of perspective.
The kamikaze planes in Pearl Harbor and the kamikaze pilots of 9/11 all thought, in their culture, they we making the ultimate righteous sacrifice and dying honorably.
We tend to disagree with both groups.
That I can agree with
dude...I waited until like 8 pgs deep to even mentioned I fucking served....eat a bowl of cocks dickface
but I absolutely love when someone wants to "tell everyone how it is" because their grammpy served some 70 fuckin yrs ago
I added the glorious part, not really in reference to your post though. Notice I stuck to righteous in my last post?
War? What is it good for?
If by righteous you meant justified, then yes. I said that too.
I lived with a vet...first hand. I actually lived with several for a short period of time. I was very young but I do remember talking (mostly listening) to them. Funny thing, most didn't recant their happy times killing other men. Shocking!
Hey, thanks for keeping it clean though and not resorting to name calling. Good times. You mad?
ya Im mad as fuck bro
pacing
pacing
and I did more than live with a vet...jus sayin
Sorry. 12 month tours then? My bad bro.
Daddy, not grampy. My grandparents were all dead before I was even born.
You need a tissue?
Cuz my dad didn't.
get back to me when you last two weeks
what? you married one? Also served?
Was he a WWII Vet? Because I started talking about WWII Vets, which you referenced and somehow you brought it about full circle and made it all about you.
and let me reiterate...given that you know me and know what my MOS was...I'm pretty sure its not too hard to figure out my stance on the matter
you wanna be pissy at someone...go blow BBT up..hes the one happy with blood spray mist and shit
you wanna be pissy at someone...go blow BBT up..hes the one happy with blood spray mist and shit
see my last post.
You got all off track and made this about you. Took it too personal...again. Like you do. Calm the fuck down.
Thank you for your service by the way. I appreciate that and I appreciate you. I have respect for you even when you are acting like a complete cunt to me. I still love ya Shirlene.
Thats what I did...I made it all about me....
I'm the only one I can speak for
Java isn't pumped about his service, BBT is...SD really isn't talkin about it
Jack hasn't gotten in here to say shit...I reference WWII having a whole lot more of a righteous thing behind it then say..OIF, operation iraqi freedome? how does that relate to the twin towers being taken down...please tell me
I'm the only one I can speak for
Java isn't pumped about his service, BBT is...SD really isn't talkin about it
Jack hasn't gotten in here to say shit...I reference WWII having a whole lot more of a righteous thing behind it then say..OIF, operation iraqi freedome? how does that relate to the twin towers being taken down...please tell me
I made references to what both of you had posted in a couple posts. Someone else too...SD maybe?
Easy Shirl. You might wanna check that your var isn't drol or oral tren or something.
Lets get serious, shirlz, women don't serve combat roles
that was so java-esque I actually smiled
Lol @ shirlz taking over a thread with CEO's name in the title and telling him to stfu
Can I memememen?
Can I memememen?
Maybe you should tell me since you brought it current?
I posted about WWII, which had been brought up by SD and you. You got all offended and started slinging shit at me because you took some shit personal. You think I'm taking shots at you? I'm saying that my dad didn't think he was on some kind of righteous mission from god (mission from god implied by me by use of word "righteous"). I also said that he found nothing enjoyable about killing (that's where the glorious part came in). Was it kill or be killed? Hell yes. Always was, always is. Did he do what he had to do? Yep. Am I glad? Hell yes. Am I proud of him? For many reasons I am.
But go ahead, stay mad. Call me more names. Tell me I'm inferior because I never served. Anything else you want to throw at me, go ahead. Tell me again who's blowin up?
I'm done...I apparently memememe-d it
when what I really did was take offense to anyone who hasn't served thinking they have a clue
and you're right...I crossed shit up because I saw red...sue me
when what I really did was take offense to anyone who hasn't served thinking they have a clue
and you're right...I crossed shit up because I saw red...sue me
no
enjoy
enjoy
but not before taking another jab, right?
Ah yeah, there it is.
I know.
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