interesting read on climate change...

[75th]

imo the distrust of politicans and their motives has contributed to this debate

No. Youre challenging the studies of literally thousands of scientists who, across dozens of nations and political affiliations, have all come to the exact same conclusion. This isnt a right/left issue despite what the weekly standard has been telling you. The fact that there may have been some crony capitalism vis a vis Solyndra is a distraction (for the weak minded) from the actual issue at large.

The distrust of science and reality has contributed to this debate.

 

[Headholio]

do you concede their would be political reasons to take the opposite tack? imo the distrust of politicans and their motives has contributed to this debate

Distrust is definitely a big part of the reason that people still think there is a debate. People are being told (by media sources with an agenda to mislead) that those crazy lefties hate progress and want us to go back to the stone age and horses and buggies.

But this issue is not like real right/left political issues. You can discuss a proper tax strategy forever and never get consensus, but for a scientific issue like this, the facts are available for anyone to know if you look at science instead of politics.

 

[wootoom]

half you people dont even know the story behind fracing, you just pin it on another government problem

 

[mrplunkey]

Yep that's my world. Its called reality. Walk towards the light Plunkey. You clearly don't understand governments impact on all sorts of fundamental scientific research, that private industry has no motivation to perform. Government can, has and will continue to reshape our energy usage.

The government steal from the oil companies? You are truly crazy. Exxon made 41 Billion last year and paid 13% tax. And to top it all off, they did it by selling one of this country's natural resources, and degrading our natural environment. Asking for 13 percent cut seems to be an extremely generous deal the American people are giving them.

Exxon 2012:

Revenue: 428.4B
Pre-Tax Income: 78.7B
Taxes: -31.0B
Minority Interest: -2.8B
Net Income: 44.9B

There's your problem right there, You think 31/78.7 = 13%

Psssst... It isn't. It's 39%.

You believe the shit you want to believe.

 

[75th]

Exxon 2012:

Revenue: 428.4B
Pre-Tax Income: 78.7B
Taxes: -31.0B
Minority Interest: -2.8B
Net Income: 44.9B

There's your problem right there, You think 31/78.7 = 13%

Psssst... It isn't. It's 39%.

You believe the shit you want to believe.

I think it was actually closer to 41%.

Then again, the vast majority of that was paid to countries outside the US where it operates.

Exxon paid $1.5 billion in taxes to the US Federal Government.

 

[binö]

No. Youre challenging the studies of literally thousands of scientists who, across dozens of nations and political affiliations, have all come to the exact same conclusion. This isnt a right/left issue despite what the weekly standard has been telling you. The fact that there may have been some crony capitalism vis a vis Solyndra is a distraction for the weak minded) from the actual issue at large.

The distrust of science and reality has contributed to this debate.

i rarely read weekly standard and don't consider myself so stfu

 

[75th]

Eh, if the shoe fits kiddo.

 

[binö]

Eh, if the shoe fits kiddo.

lol at your delusions of granduer on every issue, like RS in a way but more acidic.
fiance, politics, and now climate change, you are the undisupted master of all.
now stfu and stop commenting in my threads please you add nothing but smugness ny or hh give much better opposing intel on the matter

 

[75th]

lol at your delusions of granduer on every issue, like RS in a way but more acidic.
fiance, politics, and now climate change, you are the undisupted master of all.
now stfu and stop commenting in my threads please you add nothing but smugness ny or hh give much better opposing intel on the matter

Not my fault that youre arguing the world is flat. Not sure why umad when folks are trying to come up with solutions. Whats wrong with nuclear power, for instance?

 

[youpissmeoff]

For everyone in this thread that is truly concerned with a man made climate change, how many of you are driving a natural gas vehicle??