I just finished s4 8weeks of .50ml. How long should I wait to start again? And should I up my dosage?
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Hello guys! this is my first post but I ve been following your advices around the forum for a long time.
I've tried osta but before my bottle of 30 ml finished I've ordered another on on SARMSSEARCH but after i paid $175 of product I only got the response that my payment has been accpeted. Didnt get any confirmation of shipping or anything else and it's been already one week since I made my order. Tried to contact them in many ways but so far I got no responde
Do you think I should just be patient and they will contact me or is it unusual?
This is just for research purposes. I wanna run a igf lr3 eventually but I can't find any info about igf cycling. Wat would u suggest?
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hey I'm running the triple sarm stack right now and I wanted to know if it'd be ok to start a test prop cycle after the mini pct or do you think I should wait longer?
Hey guys I plan on running 4 weeks of gw at 10mg to help with my endurance on upcoming cycling season, should i run it longer? And what kind of pct should I do? Appreciate the feedback
run it at least 8 weeks... gw as a standalone does not require any pct but it would be wise to cycle off for at least 4 weeks...
Just a thought - ending 8 week cycle of Osta @ 25mg ED and GW 10mg ED. very happy with results and will soon start PCT for 3 weeks then time off for a period. Is there any issue with running a HGH cycle between SARM cycles in order to Maintain leanness and endurance strength. Would start it about 5 weeks post Sarm and run for about 6 weeks, then run another Osta and GW cycle about a month thereafter. Any thoughts/ suggestions Dylan?
Hey Dylan. I am fairly new to this forum and this is my first post. I have read through most of this thread and I think I have the jist but I want to lay out my rats proposed SARM cycle to make sure. This cycle is basically what you have recommended throughout this thread, with a slight modification. First a little background…
My rat has been training on an off for about 6 years with the last year and a couple of months being consistent as at least 3 days a week, almost every week. My rat has never taken an aas or ph cycle. My goal with this SARM cycle is to increase my rats strength while losing body fat.
Rat Stats:
Age-33
H-6ft
W-210
BF-12%(?)
SARM Cycle:
8 Week Cycle
1-8… osta - 25 mg a day... dosed once a day in the a.m.
1-8… s4 - 50 mg a day... 25 mg split doses... once in the a.m. and once 6 hours later (for at least 2 weeks to assess vision sides. If no sides, increase the total dose 10mg per day but don’t increase dose less than 7 days after last increase. )
1-8… Forma Stanzol - 10 pumps a day... 5 in the a.m. and 5 in the p.m.
1-8… Phytoserms-347 - 2 pills in the a.m.
3 Week PCT
9-11… Unleashed/Post Cycle Combo and bridge (double dose)
I’ve been using Phytoserms-347 as a stand-alone for about 2 months. I have a couple more bottles. I also have a bottle of RS-Transaderm that I haven’t tried. Would you suggest using the RS-Transaderm in my rats SARM cycle?
Assuming my rats diet and training is in order; will the strength gains achieved using SARMs be permanent?
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Thanks for responding so quickly. This is the first time doing anything like this so I want to make sure I'm going to do it right.
Do you have any thoughts about using RS-Transaderm with this SARM cycle?
Ok, thanks Dylan. I really appreciate that you took the time to answer my questions and so quickly at that. After reading a good 75% of this thread, I can also appreciate your dedication and patience to make sure everyone's questions get answered. Thanks again.
that's not even close to enough time to run hgh and is not worth it at all...
Thanks for the input man. Scrap that idea!! Any other suggestions for between Sarm runs for maintaining strength and endurance welcome. Thx once again to Dylan for his invaluable input. Alternately - what would u reckon is optimal timing between SARMs cycles in order to maintain responsiveness to them.
want to double check with you guys.
GW, does it taste flat and the liquid is a bit thick?
I remember well mk and s4 tasted very bitter.
thanks guys..
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thanks guys. just wanna make sure my gw is not contaminated or something..
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thanks guys. just wanna make sure my gw is not contaminated or something..
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I would love to know how GW works. I can't find much info on it.
Yo Dylan!
Got a question about the toxicity of S4: what do you know of any permanent damage to vision and about RNA to DNA conversion thats supposed to lead to these permanent damages (+read somewhere that the metabolite m1 form s4 also binds to the heart)?
If one decides just to take 25mgED of MK-2866 on a cut (20%sub maintenance), will the results be significantly less than if one would combine these two (say 50mg ed of s4)?
Many thanks for your input!!!
there is always a possibility of permanent damage with any anabolic or androgen... I am not going to guarantee you anything... its not likely, and I have not seen reports of it but as I said, I am certainly not going to guarantee it...
you are going to cut a lot more by using s4...
Dylan
I just bought a triple stack.
What dose and whats times would you recommend?
just finished a 8 week SARMS cycle, in week 1 of pct. After the PCT I am going to be doing a Test E cycle. I have enough S4 and Ost left for about 4 weeks. Thoughts on running the SARMS the first 4 weeks of the test E cycle since it takes 4 to 5 weeks for Test E to kick in
Hey Dylan. I’m starting an 8 week osta and s4 cycle today. Just want to check with you before I get too far into my cycle. Since my osta will last 60 days, dosed at 25mg/ed, I broke my cycle down in days instead of weeks.
60 Day Cycle
1-60 Osta 25mg/ed dosed in the a.m.
1-60 S4 50mg/ed dosed 25mg a.m, 25mg 4-6 hours later
1-60 Forma Stanzol 5 pumps a.m., 5 pumps p.m.
30-60 Test Infusion used as directed
21 Day PCT
Unleashed/Post Cycle Combo and Bridge (double dose)
How does set-up this look to you? Any suggestions?
Also, should I be using Forma Stanzol in PCT?
Thanks in advance!
Dylan or anyone,
Whats the shipping times outta Sarmssearch? I thought I read around 3 - 5 days but I can't find the post.
Placed my order yesterday with plans for osta/s4 6 weeker. Pretty damn excited to try it.
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Everything looks good... Just run forma for 8 weeks
Hey Dylan,what would you recommend for a woman that is hard for her to lose weight? I have some GW, S4, Osta, and Albuterol, what dosages and duration would you recommend for her. Is there anything else she should use along side with them.
Thanks Dylan for all your expert advice.
Dylan, thanks for all your advice. I've been following this topic for a while but haven't posted until now. You might want to take a look at this article where WADA warns not to try GW. It may just be hype but thought you might want to know.
theconversation.com/anti-doping-agency-warns-cheats-on-the-health-risks-of-endurobol-12997
I have one more question for my self I'm doing the following cycle for endurance sport,
8w-osta 25 once a day,s4 50 mg 25 mg am 25 mg 4 hours later, GW 20 mg a day, 10 mg in the morning and 10 mg 12 hours later and Albuterol 12-18 mg a day. Should I do any unleash and post cycle therapy? Planning on doing them for 8 weeks. You mention ursolic acid with them just wondering what is ursolic acid for? I'm new to all this and I'm sorry about all the questions.
Dylan, thanks for all your advice. I've been following this topic for a while but haven't posted until now. You might want to take a look at this article where WADA warns not to try GW. It may just be hype but thought you might want to know.
theconversation.com/anti-doping-agency-warns-cheats-on-the-health-risks-of-endurobol-12997
Apparently the original manufacturer found it to "rapidly cause cancer"
newscientist.com/article/mg21729103.400-antidoping-agency-warns-athletes-of-black-market-drug.html
Thank you Dylan for this thread - its been a pleasure going through a couple dozen pages and taking it all in.
I'm 28, 185 lbs, 6' 1" - I'm not into bodybuilding but am into the lean, chiseled look, very similar to the pic you have as your avatar (I assume it's you). I do quite a bit of running - 5-10Ks, half marathons, social events like Color Run and Tough Mudder, and work out 3-4 days a week at my local CrossFit.
I'd like to push myself further and give myself a boost. I've looked into, read reviews/logs of GW+AICAR and GW+Ost, but haven't come across much in regards to combining all three. Maybe this is because some use the 'street' name and others the chem name, so it's a little harder to narrow down. Anyway, is combining all three feasible, is it overkill? Or perhaps for what I'm into, I'm headed in the wrong direction.
As far as dosages for the three, I was looking at:
GW: 10 or 20mg a day
Ost: 25mg/day
AICAR: 10-20mg/day or EOD (I've run across many arguments for ED and EOD)
Would love your thoughts.
Apparently the original manufacturer found it to "rapidly cause cancer"
newscientist.com/article/mg21729103.400-antidoping-agency-warns-athletes-of-black-market-drug.html
This is some scary shit. I'm all for getting big and ripped, but not willing to risk getting cancer for it. I wonder what the other SARMS can cause. Like to see more info on this.
Hey Dylan, what's the preliminary reviews on LGD? Uniquemicals is now out of both S4 and ostarine...So my S4 ostarine GW order is going to be delayed even longer. I'm considering cancelling this order and ordering LGD. What do you think?
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Hey Dylan, what's the preliminary reviews on LGD? Uniquemicals is now out of both S4 and ostarine...So my S4 ostarine GW order is going to be delayed even longer. I'm considering cancelling this order and ordering LGD. What do you think?
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Got some blood work done one week after my triple stack SARMS cycle. Results
HLD- 26
LDL- 209
Total- 262
Never had any problems with high cholesterol.
can SARMS cause high cholesterol
Hey Dylan, what's the preliminary reviews on LGD? Uniquemicals is now out of both S4 and ostarine...So my S4 ostarine GW order is going to be delayed even longer. I'm considering cancelling this order and ordering LGD. What do you think?
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If someone is interested in using Osta purely for the healing benefits, how long can it be run?
I know it's not going to shine when used with AAS, but when used purely for healing, and not for the other benefits, would it still be effective if run with AAS?
^^ what's your reasoning for this, bud..Osta 12.5, gw 20, albuterol 12... Leave out the s4
If someone is interested in using Osta purely for the healing benefits, how long can it be run?
I know it's not going to shine when used with AAS, but when used purely for healing, and not for the other benefits, would it still be effective if run with AAS?
^^ what's your reasoning for this, bud..
Regarding GW and cancer - here is the web address of the header of a paper presented at the 48th toxicology congress of 2009 - www.toxicology.org/AI/Pub/Tox/2009Tox.pdf. Page 185 of report, papers 896 and 897. I have used GW, I love GW but I reckon it is in the best interests of the members of the forum that they do take a look.
I have no intention of being a scaremonger and have the greatest respect for the head contributor to this thread, but feel it is worth reading.
The research I have done tells me:A SARM for women would ideally stimulate bone retention, or libido and other sexual function that androgens can influence, without negative side effects such as development of male gender characteristics (virilization), increased LDL/HDL ratios, liver disfunction, and so forth.im assuming your asking as to why to leave out the s4? I've read quite a few females having issues with it in study and don't feel its necessary with the sides that it has given them... that's not to say it will effect them all that way but it seems to give quite a few of them problems...
The research I have done tells me:A SARM for women would ideally stimulate bone retention, or libido and other sexual function that androgens can influence, without negative side effects such as development of male gender characteristics (virilization), increased LDL/HDL ratios, liver disfunction, and so forth.
As a female who has run Sarms more than most men on here, I love s4. It gives a woman muscle hardening and fat loss, which is why I give it to my rats several times per year. It's been compared to var, especially for women, and I have always recommended it for other female rats.
The only time I experienced sides was with a specific brand, since switching I've been fine with high doses...
Not attacking you my friend - when I said 'most guys' I said that and not 'dylan' for a reason...we are good lol
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I appreciate the article that you have posted... It is always great to have these on hand... However, you do realize that the study was after 104 weeks of dosage... That's quite a bit of a difference between running it 8-12 weeks...
Point is valid !! The doses were also extremely high - between 5mg/kg body weight up to 40mg/kg body weight. So on a 170lbs male that would equate to about 400 mg -3200mg per day for 104 weeks. Reckon the toxicity would get you before the cancer.
Once again Dylan, thanks for your tireless input. Much appreciated
Any chance you have had a chance to try the new sarm lgd? I'm interested in it but seems so new I worry about any sides.
no i have not... you need to read the logs that are out there...
I'm reading them currently just was interested in seeing if u had gotten to it yet.
anytime bro...
Mr Research paper back again...
just checked this Research Paper precis on LG4033 http://www.biotechduediligence.com/uploads/6/3/6/7/6367956/lgnd_sarm_poster.pdf
it looks the business. Think my rats will be running it in the latter half of the year to see the effects on swim bike and run strength and endurance.
Will keep following logs on PCT and on cycle support for a few more months, then look to slot it in.
reckon my rats are gonna work real hard

Hey guys, hope all of your rats are enjoying their SARM's as always!
Just dropped by because I was looking for a substitute for Unleashed in my mini PCT. I moved recently, and I cannot find my bottle of it. I assume it was just thrown away
So anything else I could use in place of it? I still have my Post cycle and bridge, gonna start my PCT on april 11th so I'm kinda in a rush.
test infusion
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Just bought and received an 8 week supply of Ostarine and MK-677 from researchSarms. Took the first dose today and was wondering if it's normal for it to instantly feel warm inside your mouth. Sorry if this has been talked about but I just got off my 3rd shift job and it's bed time. I haven't had much time to ready the forums yet. I've only been a member for a few days. Thanks for any help
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Hey Dylan. I have a question about s4 dosing. My rat is currently through day 9 dosing s4 at 50mg ed, with no reported vision sides. At what point do you recommend upping the dose and at what intervals? Thanks.
I got a bottle of MK-2866 30ml/50mg/ml (osta? ) and wondering what I should do.
1. If I use 20mg a day it will last 75 days (10 weeks)
2. use 25mg a day and it will last 60 days ( 8 weeks)
3. use 20mg a day for 8 weeks, stop for 5 weeks and use the rest for 2 weeks?
What is best? I will only use MK-2866, no other sarm. As I read I dont need any PCT. Should I start slow with 20mg? Never used anything like this before.
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