Test-deca cycle advice needed

[stevesmi]

I am so tired of people calling out Deca dick. That's why you run it with Test. The only time I haver ever seen Deca dick is when some idiot runs it without test.


55 and still fucking dangerous

running test with deca does nothing to combat progesterone side effects.. in fact it actually makes it worse. hence why if you google deca dick you get a lot of threads from plenty of guys that ran 'deca' with test and had problems

the main problem with deca is that its a long ester so when guys come off recovery is delayed substantially as the ester takes many weeks to clear out.. most people don't know that deca is not the name of the steroid itself.. its the name of the ESTER!!! people don't seem to grasp that!!

to the OP: if you run a deca ester (doesn't matter if its test or nandrolone) you need to run it the correct way as said above. you gotta cover all your bases, and you need to run it so that you take advantage of that long ester it has. 9 weeks is leaving a lot on the table.. deca should be run 14 weeks. i don't care for the stuff though, there are better options out there

if you want 9 weeks then swap it out for NPP... but i would stay away from all nandrolones at this point cause you have no clue what you are doing

 

[stevesmi]

I am sure it happens but I hate to see all the scare tactics regarding gear. This is why nobody believes half what their told. You would think Tren will kill you when you run it from the horrible sides but it varies from person to person. Not everyone gets Deca dick either. I agree on supports but if you don't know this stuff you shouldn't be fucking with gear anyway. More than half of every young kid I have talked to in my gym (18-25) do absolutely everything wrong and don't give a shit either. That's how you think when your young. I am indestructible. Knowledge is power.


55 and still fucking dangerous

I've talked to guys both on here and in the gym that have juiced for 30 years and still don't know what a PCT is. unfortunately ignorance comes in all ages. if anything the younger generation is leaps and bounds ahead of your generation when it comes to this shit because of the internet and sites like this

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Up the Deca to 400 wk. keep the test at 500. D-Bol kick would be the icing on the cake. 50mg/Ed wk 1-4.


55 and still fucking dangerous

Automatically upping the dose just because is very bad advice. 200 mg of deca is plenty to get results from. Especially for a first time.


Deca dick is from the prolactin increase killing your sex drive. Running test doesn't always fix it. Test doesn't change the level of prolactin. Even if your dick still works you will likely get some desensitization from it that you won't enjoy.
This is why we run caber to prevent deca dick and sexual dysfunction.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

I've talked to guys both on here and in the gym that have juiced for 30 years and still don't know what a PCT is. unfortunately ignorance comes in all ages. if anything the younger generation is leaps and bounds ahead of your generation when it comes to this shit because of the internet and sites like this

I re did a pct for a friend today that was given to him by an IFBB pro. Yes really. I have met the guy. He's been in all the magazines ect... Not super popular but whatever. He had my friend set to do 40mg of nolva a day for 8 weeks and the old 300/200/100/50 clomid protocol. just goes to show that most everyone is still stuck on outdated bullshit.

 

[stevesmi]

^^^ i bet that guy who recommended that doesn't even cycle. the few times he tried to cycle just quit and decided to stay on using that shitty pct.

 

[Tbone1974]

Am sick hearin about caber. Firstly it's impossible to get hold of secondly you only need it your getting sides.
I've ran deca and tren at the same time deca and test tren and test. Always PCT using nolva. Granted I had shite advice and didn't know what I was doing. Point is my Dick hasn't fell off I've got 2 kids n my wife is pregnant.

 

[bigbassturd]

Am sick hearin about caber. Firstly it's impossible to get hold of secondly you only need it your getting sides.
I've ran deca and tren at the same time deca and test tren and test. Always PCT using nolva. Granted I had shite advice and didn't know what I was doing. Point is my Dick hasn't fell off I've got 2 kids n my wife is pregnant.

If you're sick of hearing about how to safely control prolactin, don't come to this site. We don't intend on giving out shit advice and putting people in danger just because you don't know where to get the shit or because you don't think you need it.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and assume you didn't take bloods during or after you foolishly stacked 19nor's and followed with nolva?

Imagine that..

 

[Tbone1974]

Why would I get bloods done if I felt ok. To get bloods done i would need to go to my GP he would then ask why? Oh just worried my dicks gonna stop workin. Eh fuck off and don't waste my time would be the response. Otherwise I would need to pay to get it done again why would I if I felt ok. Then if I did I would need to come here and ask what I'm looking for and get a million answers from wee fannies who think they know everything cos they've read some journal on a website.

 

[bigbassturd]

Why would I get bloods done if I felt ok. To get bloods done i would need to go to my GP he would then ask why? Oh just worried my dicks gonna stop workin. Eh fuck off and don't waste my time would be the response. Otherwise I would need to pay to get it done again why would I if I felt ok. Then if I did I would need to come here and ask what I'm looking for and get a million answers from wee fannies who think they know everything cos they've read some journal on a website.

Because with AAS, how you 'feel' doesn't mean dick.

And it sounds like you need a new doctor. Blood panels are only about 50 bucks, can't afford it?

If you don't know what you're looking for, ask. If you think we don't know what we're talking about and don't want to ask, why in fuck's name are you even a member?

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[Tbone1974]

I stay in Scotland dude we deal with somethin called the NHS it's not pretty and I'm just not in the habit of wasting money on what I think I don't need.
I didn't say no one doesn't know what their talkin about. Ive taken some of this shit on board I'm dropping Nolva from my next PCT started takin aromasin and I appreciate the advice.
Was just sayin anyone new to this would be under the impression you can't take deca or tren without caber or yer dicks gonna fall off. Strictly speaking that ain't true. I'm sure someone a few years bk would have said the same about Nolva.
IMO with a test, dbol & deca cycle you should be a hell of a lot more worried about estro sides. Maybe I'm wrong tho.