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Then the question is did Bush make his supporters look bad or did he make white people look bad?
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Then the question is did Bush make his supporters look bad or did he make white people look bad?
Bush made Americans look bad. All of them.
BO is the first black prez, and obviously a lot of pressure is on him to succeed because of this. He has failed miserably, so most are going to correlate that with him being black. I do not, but most will. Like it or not, racism is everywhere, and it's from every race. I am not a racist, and honestly think BO has done a better job than McCain would have, given the shithole we were in in 08, but better is not best. We were given the choice between an incompetent fool, and an evel less competant fool. the fact is, Obama has had 4 years and has failed in damn near every aspect of the presidency.
What sucks worse is we are now stuck with the same choice we had 4 years ago, and neither candidate seems like they're going to be able to even knock a dent in this problem we have
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Hey made both look bad. IMO
Maybe its just me, maybe I hoped Obama would have done more for his peps.
Tectime
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We need a business person to run this country! White black doesn't matter, it's about building a strong economy, not making it easier on lazy people, it's about working to improve yourself, not letting the gov give you shit,earn it ! You let the gov give you something you open the door for them to take something away! People need to vote with their heads and think about how you want to live. We live in the greatest country ever, Americans will always prevail, always come out on top when left to our own devices!
After 4 years the economy should have improved vastly to this point. BO policies have stagnated and prolonged the recovery at best and more than likely it was made worse than we should have been at this point in time.
and racism is a bigger issue than it's been since the O.J. trial. One of my oldest (hardcore conservative) friends, someone I've known 30 years, said she'd rather vote for anyone than "that monkey in the white house"....and she's not even racist to be honest.
Here's what you don't get. White people aren't being blamed for why blacks are still wherever they are now. However they DO NOT get a pass for being the reason they are there in the first place. What someone does to themselves doesn't in any way absolve you of what you may have done. Case in point.
Friends of yours gave little Johnny shit all through grade school. Maybe because he was a minority; maybe he was gay; maybe he had a disability; maybe he just sucked at sports...doesn't matter. Johnny grows up and starts smoking, drinking, not taking care of himself. By age 52 Johnny is a complete mess. He's overweight, diabetic, has throat cancer. Does the fact that he's pretty much done this to himself (although one could argue his childhood treatment is a factor) somehow absolve your friends of responsibility for treating him like shit long ago?
I neither needed nor expected him to do anything for me. I've never felt like the guy in the white house has much bearing on my success.
WoodyO
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That reminds me. I need to get greased up and head to the beach.
Hes not absolved but at what point does he keep bearing responsibility? Should a sincere apology be good enough and then move on? Should he be sued by a 52 year old in civil court for damages from childhood bullying? I dont understand at what point white people should feel guilty or stop feeling guilty for the past?
Im 38 and have had certain problems for decades that my parents have directly contributed to, not intentionally, but by negligence in certain areas. I dont absolve them of all responsibility but I dont ask anything of them either and I continue to love them and treat them with the respect and dignity anyone else would that didnt have that past issue. I havent demanded an apology but i did let them know in no uncertain terms their contributing factors. Im sure they feel guilty still but i think its one of those unforeseen things, so what are we to do? I think people arent perfect and life isnt fair sometimes and life just goes on and you deal with it the best you can, just like my parents did for my grandparents shortcomings.
placing blame doesn't solve anything. you're still left in the same place you were before you figured out whose "fault" it is that you're there. we can't change the past bro. I'm not saying to forget about it but at some point you have to accept it and move on and take responsibility for yourself.
you seem like a responsible guy whose taken it upon himself to have a better life. the white man didn't keep you down. what's making it any different for anyone else?
