First cycle help

[babybash24]

hey guys what do u think abt:

12 weeks testo enanthate
+ first 4 weeks anadrol
+ 25mg proviron ED for 14 weeks
then 40 20 ED Nolvadex in week 15 16 for pct

i dont have access to other drugs for pct and AI,

i am 27, 6'6'' 98Kg, 20% fat ,

do u think i can get my bf% down to 10% with a gd diet?

 

[dylangemelli]

first off, your body fat is way too high to be running a cycle... you need to get down to at least 15% before you even consider it... second, why in the hell would you run anadrol when your trying to drop weight and body fat? that is about as far from a cutter as you can get... third, if you can't get a proper pct, which nolva most definitely is not, then you cannot run a cycle... the pct is the most important part of it...

 

[babybash24]

so what would be a simple pct for the above cycle?

 

[dylangemelli]

clomid
unleashed/post cycle
forma stanzol
daa powerchews

 

[dylangemelli]

there is no such thing as a simple pct... pct is supposed to recover you and its the most important part of the cycle, so it should never be taken lightly or shorted...

 

[babybash24]

clomid
unleashed/post cycle
forma stanzol
daa powerchews

i know clomid and u can get it over the counter here,
but what are the others isnt stanozol a steroid ??
moreover i have been looking all over trhe internet and everybody seem to take nolvadex 40 40 20 20
why that does not apply here?

 

[dylangemelli]

thats forma stanzol... not stanozol... two totally different things...

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/nolvadex-tamox-927293.html

there's some nice info in this thread about why nolva is complete fucking shit

 

[muscleaddiction]

hey guys what do u think abt:

12 weeks testo enanthate
+ first 4 weeks anadrol
+ 25mg proviron ED for 14 weeks
then 40 20 ED Nolvadex in week 15 16 for pct

i dont have access to other drugs for pct and AI,

i am 27, 6'6'' 98Kg, 20% fat ,

do u think i can get my bf% down to 10% with a gd diet?

Anadrol for first cycle? Um, no mas! Leave it out completely and just run test bro. Much better options than Nolva...Torem for instance. Unleashed/Post Cycle will work fine, but always keep an AI on hand for and issues with estrogen, don't want gyno.

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[Flash421]

Just wondering, why the powerchews for pct?

 

[rms13]

Why is everyone here anti nolva? Ive been told by other people with lots of cycling experience that nolva is all you need for a good pct and clomid is usually overkill


Also ts, you shouldnt cycle if you dont have ai on hand. You will be very sorry if your estrogen gets out of control

 

[Cali72]

Why is everyone here anti nolva? Ive been told by other people with lots of cycling experience that nolva is all you need for a good pct and clomid is usually overkill


Also ts, you shouldnt cycle if you dont have ai on hand. You will be very sorry if your estrogen gets out of control

The people that are telling you this don't have a clue regardless of cycling experience.

I know plenty of people in the gym that live by that philosophy too and seriously man they don't know shit about setting up cycles, on cycle support supps and pct.
They basically run 12-15 week cycles with no on cycle support supps and run nolva for 4 weeks as a pct.

Very poor set up IMO.

 

[RickRock13]

Why is everyone here anti nolva? Ive been told by other people with lots of cycling experience that nolva is all you need for a good pct and clomid is usually overkill


Also ts, you shouldnt cycle if you dont have ai on hand. You will be very sorry if your estrogen gets out of control

Nolva is the "old school" way of PCT, and not the best by any means. I don't think its complete shit, but Clomid is just better and Nolva can lead to other problems especially when ran after certain compounds

 

[stevesmi]

are you sure your stats are accurate?

6 foot 6 inches and 215 pounds with 20% body fat? I don't think your height is correct you listed, and if it is you aren't 20% body fat. someone your height and weight is skinny, not fat.

post up a pic and we will tell you what your body fat is. this makes a difference as to the advice you will get