Beginner First Cycle

[dylangemelli]

Thanks just ordered some unleashed/post cycle from PF. Ok thanks too I was under the impression tamoxifen was an AI but I understand now. So now for my PCT I will run the following(Complete Cycle including PCT is 18 weeks):

15-17 Aromasin 12.5 mg's e3d adjust as needed
15-18 Clomid 50/50/25/25
15-18 Unleashed/Post Cycle Combo

Or do you still think I should lower dosage of Clomid?

bro, i laid out the clomid dosage for you before... 25/12.5/12.5/12.5... everything else is fine... if you cannot get forma then aromasin is fine...

 

[UFC205]

Hey Guys,
I am on week 3 of the cycle and have taken 60mg everyday and 500mg of Test-E each week too. So far I have not really noticed any changes from the var or test-e. I've been told and researched myself that the var usually takes about 4 weeks to kick in as well as the test-e. Just wondering why in the cycle you guys laid out for me it only have me doing the var for 4 weeks and then stopping it once it starts to kick in and then do it again for weeks 11-14?

The cycle I am doing is this:
1-4 Anavar 20 mg's three times a day
1-12 test E 500 mg's weekly
11-14 Anavar 20 mg's three times a day
3-17 Aromasin 12.5 mg's e3d adjust ad needed
15-18 Clomid
15-18 Unleashed/Post cycle Combo

+ NAC during anavar usage for liver protection.

So if var doesn't kick in until the 4th week is this cycle for the var in there kinda pointless?? Should i maybe just run it for 8 weeks straight from weeks 1-8? Thanks again guys.

 

[dylangemelli]

i don't have a big problem with you using this type of stack as a first cycle but you need to pick one way or the other... Either use anavar at the start or the finish... It would be much more beneficial to run it the last 6 weeks of the cycle at 60 mg... You need to make sure you have n2guard on this, especially when you start anavar and i would also recommend using hcgenerate because anavar can shut you down... Start hcg week 5-12...

Your pct needs fixed

low dose clomid 25/12.5/12.5/12.5
unleashed/post cycle combo
forma stanzol

you obviously didn't read this post that i wrote to you before... I clearly told you to pick one or the other and to run it for 6 weeks so please do not say that you were not told when and how to properly run it... Go back and read what i wrote!

 

[UFC205]

thanks dylangemelli, ok well since im already 3 weeks deep i will just run it for 6 weeks straight. How critical is the HCG? I don't think I can get my hands on any HCG but would HCGenerate work instead?

 

[dylangemelli]

thanks dylangemelli, ok well since im already 3 weeks deep i will just run it for 6 weeks straight. How critical is the HCG? I don't think I can get my hands on any HCG but would HCGenerate work instead?

hcgenerate will work great and is fine to use as a substitute...

 

[UFC205]

hcgenerate will work great and is fine to use as a substitute...

Ok so if I do run it weeks 5-12 I'll need 2 bottles of it then? How much am I increasing risk of shutdown if I don't run any HCG or hcgenerate while on cycle? Like would I shutdown 100% if not or just the possibility increases?

 

[dylangemelli]

Ok so if I do run it weeks 5-12 I'll need 2 bottles of it then? How much am I increasing risk of shutdown if I don't run any HCG or hcgenerate while on cycle?

yes you would need two bottles... i would never want to run a cycle of that length and go into pct completely shut down... thats going to make pct much more difficult and a longer recovery time...

 

[UFC205]

yes you would need two bottles... i would never want to run a cycle of that length and go into pct completely shut down... thats going to make pct much more difficult and a longer recovery time...

Ok so basically what you're saying is it's pretty much guaranteed I will shutdown by the time I'm into pct If I dont run any HCG or hcgenerate during cycle?

 

[dylangemelli]

Ok so basically what you're saying is it's pretty much guaranteed I will shutdown by the time I'm into pct If I dont run any HCG or hcgenerate during cycle?

chances are high and are definitely much higher without hcg or hcgenerate...

 

[Judo Tom]

Hey Guys,
I am on week 3 of the cycle and have taken 60mg everyday and 500mg of Test-E each week too. So far I have not really noticed any changes from the var or test-e. I've been told and researched myself that the var usually takes about 4 weeks to kick in as well as the test-e. Just wondering why in the cycle you guys laid out for me it only have me doing the var for 4 weeks and then stopping it once it starts to kick in and then do it again for weeks 11-14?

The cycle I am doing is this:
1-4 Anavar 20 mg's three times a day
1-12 test E 500 mg's weekly
..........

look if you have legit gear and you have not noticed a difference yet then you are either not training properly, not eating properly or a mix of both.

what is your diet like? because 3 weeks in your test levels are literally SUPERHUMAN at this point and if you cant notice something major is wrong.