Farm Bill Passes Senate...

[brownbrown]

So you growing GMO Orange?

 

[redsamurai]

Oh and the land does not require layers of chemical to raise a crop, that is a completely incorrect statement. We spray our corn crop twice to spread the risk, but could do it once if we choose to

what part of the country are you farming in? and you don't use any kind of manure laden with any chemicals whatsoever?

If this is all true you are in possession of something that's becoming rarer and rare in this country.....clean land. The farmer in Indiana where I interned, this was prime Indiana farm country in around Muncie not far from Ball St., he told me why it was hard for them to be organic and not use GMO's was that it was getting harder and harder to grow anything out of this land. They had certain tracts where they were experimenting with different organic techiniques but for the most part the farm used chemical fertilizers.

 

[redsamurai]

oh and he said this is pretty much how it is in most of the commercial farmland in the states. Why fertilzier is such a huge business.

 

[simply dave]

I farm, we don't get paid to not plant acres, that happendyears ago when the demand for corn wasn't there from the grain embargo. 80% of the farm bill goes for Welfare n school lunch programs. We get about 20$ an acre so we have to report planted acres of each crop whether it be soybeans or corn. I believe that direct payment is ending now which is fine, but they will not be getting anymore info about my farm for free. Another thing most don't realize is we can receive 1.78 for our corn in the form of a cheap loan, we pay it back but the govt puts it in the general fund so its always an expense for the govt even though we pay it back with interest.

Without direct payments (subsidies), how much does it cost you to grow a bushel of corn (out of pocket) and how much does the grain elevator pay you for said bushel?

 

[simply dave]

Oh and the land does not require layers of chemical to raise a crop, that is a completely incorrect statement. We spray our corn crop twice to spread the risk, but could do it once if we choose to

Do you spray w/ atrazine?

 

[orange2]

This was the first year e have used atrazine in many years and it was a very small rate. We grow a lot of gmo corn and 100% of it goes to an ethanol plant. We don't use manure, we use commercial fertilizer for consistency. Well this year with rent and crop inputs it cost about 750$ per acre to raise a corn crop. We generally ave over 170 bu per acre. While the 20$ isn't needed at all, I spend it which is does help local business. You gotta realize up until ethanol production that 20-25$ an acre was all I ever made. Right now prices are going up, can get 6.8$ per bu at local ethanol plant, but I sold my crop already. We are in a drought and it could hurt a lot of businesses associated with ag.

 

[orange2]

I farm in Iowa, do most of u know the box that corn flakes comes in costs more to make than the corn that's in it? Ag is subsidized and I am not denying that at all. It used to be needed but not anymore, but take all the subsidies away from big oil also as they make billions a quarter

 

[redsamurai]

Oh I'll agree with you on that one...why oil is subsidized in this country is pure unadulterated corruption to the tune of billions while we bicker about a healthcare program that could better the lives of a hundred or so million people.

Now you said you use fertilizer....is that not chemicals?

 

[orange2]

Chemicals kill weeds and grass, fertilizer is phosphorus n potassium, sulfur and nitrogen, those are key for growing corn. Most use round up, which u could drink if u wanted to. We take care of the land, if we don't yields go down and u don't make money

 

[brownbrown]

So you DO grow GMO!
did you fold to them, or go down fighting?