King Obama makes a "Executive decission" to allow people that are here illegally

[SpyWizard]

To work as they are able.

Side stepping once again Laws as set forth by Congress, and thus the will of the people..


Who the Fcuk is paying to teach, feed and care for these children??

the 47% of Americans that pay taxes?

My real issue with him and this being just yet another example of how he believes he "Knows what's best" just keep drinking the coolaid..

The question begets the idea, will he step down as president of the USA when he's voted out..

Under the order, the Obama administration wouldn't seek to deport illegal immigrants under 30 who entered the U.S. as children and meet certain other residency and education requirements for the next two years. They also would be eligible to apply for work permits, the Department of Homeland Security said. DHS is the parent agency of the Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement.
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The order could apply to as many as 800,000 young illegal immigrants, officials estimated. The Pew Hispanic Center, a project of the Pew Research Center, said later that even more immigrants — as many as 1.4 million children and young adults — could meet the eligibility requirements. That would be about 12 percent of the 11.2 million illegal immigrants estimated to be in the U.S. as of 2010.

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2...-dilemma-for-eligible-illegal-immigrants?lite

 

[-SD-]

He will issue an executive order once he loses the election that will allow him to declare the election null and void, all for our own good, if we all were just smart enough to understand what hes doing.

 

[bigbassturd]

Who does he think he is?

He doesn't give a fuck about congress, laws, checks and balances, or the American public.

Fuck I'm pacing

 

[shirlene29]

ok...while I get whats being said and agree I have a weird twist on this sort of thing
the foremen for my house reconstruction moved with his parents to the US when he was 4 (from Chile) and his parents became citizens
he had a social security number and had held a legit job since he was 16 ...hes in his late 30's now
he went to get a passport for his honeymoon to Greece ..and his bride to be is a prosecutor/attorney (for an added odd twist)
turns out he was here illegally and was facing deportation


now how in the fuck do you tell someone that has a ss# , lived and worked here their whole life ..hell had a Brooklyn accent, has two daughters here with his ex wife ..paid in to ss and was a working contributing citizen and tell them they have to get out?
dude ended up spending a small fortune in attorneys fees and a whole lot of lost time from work trying to stay in the country when it really boiled down to his parents misunderstanding of the immigration laws

now I get that hes an exception but still

 

[machine23]

I HATE Obama.. He's a real piece of shit. A traitor to this country. Why anyone would vote for him again I don't know know. He has gone against everything he said he stood for, and how he was going to clean shit up.. He has made shit worse. It's sad to know that te constitution means nothing anymore. He didn't tho cause he knows he has fucked the blacks over so he needs the Hispanic vote now. Fuckn prick. I been pissed about this the whole week

 

[-SD-]

ok...while I get whats being said and agree I have a weird twist on this sort of thing
the foremen for my house reconstruction moved with his parents to the US when he was 4 (from Chile) and his parents became citizens
he had a social security number and had held a legit job since he was 16 ...hes in his late 30's now
he went to get a passport for his honeymoon to Greece ..and his bride to be is a prosecutor/attorney (for an added odd twist)
turns out he was here illegally and was facing deportation


now how in the fuck do you tell someone that has a ss# , lived and worked here their whole life ..hell had a Brooklyn accent, has two daughters here with his ex wife ..paid in to ss and was a working contributing citizen and tell them they have to get out?
dude ended up spending a small fortune in attorneys fees and a whole lot of lost time from work trying to stay in the country when it really boiled down to his parents misunderstanding of the immigration laws

now I get that hes an exception but still

Thats why its called the exception. No law is perfect

 

[PICK3]

repoast!

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/c...g-younger-undocumented-immigrants-939023.html

 

[mrplunkey]

He admitted on video that he didn't have the power to do this several years ago.

Desperate times call for desperate measures.

 

[EnderJE]

I HATE Obama.. He's a real piece of shit. A traitor to this country. Why anyone would vote for him again I don't know know. He has gone against everything he said he stood for, and how he was going to clean shit up.. He has made shit worse. It's sad to know that te constitution means nothing anymore. He didn't tho cause he knows he has fucked the blacks over so he needs the Hispanic vote now. Fuckn prick. I been pissed about this the whole week

Then leave.

Go to another place or Valhalla.

 

[simply dave]

LOL...As much as I hate to say it...Many of you have no clue. I would love nothing more than to enlighten my newly found friends, but judging from your posts, I feel thet your "dogma" is so firmly entrenched up your asses that you couldn't see the light of day if it shone upon your collective faces.

I will leave you with these 2 links to bring you into the light...
THOMAS (Library of Congress)

and..
OpenSecrets.org: Money in Politics -- See Who's Giving & Who's Getting

Now quit bitching...Man up...and start effecting a change. Either that or STFU or I will call you on it...And you don't want to be humiliated by an old man.

 

[EnderJE]

LOL...As much as I hate to say it...Many of you have no clue. I would love nothing more than to enlighten my newly found friends, but judging from your posts, I feel thet your "dogma" is so firmly entrenched up your asses that you couldn't see the light of day if it shone upon your collective faces.

I will leave you with these 2 links to bring you into the light...
THOMAS (Library of Congress)

and..
OpenSecrets.org: Money in Politics -- See Who's Giving & Who's Getting

Now quit bitching...Man up...and start effecting a change. Either that or STFU or I will call you on it...And you don't want to be humiliated by an old man.

'struth...

Obama this, Bush that, Romney the other...I don't think that it matters at all regardless who is voted.

 

[txpistolero]

People arent pissed because its wrong. Theyre pissed because they aren't manipulating the system enough as well. I'm a citizen, generations before me as well. I have a decent paying job and will continue to pay taxes and not give a fuck because, even though we think so strongly that our money goes to nothing but political pockets, it does way more. I am a strong believer of contributing to welfare as well. Having never been on welfare, I continue to agree with paying into out. Because of the thousands and thousands that abuse it, there are thousands that survive off of it. I am a proud american and if out of 99 that cheat me, 1 may be feeding their child because of my help.

The mind wonders and heart wanders

 

[EnderJE]

People arent pissed because its wrong. Theyre pissed because they aren't manipulating the system enough as well. I'm a citizen, generations before me as well. I have a decent paying job and will continue to pay taxes and not give a fuck because, even though we think so strongly that our money goes to nothing but political pockets, it does way more. I am a strong believer of contributing to welfare as well. Having never been on welfare, I continue to agree with paying into out. Because of the thousands and thousands that abuse it, there are thousands that survive off of it. I am a proud american and if out of 99 that cheat me, 1 may be feeding their child because of my help.

The mind wonders and heart wanders

The part that I never got is the amount of focus that left or right have for the other guy. For example, when Bush was in power, people on the left were pissy and posted up on how he's a bad guy. Now that Obama is in power, the people on the right are doing the same.

I submit that the problem isn't the left or the right, but the problem is with the whole two party system and the amount of money in the system. During Bush's time, some people were saying that he's too stupid to lead the country and that people are likely controlling him behind the scenes. Let's say that it's true for argument's sake. Why do those same people think differently when Obama is in power?

 

[brownbrown]

The part that I never got is the amount of focus that left or right have for the other guy. For example, when Bush was in power, people on the left were pissy and posted up on how he's a bad guy. Now that Obama is in power, the people on the right are doing the same.

I submit that the problem isn't the left or the right, but the problem is with the whole two party system and the amount of money in the system. During Bush's time, some people were saying that he's too stupid to lead the country and that people are likely controlling him behind the scenes. Let's say that it's true for argument's sake. Why do those same people think differently when Obama is in power?

Thats why we need a parliamentary government.

 

[nangiggles]

For iIllegal immigrant graduates, a 'leap of faith has been answered,' educator says - CNN.com

 

[simply dave]

I'm going to let you folks in on another "dirty little secret" regarding the immigration issue and why it will never be resolved...

Us Americans like our inexpensive produce and meats. How many here enjoy grilling/smoking those baby back ribs that you get on sale for $4.99/lb? Probably more than a few, yes? Most of those ribs come from a producer by the name of Cargill. Said producer actually advertises for meat packing jobs....IN MEXICO!!!!! Said producer transports illegals to their facility and even provides doctored IDs and such. All so that they can keep costs down and pass the savings on to us STOOPID Americans.

Now, here's the rub...Periodically, ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) will bring in the media and do a sweep to round up a few illegals. This gives the public (who happen to be clueless and asleep at the wheel) the impression that something is actually being done to address the immigration issue. The trick is that ICE, in cahoots with Cargill, will round up just enough to make the news, but not enough to adversely impact production. It's also done in conjunction with the next batch to be moved in so that they can fully staff quickly.

This is just one example of one meat packer. This is rampant in Big Agra...and Big Agra has "big money" (special interests) to line the pockets of our "illustrious elected officials".

Think about it the next time you buy those baby back ribs on sale. Who is really to blame here?

 

[txpistolero]

What pisses me off is not the illegals that come to this country and work to feed themselves or their families. What pisses me off is the hundreds of beggars I see everyday throughout chicago. Lazy fucking people. Don't tell me, live in their shoes or its not easy to find a job, because if you want something bad enough you will do what it takes. I have been jobless and near homeless with kids to feed, but what I did was take jobs and work. Its not that there are no jobs. Its people seeing a job for less than minimum wage and saying fuck it, being lazy is easier. And I have not nor will I ever say, "they" take jobs that people don't want, because its not true. Americans want those jobs. But the difference is, they get up at 5am and go out there and hustle to get those jobs, while these lazy people sleep til theres traffic and then go and beg. You want to fix immigration? Fix ourselves first. immigrants are just a scapegoat and an excuse. The real epidemic and plague is with these lazy sheep.

The mind wonders and heart wanders

 

[-SD-]

I'm going to let you folks in on another "dirty little secret" regarding the immigration issue and why it will never be resolved...

Us Americans like our inexpensive produce and meats. How many here enjoy grilling/smoking those baby back ribs that you get on sale for $4.99/lb? Probably more than a few, yes? Most of those ribs come from a producer by the name of Cargill. Said producer actually advertises for meat packing jobs....IN MEXICO!!!!! Said producer transports illegals to their facility and even provides doctored IDs and such. All so that they can keep costs down and pass the savings on to us STOOPID Americans.

Now, here's the rub...Periodically, ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) will bring in the media and do a sweep to round up a few illegals. This gives the public (who happen to be clueless and asleep at the wheel) the impression that something is actually being done to address the immigration issue. The trick is that ICE, in cahoots with Cargill, will round up just enough to make the news, but not enough to adversely impact production. It's also done in conjunction with the next batch to be moved in so that they can fully staff quickly.

This is just one example of one meat packer. This is rampant in Big Agra...and Big Agra has "big money" (special interests) to line the pockets of our "illustrious elected officials".

Think about it the next time you buy those baby back ribs on sale. Who is really to blame here?

Im sure theres some sort of tie in to the war on drugs also lol
Stoopid goobermint

 

[Jack steel]

He will issue an executive order once he loses the election that will allow him to declare the election null and void, all for our own good, if we all were just smart enough to understand what hes doing.

Ha! Wouldn't surprise me a bit. I'm befuzzled about the fact that they shot down ID at the polls bill. Unbelievable! Just one of a thousand criticisms...

 

[nangiggles]

I'm going to let you folks in on another "dirty little secret" regarding the immigration issue and why it will never be resolved...

Us Americans like our inexpensive produce and meats. How many here enjoy grilling/smoking those baby back ribs that you get on sale for $4.99/lb? Probably more than a few, yes? Most of those ribs come from a producer by the name of Cargill. Said producer actually advertises for meat packing jobs....IN MEXICO!!!!! Said producer transports illegals to their facility and even provides doctored IDs and such. All so that they can keep costs down and pass the savings on to us STOOPID Americans.

Now, here's the rub...Periodically, ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) will bring in the media and do a sweep to round up a few illegals. This gives the public (who happen to be clueless and asleep at the wheel) the impression that something is actually being done to address the immigration issue. The trick is that ICE, in cahoots with Cargill, will round up just enough to make the news, but not enough to adversely impact production. It's also done in conjunction with the next batch to be moved in so that they can fully staff quickly.

This is just one example of one meat packer. This is rampant in Big Agra...and Big Agra has "big money" (special interests) to line the pockets of our "illustrious elected officials".

Think about it the next time you buy those baby back ribs on sale. Who is really to blame here?

Well come 4th of July when they are $1,99 a pound Im still buying them

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[machine23]

Then leave.

Go to another place or Valhalla.

Fuck you! You go! It's not my fault you have come to accept this shit.

 

[simply dave]

Well come 4th of July when they are $1,99 a pound Im still buying them

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It's perfectly acceptable to buy them Nan. In fact, I'm not condemning our complicity in the matter, I am simply pointing out the hypocrisy and irony that we, as Americans, like our standard of living yet rail against issues such as immigration when we really do not distill the issue down to a fundamental level...that we perpetuate the problem yet accept no responsibility for it. Couple that with the fact that most Americans do not care to be politically savvy and let our "illustrious" elected officials run the show, can we blame them for accepting brib...umm..."political donations" from special interest groups such as Big Agra.

We get the government we deserve.

 

[Jack steel]

ok...while I get whats being said and agree I have a weird twist on this sort of thing
the foremen for my house reconstruction moved with his parents to the US when he was 4 (from Chile) and his parents became citizens
he had a social security number and had held a legit job since he was 16 ...hes in his late 30's now
he went to get a passport for his honeymoon to Greece ..and his bride to be is a prosecutor/attorney (for an added odd twist)
turns out he was here illegally and was facing deportation


now how in the fuck do you tell someone that has a ss# , lived and worked here their whole life ..hell had a Brooklyn accent, has two daughters here with his ex wife ..paid in to ss and was a working contributing citizen and tell them they have to get out?
dude ended up spending a small fortune in attorneys fees and a whole lot of lost time from work trying to stay in the country when it really boiled down to his parents misunderstanding of the immigration laws

now I get that hes an exception but still

Well... Obama himself won't disclose his REAL birth certificate so how can we expect him to care about others' status? What an obscene failure this president is.

 

[themondtster]

I'm going to let you folks in on another "dirty little secret" regarding the immigration issue and why it will never be resolved...

Us Americans like our inexpensive produce and meats. How many here enjoy grilling/smoking those baby back ribs that you get on sale for $4.99/lb? Probably more than a few, yes? Most of those ribs come from a producer by the name of Cargill. Said producer actually advertises for meat packing jobs....IN MEXICO!!!!! Said producer transports illegals to their facility and even provides doctored IDs and such. All so that they can keep costs down and pass the savings on to us STOOPID Americans.

Now, here's the rub...Periodically, ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) will bring in the media and do a sweep to round up a few illegals. This gives the public (who happen to be clueless and asleep at the wheel) the impression that something is actually being done to address the immigration issue. The trick is that ICE, in cahoots with Cargill, will round up just enough to make the news, but not enough to adversely impact production. It's also done in conjunction with the next batch to be moved in so that they can fully staff quickly.

This is just one example of one meat packer. This is rampant in Big Agra...and Big Agra has "big money" (special interests) to line the pockets of our "illustrious elected officials".

Think about it the next time you buy those baby back ribs on sale. Who is really to blame here?

The movie Food Inc. shows footage of this. They bring in thousands of workers and give up like 5 a day as a quota to immigration. They overlook the fact that the packing facilities has hundred plus illegals as long as they keep their agents busy with the few. Same with war on drugs. It will never end because then you would have to lay of thousands of people.

 

[Jack steel]

A secret of mine LOL! : I'm on barrack's threat list or whatever they call it. Called a counseling hotline drunk as fuck and complained to him for 3 hours until I blacked out... Talked until my phone died and so I decided to get out and go down to the bar next door and wouldn't ya know there are 7 squad cars and secret service waiting for my ass lmao! I don't remember it at all, but apparently I mentioned something about his need to {:clears throat:}... Be taken out of office? Lol needless to say, bad move! Definitely kept in contact with SS a while after that haha. Totally proud of it now though >

I'm a former soldier, hence my bitterness and resentment :/ lol

 

[Jack steel]

And for the record... I don't really want to do that* and I honestly don't believe I said what the operator reported either... My theory is he was an Obama sympathizer and didn't like my opinion because I don't believe I'm that stupid even blacked out drunk lol.

 

[ChristianDom96]

Obama is def not getting re-elected. He is a socialist

 

[brownbrown]

Obama is def not getting re-elected. He is a socialist

We have a Socialist goverment already. Nothing new. STFU

DrOiD BioNiC EF App!

 

[EnderJE]

Fuck you! You go! It's not my fault you have come to accept this shit.

lmao...I don't find that mindless bitching about doom and gloom scenarios are a productive use of people's time. I've been other places and have already dealt with starving and totalitarian governments. This one is just a nuisance.

I was just trying to help you out given that you don't seem to be able to help yourself out and move to a nice place that you like.

Wait a second. You're Alec Baldwin, aren't you?

 

[EnderJE]

Well... Obama himself won't disclose his REAL birth certificate so how can we expect him to care about others' status? What an obscene failure this president is.

Oh God. More birth certificate BS? This getting as bad as Bush's guard duty.

We should start another war with some one. More for the mea grinder.

 

[Jack steel]

We have a Socialist goverment already. Nothing new. STFU

DrOiD BioNiC EF App!

No we don't. If you think this is socialist wait and see what happens if Obama wins again ( which he won't). Obama supporters have nothing to stand on anymore. He's indefensible and they have no other weapon but ignorant insults and steering around the topic at hand... But what else is new with liberals??

 

[Jack steel]

Oh God. More birth certificate BS? This getting as bad as Bush's guard duty.

We should start another war with some one. More for the mea grinder.

Then pray/tell why it took him his whole four year term to finally show a BC that was suspicious looking even still? Btw the Clinton's started the birther movement so don't be bitter at Republicans lol

 

[EnderJE]

No we don't. If you think this is socialist wait and see what happens if Obama wins again ( which he won't). Obama supporters have nothing to stand on anymore. He's indefensible and they have no other weapon but ignorant insults and steering around the topic at hand... But what else is new with liberals??

Meh...insults...lmao

 

[Jack steel]

For the record I hated bush too but Obama is just a nightmare I never imagined could come true. And I'm no bigot either. Hell, throw in a black woman for president and I'll vote for her as long as she's a fiscal conservative.

 

[EnderJE]

Then pray/tell why it took him his whole four year term to finally show a BC that was suspicious looking even still? Btw the Clinton's started the birther movement so don't be bitter at Republicans lol

I'm laughing because there are serious problems and people are pissed about a birth certificate. It reminds me how the side show took over the main tent.

Words like liberal and republican are thrown around. That's even funnier. There's no difference between the two sides.

 

[EnderJE]

For the record I hated bush too but Obama is just a nightmare I never imagined could come true.

The part that I never got is why a third party didn't get more support.

 

[EnderJE]

We get the government we deserve.

awesome point

 

[Jack steel]

The part that I never got is why a third party didn't get more support.

I agree... I wouldve supported Ron paul if his foreign policy didn't leave us high, dry and vulnerable.

 

[Jack steel]

awesome point

Agreed.

 

[Jack steel]

Turns out Osama bin laden was obama's 3rd cousin! What? Does that mean he doesn't get his virgins anymore? Lmao! Jk Im too argumentative, but it's fun as hell to piss off those that don't agree with my political opinions don't hate me

 

[EnderJE]

Just kidding. I don't care other then machine23 taking it anally from his dog again...

 

[Jack steel]

Just kidding. I don't care other then machine23 taking it anally from his dog again...

Ooo =-o hottt!!!

 

[EnderJE]

Ooo =-o hottt!!!

Have you seen that dog? It should be considered a horse. Machine23 is a strong guy to take that up the butt. I'd be crying bloody uncle.

 

[simply dave]

I agree... I wouldve supported Ron paul if his foreign policy didn't leave us high, dry and vulnerable.

Oh...I would so love to hear this. Do tell.

 

[simply dave]

And before you reply, I should let you know that I will be asking you some rather direct questions of Foreign Policy. I suggest you research the Sykes-Picot Agreement, Balfour Declaration, the 1954 coup d'etat in Guatemala involving United Fruit, the 1953 coup in Iran that seated Mohammad Reza Pahlavi...and the subsequent fallout/blowback in the Middle East as a result of that. We will be discussing other issues, but I thought I'd give you a little bit of a head start.

Game on...from one veteran to another.

 

[wootoom]

Jack Steel is a faggot

 

[simply dave]

Jack Steel is a faggot

Regardless, let's see if he can logically back up his "I'm a fiscal conservative, but I support paying for American Empire and Homeland Security" argument. Neocons are too easy to destroy in this category. They either concede that they're not "true fiscal conservatives" or they ignore the argument.

Nonetheless, this is the dialog I relish as I am a former neocon myself...until I began using my brain.

 

[wootoom]

Simply Dave does it all, a true patriot. Love you bro!

 

[bigbassturd]

Simply dave is my EF man crush

No.. mo........


Tea Party anyone?

 

[stevesmi]

And before you reply, I should let you know that I will be asking you some rather direct questions of Foreign Policy. I suggest you research the Sykes-Picot Agreement, Balfour Declaration, the 1954 coup d'etat in Guatemala involving United Fruit, the 1953 coup in Iran that seated Mohammad Reza Pahlavi...and the subsequent fallout/blowback in the Middle East as a result of that. We will be discussing other issues, but I thought I'd give you a little bit of a head start.

Game on...from one veteran to another.

this is very true. the US foreign policy the past 105 years since basically the Spanish/American war has been very inconsistent.. we will support a leader, then take him out.. Bin Laden and Hussein are perfect examples.. we supported both for years, Bin laden vs. the russians then Hussein vs. the Iranians then we backstabbed both and in the end both sides end up hating us. they are both scumbag murderes and evil villains, however when they were killing who we hated they were our buddies and this is exactly the problem. in the meantime it costs american troops lives, civilian lives, and us a shit ton of money. the winners in the end are the defense contractors, everyone else loses.

Simply Dave you should run for congress, as long as you don't backstab the juicers on here after you get in .. we need lifters and bbers in congress

 

[nangiggles]

Im sure jack steel wont be back soon

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[simply dave]

Simply Dave you should run for congress, as long as you don't backstab the juicers on here after you get in .. we need lifters and bbers in congress

Thank you. Oh, rest assured, I am a vehement "Standard Bearer" for the freedoms/liberties of the individual. My wife and I are MMJ growers and I am a supporter of "The Cause" (I do not smoke myself) and I have gone on record publicly speaking for the right to grow and use at numerous county Board of Supervisor meetings.

 

[Typo]

Never heard of a black gay marriage endorsing president

 

[EnderJE]

Thank you. Oh, rest assured, I am a vehement "Standard Bearer" for the freedoms/liberties of the individual. My wife and I are MMJ growers and I am a supporter of "The Cause" (I do not smoke myself) and I have gone on record publicly speaking for the right to grow and use at numerous county Board of Supervisor meetings.

I'd be surprised if more people don't e-flirt with you after that post.

 

[simply dave]

Im sure jack steel wont be back soon

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I'm beginning to think you may be correct Nan. I was also going to ask him about his thoughts on the world's largest copper mine being in Afghanistan with China having all mineral rights and employing Chinese Nationals. Who's supplying the security? Why...The US Military of course.

Yeah....Foreign Policy, eh? All in the name of National Security, right? Give me a FUCKING BREAK!!!!

Anytime you're ready Jack...

 

[SpyWizard]

Update, who is the typical american democrat..

my father in law..

retired farmer votes the party line, no matter how hard he gets screwed over..

weekend after Barry came out of the closet i asked..

"So, how do you feel about support for same sex marriage"

his response

"that's too far"

me... so what will you do?? i know you won't vote for Romney...

he said

"I just won't vote"..

and thus ends Hope and change..

Catholic democrats are out of the election for Barry.. oh, does that include one of the largest Catholic Democratic populaces?? Spanish speaking???

 

[simply dave]

Update, who is the typical american democrat..

my father in law..

retired farmer votes the party line, no matter how hard he gets screwed over..

weekend after Barry came out of the closet i asked..

"So, how do you feel about support for same sex marriage"

his response

"that's too far"

me... so what will you do?? i know you won't vote for Romney...

he said

"I just won't vote"..

and thus ends Hope and change..

Catholic democrats are out of the election for Barry.. oh, does that include one of the largest Catholic Democratic populaces?? Spanish speaking???

And thus my problem with "progressive/liberals"...actually for the zombie, brain dead neo-cons for that matter...how does supporting same sex marriage impact your life?

Tell me...how does your FIL feel about decriminalizing marijuana?

 

[SpyWizard]

And thus my problem with "progressive/liberals"...actually for the zombie, brain dead neo-cons for that matter...how does supporting same sex marriage impact your life?

Tell me...how does your FIL feel about decriminalizing marijuana?

He doesn't care

 

[Jack steel]

Oh...I would so love to hear this. Do tell.

I'm not knowledgeable in foreign policy exactly. I won't be able to answer Your questions I'm sure. However I know Ron Paul had a policy more or less of isolationism and that will only hurt us in the Long run... As much of a loner as I am it's weird to say but I believe we keep a lot of the world stable as compared to what it could be if we withdrew and isolated ourselves. I agree with you about it being about money and power over all but We aren't completely selfish as a nation. Not that you asked my opinion but I'm a conservative who is non- Christian, doesn't care about marriage either way, and thinks Marijuana is mother natures miracle herb. It would single handedly bring us out of this recession. I also believe in this imperfect world, those who want peace should prepare for war.

 

[EnderJE]

I'm not knowledgeable in foreign policy exactly. I won't be able to answer Your questions I'm sure. However I know Ron Paul had a policy more or less of isolationism and that will only hurt us in the Long run... As much of a loner as I am it's weird to say but I believe we keep a lot of the world stable as compared to what it could be if we withdrew and isolated ourselves. I agree with you about it being about money and power over all but We aren't completely selfish as a nation. Not that you asked my opinion but I'm a conservative who is non- Christian, doesn't care about marriage either way, and thinks Marijuana is mother natures miracle herb. It would single handedly bring us out of this recession.

How would the isolationism policy hurt in the long run? In the end, the intent would be to remove the US influence from the foreign lands and to let them grow at their own pace. At the same time, it also means that any funding to those lands also stop. Once the social programs are re-aligned as well, this would mean that over 50-70 percent of the federal budget is dropped. This excess would be used to pay off the deficit. After about 10 - 20 years of this, the US would be debt free.

Wouldn't that be in the best interests of everyone?

 

[Jack steel]

Oh and all for "kony 2012" ! If we want money we should kill that SOB and get some free diamonds... Damn. He needs killin!

 

[Jack steel]

How would the isolationism policy hurt in the long run? In the end, the intent would be to remove the US influence from the foreign lands and to let them grow at their own pace. At the same time, it also means that any funding to those lands also stop. Once the social programs are re-aligned as well, this would mean that over 50-70 percent of the federal budget is dropped. This excess would be used to pay off the deficit. After about 10 - 20 years of this, the US would be debt free.

Wouldn't that be in the best interests of everyone?

In the mean time we have several radical nations just waiting for the right time to shed our infidel blood. It would decrease the deficit, but we'd also make ourselves vulnerable. Drill here for oil and grow industrial hemp and keep our strength up. We'll be raking in profits before we know it and have a surplus. Reinforce the borders and regulate and control cannabis.

PS. And legalize steroids for recreational use! ))

 

[EnderJE]

In the mean time we have several radical nations just waiting for the right time to shed our infidel blood. It would decrease the deficit, but we'd also make ourselves vulnerable. Drill here for oil and grow industrial hemp and keep our strength up. We'll be raking in profits before we know it and have a surplus. Reinforce the borders and regulate and control cannabis.

PS. And legalize steroids for recreational use! ))

If you leave some of those radical nations alone (and stop supporting Israel), they'll leave you alone.

Some will attack, but they will attack anyways (ie whether or not you're in there or not).

 

[Jack steel]

If you leave some of those radical nations alone (and stop supporting Israel), they'll leave you alone.

Some will attack, but they will attack anyways (ie whether or not you're in there or not).

There may be some countries who only want to kill us because we are there, but the radical islamic nations like Iran, and now probably Syria since the Muslim brotherhood is taking control there jus want us dead because they hate infidels and the west. Countless videos and speeches have revealed these leaders saying things that can't be confused. And what is the big problem with Israel??? Why not back them? They are a sovereign nation just like us and have the right to defend their culture and way of life just like Americans do. Venezuela I'm sure wouldn't mind backing any of these hateful nations either. Israel is attacked non-stop forever from all borders and they are successfully defending themselves. Why would you rather leave all the terrorists alone while you abandon one of our m ost trusted allies? Israelis are badass mofos and we could learn A LOT from them. I'd recommend not pissing them off. IMO we want them on our side in a war. Why back stab israel, really? Because of peer pressure from Islam? I think some people Think about how bad the world is and don't see it for how bad it COULD BE if we didnt do at least a little "world policing".

 

[brownbrown]

There may be some countries who only want to kill us because we are there, but the radical islamic nations like Iran, and now probably Syria since the Muslim brotherhood is taking control there jus want us dead because they hate infidels and the west.

Not entirely correct. Somewhat.....


DrOiD BioNiC EF App!

 

[Jack steel]

Not entirely correct. Somewhat.....


DrOiD BioNiC EF App!

What about THAT quote is incorrect?? Osama himself stated that whether we stay or go, they won't stop til they kill every Christian. If you're going to tell me I'm wrong, tell me how or you're not likely to be taken seriously... Umm unless you're a liberal that is. Also, the Muslim brotherhood is placing members in high places all over that new little regime. That whole part you quoted is fact unfortunately.

 

[EnderJE]

There may be some countries who only want to kill us because we are there, but the radical islamic nations like Iran, and now probably Syria since the Muslim brotherhood is taking control there jus want us dead because they hate infidels and the west. Countless videos and speeches have revealed these leaders saying things that can't be confused. And what is the big problem with Israel??? Why not back them? They are a sovereign nation just like us and have the right to defend their culture and way of life just like Americans do. Venezuela I'm sure wouldn't mind backing any of these hateful nations either. Israel is attacked non-stop forever from all borders and they are successfully defending themselves. Why would you rather leave all the terrorists alone while you abandon one of our m ost trusted allies? Israelis are badass mofos and we could learn A LOT from them. I'd recommend not pissing them off. IMO we want them on our side in a war. Why back stab israel, really? Because of peer pressure from Islam? I think some people Think about how bad the world is and don't see it for how bad it COULD BE if we didnt do at least a little "world policing".

What advantage do you see with backing Israel in the region? What direct goods or services to they provide and how does that compare with how much money is spent on them?

You want them on your side? They're on their OWN side. Besides, you could always glass the entire region.



How bad could it be? You have no idea how it will be. You have the fear mongering that has occurred over the past little while and the amount of blowback that has occurred over the years. I think that the US will save a boatload of money and get out of debt.


Take a look again at the Osama tapes. He said that he's attacking the US because they are getting in the Middle East. I've got no issue with defending a person's country but within the country.

Why do you want to be the world's police when there are problems in the backyard? Shouldn't they be taken care of first?

 

[EnderJE]

What about THAT quote is incorrect?? Osama himself stated that whether we stay or go, they won't stop til they kill every Christian. If you're going to tell me I'm wrong, tell me how or you're not likely to be taken seriously... Umm unless you're a liberal that is. Also, the Muslim brotherhood is placing members in high places all over that new little regime. That whole part you quoted is fact unfortunately.

"We reserve the right to retaliate... against all countries that take part in this unjust war, namely Britain, Spain, Australia, Poland, Japan and Italy."
- October 2003, from another audiotape obtained by Al-Jazeera, referring to the war in Iraq.


"I present a reconciliation initiative... whose essence is our commitment to stop operations against all (European) countries if they promise not to be aggressive towards Muslims or interfere in their affairs."
- April 2004, from an audio message obtained by the Al-Arabiya TV channel.


"The war is between us and the Jews. Any country that steps into the same trench as the Jews has only itself to blame."
- May 2002, from a video released to several news organisations.




I'm disappointed that you called him a liberal to discredit his point of view. It suggests that your point of view is more emotional vs logical / fact based There's no real point to discuss if you can't talk through the logic. We might as well be talking about God and other myths. Ah well.

 

[mrplunkey]

It always entertains me to hear about people wanting us to stay out of affairs in the middle east. It sounds a lot like code for abandoning our support for Israel.

Let me ask you this: Let's say we decided that on July 1, 2012, we were officially out of the ME. No more support, dollars, diplomacy... nothing. Yet we know multiple Arab nations have committed themselves to the eradication of Israel. At least a couple of countries still consider themselves at war with Israel. So if on July 2, 2012 the Israelis launched a 14-city thermonuclear attack and killed 75% of the ME's Arab population, would you still be OK with our hands-off policy? Should we just let boys be boys?

 

[simply dave]

Hey Jack...You admitted to not knowing foreign policy, yet you continually post statements based upon falsehoods and conjecture. May I offer you some sage advice...

"Tis better to shut one's mouth and thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."

 

[EnderJE]

It always entertains me to hear about people wanting us to stay out of affairs in the middle east. It sounds a lot like code for abandoning our support for Israel.

Let me ask you this: Let's say we decided that on July 1, 2012, we were officially out of the ME. No more support, dollars, diplomacy... nothing. Yet we know multiple Arab nations have committed themselves to the eradication of Israel. At least a couple of countries still consider themselves at war with Israel. So if on July 2, 2012 the Israelis launched a 14-city thermonuclear attack and killed 75% of the ME's Arab population, would you still be OK with our hands-off policy? Should we just let boys be boys?

You know me. No issue. It's the same way that I would prefer people leaving Africa alone.

It sounds like you want to get involved. This seems different from you. Where would the money for this adventure come from?

 

[brownbrown]

but the radical islamic nations like Iran,
Countless videos and speeches have revealed these leaders .

Iran is not a Radical Islam nation. You ever been there? They are heavily westernized.
Yes there are a lot of Iranians that Do not like America. Why? Because they were a democratic government until America propped up a Dictator.
The LEADERSHIP of Iran is radical. The Ayatollah runs shit. A direct result of America.

All those countless videos are from the Dictating leaders of these countries. NOT the people. These leaders are NOT voted in as a result of the peoples ideals.


Just like the N.Korean leader. No one talks about how radical Kin Jun IL/Un was/is, because they cant blame it on Islam.
They just say that they are "crazy". Without pointing out that They are religiously insane.
And you can check that and see what im talking about.

Thats why its wrong Jack.

 

[brownbrown]

No we don't. If you think this is socialist wait and see what happens if Obama wins again ( which he won't). Obama supporters have nothing to stand on anymore. He's indefensible and they have no other weapon but ignorant insults and steering around the topic at hand... But what else is new with liberals??

Do I really have to explain Socialism to you?
I'll give you an example. You pay taxes. Relying on someone else to use said cash to do something for you.

Dude here's a simple read for you

→→Explanation of Socialism←←

 

[dallasboy]

Let's get back on track here.

Odumbo is buying votes. Which is the only way the democrats get votes. Here is how:

1. Racism (everyone is a racist if they don't vote democrat. More common is when dens can't win an argument they call you a racists).

2. Class warfare. The elitist lefties who have millions of dollars themselves want to demonize hard working and risk taking Americans.

3. Union circle jerks. The criminal racketeering job of union money for democrat votes for exchange of the rape of the public treasury (insane salaries and pensions). The private tax payer is waking up to this fraud that had been going on for decades. Even the beloved JFK warned about this. If this was going on in the private sector, we would need to build more prisons.

4. Guberment handouts. 50% do not pay fed taxes. The dems figured out a long time ago, the more peeps on the federal dole, the more votes. Woodrow Wilson was our for socialist President. LBJ is what really fucked us.

 

[brownbrown]

Let's get back on track here.

Odumbo is buying votes. Which is the only way the democrats get votes. Here is how:

1. Racism (everyone is a racist if they don't vote democrat. More common is when dens can't win an argument they call you a racists).

Heresay, and exactly the same as not voting GOP means you're Socialist/Marxist/Communist

2. Class warfare. The elitist lefties who have millions of dollars themselves want to demonize hard working and risk taking Americans.

And the elitist righties aren't spending 10's of millions on Romney? One donor said 100 million is totally possible just from him

3. Union circle jerks. The criminal racketeering job of union money for democrat votes for exchange of the rape of the public treasury (insane salaries and pensions). The private tax payer is waking up to this fraud that had been going on for decades. Even the beloved JFK warned about this. If this was going on in the private sector, we would need to build more prisons.

So the worker cant have a board and negotiate price like the Ceo's board? Lets let the corporations decide what to pay workers.... And see how that works out.

4. Guberment handouts. 50% do not pay fed taxes. The dems figured out a long time ago, the more peeps on the federal dole, the more votes. Woodrow Wilson was our for socialist President. LBJ is what really fucked us.

Corporations are taking 200 billion a year in hadouts, who's that hurt?

your post was hilarious

 

[dallasboy]

5. Illegal immigration votes.

Lets understand what the dems want: They want full control of your lives. No sodas, etc. More taxes to the elite few.

The other piece is this: The dems DO NOT want their voting base to succeed. They have to shove down their throats the same f&&cking story of class warfare, racism, union blowjobs, illegal voted - year after year.

The democrats are like the eight graders who never few up. Gossiping in the hallway and acting like victims instead of leaders.

You can pick out a democrat by looking at them. They are betas and look like they r about to cry. Play the victim role instead of a leader role.

The next revolution will be the majority of this great Country who get tired of the liberal mantras.

 

[simply dave]

Let's get back on track here.

Odumbo is buying votes. Which is the only way the democrats get votes. Here is how:

1. Racism (everyone is a racist if they don't vote democrat. More common is when dens can't win an argument they call you a racists).

2. Class warfare. The elitist lefties who have millions of dollars themselves want to demonize hard working and risk taking Americans.

3. Union circle jerks. The criminal racketeering job of union money for democrat votes for exchange of the rape of the public treasury (insane salaries and pensions). The private tax payer is waking up to this fraud that had been going on for decades. Even the beloved JFK warned about this. If this was going on in the private sector, we would need to build more prisons.

4. Guberment handouts. 50% do not pay fed taxes. The dems figured out a long time ago, the more peeps on the federal dole, the more votes. Woodrow Wilson was our for socialist President. LBJ is what really fucked us.

This doesn't even warrant a response. You my friend are the typical dumbass Umerikun.

Do the rest of us a favor...don't breed and don't vote for GAWD's sake...verstehen sie das?

 

[mrplunkey]

You know me. No issue. It's the same way that I would prefer people leaving Africa alone.

It sounds like you want to get involved. This seems different from you. Where would the money for this adventure come from?

I'm fine with not spending money on Israel. But if we sever ties, it isn't fair to either:

1) ask them to do dirty work for us.

Or

2) bitch if they go on an ass-kicking spree.

 

[simply dave]

George Washington's Farewell Speech...Those here who feel that it's our responsibility/duty to meddle in the affairs of sovereign nations may want to read this and take note. This is also the identical foreign policy that Ron Paul would adopt; hardly a foreign policy based upon isolationism...

Observe good faith and justice towards all nations; cultivate peace and harmony with all...

In the execution of such a plan, nothing is more essential than that permanent, inveterate antipathies against particular nations, and passionate attachments for others, should be excluded; and that, in place of them, just and amicable feelings towards all should be cultivated....

The nation, prompted by ill-will and resentment, sometimes impels to war the government, contrary to the best calculations of policy. The government sometimes participates in the national propensity, and adopts through passion what reason would reject; at other times it makes the animosity of the nation subservient to projects of hostility instigated by pride, ambition, and other sinister and pernicious motives. The peace often, sometimes perhaps the liberty, of nations, has been the victim.

As avenues to foreign influence in innumerable ways, such attachments are particularly alarming to the truly enlightened and independent patriot. How many opportunities do they afford to tamper with domestic factions, to practice the arts of seduction, to mislead public opinion, to influence or awe the public councils. Such an attachment of a small or weak towards a great and powerful nation dooms the former to be the satellite of the latter.

Against the insidious wiles of foreign influence (I conjure you to believe me, fellow-citizens) the jealousy of a free people ought to be constantly awake, since history and experience prove that foreign influence is one of the most baneful foes of republican government. But that jealousy to be useful must be impartial; else it becomes the instrument of the very influence to be avoided, instead of a defense against it. Excessive partiality for one foreign nation and excessive dislike of another cause those whom they actuate to see danger only on one side, and serve to veil and even second the arts of influence on the other. Real patriots who may resist the intrigues of the favorite are liable to become suspected and odious, while its tools and dupes usurp the applause and confidence of the people, to surrender their interests.

The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little political connection as possible. So far as we have already formed engagements, let them be fulfilled with perfect good faith. Here let us stop.


It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world

Harmony, liberal intercourse with all nations, are recommended by policy, humanity, and interest. But even our commercial policy should hold an equal and impartial hand; neither seeking nor granting exclusive favors or preferences; consulting the natural course of things; diffusing and diversifying by gentle means the streams of commerce, but forcing nothing

 

[-SD-]

George Washington's Farewell Speech...Those here who feel that it's our responsibility/duty to meddle in the affairs of sovereign nations may want to read this and take note. This is also the identical foreign policy that Ron Paul would adopt; hardly a foreign policy based upon isolationism...

Nah brah, thats outdated, just like the constitution, gotta fuck with it and tinker around with it since its a living breathing document and shit

 

[EnderJE]

I'm fine with not spending money on Israel. But if we sever ties, it isn't fair to either:

1) ask them to do dirty work for us.

Or

2) bitch if they go on an ass-kicking spree.

Absolutely.

If ties are severed, then I would expect them to do what's in their best interest.

 

[Jack steel]

I may be confusing Syria with Egypt on the Muslim brotherhood thing. So much going on lately.

 

[Jack steel]

Absolutely.

If ties are severed, then I would expect them to do what's in their best interest.

Ya. I agree. I just think it would be pretty shitty to cut ties right now. They may hold their ground but geez, it's like throwing them to rabid dogs. I think being allies with Israel pays for itself personally.

 

[shirlene29]

Im gonna need to see a pic of you w/o shorts on...tyia

 

[dallasboy]

This doesn't even warrant a response. You my friend are the typical dumbass Umerikun.

Do the rest of us a favor...don't breed and don't vote for GAWD's sake...verstehen sie das?

Really asshole?

All my points are valid. Take your view and vote odumbo and reap the rewards later.

You represent the idiots of this County who need people to tell you what to do.

You got anymore problems with understanding the democrat liars, come to TX or OK and we will talk.

 

[simply dave]

Really asshole?

All my points are valid. Take your view and vote odumbo and reap the rewards later.

You represent the idiots of this County who need people to tell you what to do.

You got anymore problems with understanding the democrat liars, come to TX or OK and we will talk.

Heh...Must've hit a nerve. Clearly not a synapse because there's a draft between those ears. I don't need to explain what a synapse is, do I son?

 

[dallasboy]

Here we go. Why do the Muslims who have been in constant fear under dictators?? Give credit to the Iraq policy of Bush. Put a free nation in the heart of the rats nest of the region and freedom will win!!

I am tired of hearing about this. Are you? Why can't they rise up and take control ?

Europe and the USA did it a long time ago.

Liberating Iraq led to others.

 

[dallasboy]

You still can't refute the 5 reasons of the lame democrats.

You can tell a dem when they walk in the room:

About to cry and play the victim role.

Cali is broke and a socialist nation who has been raped by the public sector unions (maybe u r involved). The private sector is leaving in droves.

I say we saw off Cali and sell it to China. Still wouldn't satisfy the debts.

 

[SpyWizard]

With the Muslim Brotherhood taking control of Egypt *a nuclear power, the end is very near, within the next 2 yrs..

 

[dallasboy]

With the Muslim Brotherhood taking control of Egypt *a nuclear power, the end is very near, within the next 2 yrs..

The MB is what obmbo wants. Too bad the dumbest of the dumb vote democrat.

But, Egypt does not have nukes.

 

[SpyWizard]

i said a nuclear power, not a nuclear warhead program.. they simply have the means..

Egypt has not engaged in significant efforts to develop a nuclear weapons capability. Evidently Egypt has decided to concentrate on increasing conventional forces, and chemical and biological weapons, rather than developing nuclear weapons.

The Egyptian nuclear program was launched in 1954. Egypt acquired its first nuclear reactor from the Soviet Union in 1961. The two megawatt reactor was opened by President Gamal Abdel-Nasser at Inchass, in the Nile Delta. The Soviets controlled the disposal of this small nuclear research reactor's spent fuel, which in any event was not capable of producing a significant amount of weapons-grade material. Egyptian nuclear ambitions were discarded following the 1967 defeat at the hands of Israel. Egypt signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) in 1968 but delayed ratifying it, presumably because the government had evidence that Israel had embarked on a nuclear weapons program. Subsequently, Egypt lost many of its nuclear experts who had to travel abroad to seek work opportunities. Some emigrated to Canada and others joined the Iraqi nuclear program.

At the same time, however, serious work on developing nuclear potential designated for use in power engineering, agriculture, medicine, biotechnology, and genetics continues. Industrial incorporation of four explored uranium deposits is planned, including the extraction and enrichment of uranium for subsequent use as fuel for atomic power plants.

In 1975, the United States agreed in principle on a program to supply Egypt with power reactors. The US promised to provide Egypt with eight nuclear power plants and the necessary cooperation agreements were signed. The plan was subject to a trilateral safeguards agreement signed by the United States, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), and Egypt. In the late 1970s, the US unilaterally revised the bilateral agreements and introduced new conditions that were unacceptable to the Egyptian government. As a result, the decision was taken to ratify the NPT, with one goal in mind -- the implementation of a nuclear power program.

Although financing problems stalled construction of power reactors from the United States, Egypt ratified the NPT in 1981, in order to be able to conclude agreements with other countries for the construction of atomic energy-production facilities. Before his assassination in 1981, President Anwar Sadat announced plans to build two nuclear power stations along the Mediterranean coast. However, these plans were subsequently shelved. There are (poorly attested) reports that Egypt is planning a Chinese-made power reactor, variously assessed at between 300 MW and 600 MW, that could have the capacity to produce material for the production of as many as four nuclear warheads a month. Egypt is believed to be seeking joint nuclear weapons research with Syria and Saudi Arabia to defray costs and allow Egypt to continue its conventional military buildup.

In early 1992, a deal was made for Argentina to deliver one more reactor with a capacity of 22 megawatts to Egypt. The contract signed in 1991 for the delivery to Egypt of a Russian MGD-20 cyclotron accelerator remains in force. Since 1990 Egypt has been a member of the Arab Power Engineering Organization uniting 11 countries. A number of Egyptian scientific projects are being carried out under the aegis of the IAEA. There are bilateral agreements in the area of the peaceful use of atomic energy with Germany, the United States, Russia, India, China, and Argentina. There are, moreover, agreements with Great Britain and India to provide assistance in training national cadres for scientific research and work on the country's atomic enterprises.

Egypt has subscribed to the NPT. Since 1974, Egypt has taken the initiative of proposing to render the Middle East nuclear-weapons free zone, calling all countries in the region without exception to join the NPT. In April 1990, Egypt took the initiative to render the Middle East free of weapons of mass destruction. The 1991 Madrid Peace Conference established a multinational mechanism to work on making the Middle East a nuclear weapon-free zone. This mechanism, however, stalled three years ago as a result of the Israeli position. Egypt hosted in April 1996 the conference for signing the declaration on rendering Africa a nuclear-weapons free zone.

In late 2004 and early 2005, the IAEA investigated previously undisclosed experiments performed by Egyptian scientists involving uranium metal.

However, the IAEA concluded that the undisclosed experiments performed in Egypt were minor in nature and not substantial enough for the IAEA to feel compelled to take action against Egypt. Egypt was cooperative with the IAEA during the investigation and since then, the IAEA has not had any noted issues with Egypt.

In 2007, President Hosni Mubarak announced plans to relaunch Egypt’s civilian nuclear power program with the construction of four nuclear power plants under IAEA supervision. On August 25, 2010, President Mubarak announced that the IAEA had approved the Al-Dabaa site along the Mediterranean Coast as an acceptable site for Egypt to build its first nuclear power plant. However, the 2011 Egyptian Revolution and Mubarak’s subsequent removal from power have put these plans on hold.

 

[simply dave]

Here we go. Why do the Muslims who have been in constant fear under dictators?? Give credit to the Iraq policy of Bush. Put a free nation in the heart of the rats nest of the region and freedom will win!!

I am tired of hearing about this. Are you? Why can't they rise up and take control ?

Europe and the USA did it a long time ago.

Liberating Iraq led to others.

You are a tool...Wake up son...Jesus...I am gonna have to beat you over the head with a smart stick, ain't I boy? Let's see if you're smart enough to connect the dots...

 

[simply dave]

(maybe u r involved).

Oh...I see we have linguistic scholar here. LOL.

 

[simply dave]

The MB is what obmbo wants. Too bad the dumbest of the dumb vote democrat.

But, Egypt does not have nukes.

**sigh** Not sure why I should even bother. Obama wants the MB? Are you for real? The Right and the Left want the MB!!! WAKE THE FUCK UP!!! Both sides want instability in the region fercrissakes! If the dumbest of the dumb are voting Dem, the every bit as dumb as the dumbest of the dumb are voting Rep. Lemme guess...You "lerned" your politics from your daddy and TV, yeah? Ever bother to crack open a book that wasn't written my Beck, Limbaugh, or O'Reilly? Probably not. You're way out of your league kiddo.

 

[dallasboy]

You are a tool...Wake up son...Jesus...I am gonna have to beat you over the head with a smart stick, ain't I boy? Let's see if you're smart enough to connect the dots...

Wow. Really. You are hell bent about this.

What do we disagree about ? Democrats ? Service ?

 

[simply dave]

Wow. Really. You are hell bent about this.

What do we disagree about ? Democrats ? Service ?

Just as I thought. You cannot connect the dots. Ignorance is bliss. God Bless Texas.

 

[dallasboy]

**sigh** Not sure why I should even bother. Obama wants the MB? Are you for real? The Right and the Left want the MB!!! WAKE THE FUCK UP!!! Both sides want instability in the region fercrissakes! If the dumbest of the dumb are voting Dem, the every bit as dumb as the dumbest of the dumb are voting Rep. Lemme guess...You "lerned" your politics from your daddy and TV, yeah? Ever bother to crack open a book that wasn't written my Beck, Limbaugh, or O'Reilly? Probably not. You're way out of your league kiddo.

I learned a lot from my Dad. He died 2.5 years ago. Green beret, which is rare. You can FUCK OFF!!!

You keep talking a lot of shit. I'm older than you, live in Dallas, from Oklahoma City. You want to continue your shit, bring it to Dallas.

And "lerned" is really "learned". Is that the democrat or illegal way to spell it? Or the California way? Boxer and nancy?

Bring your shit to Dallas and u will not last 4 mins.

Let me know asshole.

 

[PICK3]

I learned a lot from my Dad. He died 2.5 years ago. Green beret, which is rare. You can FUCK OFF!!!

You keep talking a lot of shit. I'm older than you, live in Dallas, from Oklahoma City. You want to continue your shit, bring it to Dallas.

And "lerned" is really "learned". Is that the democrat or illegal way to spell it? Or the California way? Boxer and nancy?

Bring your shit to Dallas and u will not last 4 mins.

Let me know asshole.

u mad?

 

[dallasboy]

The main point is that odumbo will be overturned Thursday.

 

[dallasboy]

The main point is that odumbo will be overturned Thursday.

And everyone here who values there health and keeps their health in tow do not want obamacare.