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Columbia Professor Joseph Stiglitz: The ?American Dream? Is a Myth
social/financial inequality growing
Columbia Professor Joseph Stiglitz: The ?American Dream? Is a Myth
social/financial inequality growing
The American dream is a myth....
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hey canadian...send me some money for new boobs...I have qt-nv
Im punching myself in the face so fucking hard right now
Because you let Jon79 gamble your money away?
Im feeling some wealth disparity
mrplunkey
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That guy is 100% dead-on accurate.
We shouldn't focus on wealth inequality. That will always exist.
We should focus on opportunity equality. There will always be some, but we've screwed-up the mechanism that lets the mighty fall and the meek rise.
1) Dismantle our nationalized public education system. There isn't a scenario we could try that would be any worse than what we have now.
2) Engage in insane amounts of deregulation. For 50-person or less companies, let's wipe out 98%+ of the regulations. For 50-250 person firms, lets wipe out 80%.
3) Radically re-engineer our tax system. Let's be other countries' tax havens for a few decades.
4) Downsize our gubment at least 75% (I'd prefer more)
Do that, and we're one to two generations away from owning this entire planet.
We shouldn't focus on wealth inequality. That will always exist.
We should focus on opportunity equality. There will always be some, but we've screwed-up the mechanism that lets the mighty fall and the meek rise.
1) Dismantle our nationalized public education system. There isn't a scenario we could try that would be any worse than what we have now.
2) Engage in insane amounts of deregulation. For 50-person or less companies, let's wipe out 98%+ of the regulations. For 50-250 person firms, lets wipe out 80%.
3) Radically re-engineer our tax system. Let's be other countries' tax havens for a few decades.
4) Downsize our gubment at least 75% (I'd prefer more)
Do that, and we're one to two generations away from owning this entire planet.
Ive pissed more money than that away on much less. Not like its a shitton of cash
mrplunkey
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More doom and gloom.
The two seem to be connected no? The former from a "countdown to extinction" type site, and the latter from a completely unrelated nerdy tech site, both settling on a similar scenario. I do think we need to curb our current population trend though. Maybe not as severely as they say, but still.
The two seem to be connected no? The former from a "countdown to extinction" type site, and the latter from a completely unrelated nerdy tech site, both settling on a similar scenario. I do think we need to curb our current population trend though. Maybe not as severely as they say, but still.
mrplunkey
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They're doing really well.
The wife lost a fair (but not terrible) amount of blood during the procedure and her platelets were low going in.
So she's light-headed, weak and has headaches but it's getting vastly better by the day. We've got full-time support from an incredible midwife from 9pm to 9am, so she gets to sleep.
I'm ready to get 2-3 days past today. The good news is the children are doing incredibly well. I'll post a few vids soon.
PICK3
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heard sum of it on the radio on the way home today
“The chances of someone from the top [income bracket] who doesn’t do very well in school are better than someone from the bottom who does well in school.”
PICK3
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hope Mrs Plunkey feels better soon
mrplunkey
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PICK3
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uamaverick
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Mitt Romney will make everything better.
Since the typical American these days is 40lbs overweight, has $50,000 in credit card debt, and takes 3 long-term medications (including at least one anti-depresant) I'd say the American dream is seriously derailed.
People need to stop expecting entitlements and take responsiblity to manage their own lives.
People need to stop expecting entitlements and take responsiblity to manage their own lives.
mrplunkey
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And incredibly entitled.
Headholio
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Funny how you are right for once, but only because you don't understand his point of view.
Your suggestions are incredibly short sighted, as follows:
From the article:
So, of course we have to focus on this. Income inequality will always exist, but the trend is toward third world. Why not let the top .1% triple their holdings again? Because then there will be nothing left for anyone else. Third world.
So you think that letting a few hundred people have everything somehow creates opportunity. And taking away public eduction creates opportunity. Nope.
You are completely warped. The mighty fall? The mighty have become the super mighty. The meek haven't risen, the meek have been squashed. What planet are we talking about here?
The US public education system could definitely use improvement, but its not that bad. Different ranking systems usually put it between 10th and 20th in the world. (that's better than our health care rankings for example).
All the countries ahead of us have public systems. ALL. The problem isn't public education, the problem is lack of priority.
Anti-government paranoia now has republicans trying to dismantle our education system, so they can make it fail, and then blame the fact that its government.
Public education needs funding and more national priority, that's all.
To beat the impending inequality collapse, we need greater educational opportunity for more, and lower income, people. Republicans hate that. They fight for the rich. Privatizing education is exclusionary, and does the opposite of creating "opportunity equality". Once again, a third world ideal.
Yeah lets let companies put false ingredients on their labels. Lets let them pack food without sanitary conditions. So costly! Lets let them build any kind of crap without zoning. Lets stop making them clean up the pollution they create. Cleaning up is so anti-profit! Lets let banks forclose without due process, and lie about loan conditions to customers. Let's let companies scrap their safety programs, and of course they should scrap their workers comp insurance too. Its much better to replace injured workers with new ones instead of dealing with their crap.
All these expensive things are so so bad for corporate executives! Once again, a glaring example of the radical right's effort to sacrifice the american public for the sake of the wealthy.
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Yeah lets. Let's get the revenue from the top (where all the money is) to fund the things a country needs to be a a great country.
Until we are third world. Crappy ideas.
Our parents went to school on the G.I. bill, graduated debt-free, paid cash for a car, bought the house they needed, saved and bought their dream home at retirement.
We go to college on credit, take out a loan for a car; buy as much home as our credit will allow us then wonder why the hell we can't save for retirement.
I'm thinking seriously about buying a home on the dark side of town (still a nice area) simply because I could get a nice home well under $100K and sink $25K into reno.
We go to college on credit, take out a loan for a car; buy as much home as our credit will allow us then wonder why the hell we can't save for retirement.
I'm thinking seriously about buying a home on the dark side of town (still a nice area) simply because I could get a nice home well under $100K and sink $25K into reno.
idk...I didn't go to school on credit..may have to this go around but am going to try not to
I own all my cars outright and I dont give a shit if anyone thinks theyre old and or junk..I will avoid a car loan like you wouldn't believe
I bought my first house with cash and to be totally honest it was a dump with big headaches and big bills and I happened to be at the right place at the right time to buy it
but since moving and being in a more affluent area...our mortgage is big but not outrageous (still under 2k a month) and I do now have credit card debt for the first time in my life (still under 20k)..but honestly its because we decided while the house was torn apart it should get upgraded as much as we could afford ..including one necc upgrade of a new well
but idk....I look at some stuff and wonder if its worth the stress...
I start training on wednesday for a third shift janitorial job (no joke) because the pay is good, the hours are actually very short and easy and it helps me pay off the debt we have faster (all total 40k in debt that needs to be addressed to be 100% back on track) and it keeps my families standard of living and allows me to go back to school
but should I be living in benz and bmw and mansion country and working as a janitor third shift? is it worth it?
we live in one of the four towns in "the valley" which is generally considered stepford/snobville but we picked the town with the lowest taxes that still had a competitive school system...
so...some smart choices, some maybe bad ones
idk
I own all my cars outright and I dont give a shit if anyone thinks theyre old and or junk..I will avoid a car loan like you wouldn't believe
I bought my first house with cash and to be totally honest it was a dump with big headaches and big bills and I happened to be at the right place at the right time to buy it
but since moving and being in a more affluent area...our mortgage is big but not outrageous (still under 2k a month) and I do now have credit card debt for the first time in my life (still under 20k)..but honestly its because we decided while the house was torn apart it should get upgraded as much as we could afford ..including one necc upgrade of a new well
but idk....I look at some stuff and wonder if its worth the stress...
I start training on wednesday for a third shift janitorial job (no joke) because the pay is good, the hours are actually very short and easy and it helps me pay off the debt we have faster (all total 40k in debt that needs to be addressed to be 100% back on track) and it keeps my families standard of living and allows me to go back to school
but should I be living in benz and bmw and mansion country and working as a janitor third shift? is it worth it?
we live in one of the four towns in "the valley" which is generally considered stepford/snobville but we picked the town with the lowest taxes that still had a competitive school system...
so...some smart choices, some maybe bad ones
idk
I was thinkin of adding hydros
That's one hell of an Idea
mistaballoonhands
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And u would blend in
People who used the GI Bill earned it. You can still earn it, or do ROTC or a service academy. Full scholarship to college. I got it, saved 44k x 4 years.
no one said they didn't dude
mistaballoonhands
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Great first post!
That will help your mental anguish
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