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Stero is a good bro! Your legs don't look that bad either. I know you are worried about losing size and to be honest I would be too. Bodybuilding has alot to do with vanity and I truly understand. Although the people who care about me would much rather me look smaller and live than to be a swole corpse bro. I think running any AAS right now is asking for it. How much size will you really lose if you do a proper PCT and diet and train hard like you were on? 5-10 lbs? Hardly worth dying over. Mitch is being a dick which is why I love him. :rainbow: (No Hetero) but the son of a bitch has a point.

some days i wish i could be happy without lifting weights and all the bs that comes with it (joose, tanning lol, supplementing, not going places cause you don't want to miss workouts, etc)
i know plenty of healthy folks who don't do any of this shit and are just as happy and athletic...sadly i don't think i can ever be one of them
 
Alright plank so you throw up a pic after I did my very first cycle of sust ever.

Here's a pic from November like 3 weeks into my test,tren,primo cycle View attachment 53453

That pic I posted you posted 11/25...


Regardless, for you to have nearly been dieting and training for close to 10 years your results aren't all that impressive especially with having have used the amount of gear you have.

Look bro...continue to do whatever in teh fuck you wanna do. Nobody here is going to change your mind. We're all just showing concern for you and thinking that even if your life isn't all that important to you it pry is to your family. At the end of the day what you do isn't going to effect me one way or another and I won't lose a wink of sleep over it. I think most everyone that has shown concern for you is quite a bit older and obviously a hell of a lot more mature. You're obviously one of those people that is going to have to learn the hard way.
 
some days i wish i could be happy without lifting weights and all the bs that comes with it (joose, tanning lol, supplementing, not going places cause you don't want to miss workouts, etc)
i know plenty of healthy folks who don't do any of this shit and are just as happy and athletic...sadly i don't think i can ever be one of them

Agreed! We sacrifice alot in order to be able to do this. I could just as easily see myself in this situation and not wanting to stop. I hope people would e-slap my ass back to reality like Mitch is trying to do until I saw that it really just isn't worth it. I feel you bro! All the shit we miss does kinda suck. I can't even fuking remember what McDonalds tastes like. Lmao:worried:
 
well, calling him a faggot seemed a bit much.
and clearly the bro has some substance issues, only somebody with such issues would continue to use them knowing that his heart could be dramatically effected.

AAS are extremely addictive, psychologically and physiologically. There is the simple withdrawal depression caused by reduced circulating T, but "manorexia/bigorexia" is a very real and serious problem.

Eating disorders, aforementioned included, have the highest mortality rate of any mental illness (approximately 20%... that's higher than schizophrenia... in fact, it's higher than many cancers).

So yeah, that's why I myself am concerned. And yes, we are on an online forum and people have the right to make their own decisions but I'm certainly not going to nod and affirm just to make someone feel better or "fit in".

Bodybuilding with AAS is a lot like surfing big waves. Everyone knows it's dangerous. It's not for everyone and some people choose to take risks because they choose to live their lives that way. Fine. I get it. Trust me. But if I were a surfer I wouldn't let my buddy go out with a broken board and a bleeding leg wound. This is the difference between calculated risk and recklessness.

Choosing to continue to dose your own gear right now is not HRT, bro... It seems to fall more on the side of reckless. I agree. You sound addicted. What are you gonna do about it?
 
well, calling him a faggot seemed a bit much.
and clearly the bro has some substance issues, only somebody with such issues would continue to use them knowing that his heart could be dramatically effected.

lol..did you forget where you were?
 
AAS are extremely addictive, psychologically and physiologically. There is the simple withdrawal depression caused by reduced circulating T, but "manorexia/bigorexia" is a very real and serious problem.

I'm not disagreeing w/the fact they can by physchologically addictive, but there has to be an underlying issue already in place, right?
 
well, calling him a faggot seemed a bit much.
and clearly the bro has some substance issues, only somebody with such issues would continue to use them knowing that his heart could be dramatically effected.

also...yeah, if he's got an addiction he needs to seek help not try and self medicate thinking he's helping the situation. He's being a fuckin idiot, and i'm not one to sugar coat shit.

you still :heart: me tho..right bro :worried:
 
I'm not disagreeing w/the fact they can by physchologically addictive, but there has to be an underlying issue already in place, right?

I don't think so. No.

Testosterone has been used historically as an antidepressant. It's psychological effects are enormous. Just because a lot of it hasn't been thoroughly researched doesn't mean it's not real.
 
AAS are extremely addictive, psychologically and physiologically. There is the simple withdrawal depression caused by reduced circulating T, but "manorexia/bigorexia" is a very real and serious problem.

Eating disorders, aforementioned included, have the highest mortality rate of any mental illness (approximately 20%... that's higher than schizophrenia... in fact, it's higher than many cancers).

So yeah, that's why I myself am concerned. And yes, we are on an online forum and people have the right to make their own decisions but I'm certainly not going to nod and affirm just to make someone feel better or "fit in".

Bodybuilding with AAS is a lot like surfing big waves. Everyone knows it's dangerous. It's not for everyone and some people choose to take risks because they choose to live their lives that way. Fine. I get it. Trust me. But if I were a surfer I wouldn't let my buddy go out with a broken board and a bleeding leg wound. This is the difference between calculated risk and recklessness.

Choosing to continue to dose your own gear right now is not HRT, bro... It seems to fall more on the side of reckless. I agree. You sound addicted. What are you gonna do about it?

Please show me some references showing AAS use is physiologically addictive.

Just when I thought you couldn't get any dumber...lol
 
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