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PUA world, what is that?
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lartinos
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Show people here some woman you have pulled. What do you look like even..
thelocal
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man i dont keep pictures of them..most are one night stands..all im about not trying to settle down or meet one chick more then once...ha great thing is can take the ugliest dude in the world thats fat and make him a pimp..looks have nothing to do with it..just basically a math formula..psychology
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lartinos
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When did you perfect this science of yours? What are some tips you can give to others?
WoodyO
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thelocal
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Hey man,I didn't make it up r anything I just read a book,and it all made sense.im not a master at it lol but one day maybe who knows?
Ill go into some detail but not all because it soo much to type out
anybody ever seen the pickupartist on VH1? with Mystery?well he is who got me started and got me to thinking,read his books and it just works man the "game" he lays out is flawless just we and I fuck it up
Well Ill tell you how to open a set and I'll lay it out as if im teaching somebody that has no skills or has bad SA(social Anxiety).
A1=opening a set,a single or set of girls/guys
And ima refer to day game because day game requires more skill..when your out at a club that gives you a reason to talk to a chick IMO..Everyone's out to do one thing..PARTY..HAVE FUN
but in day game if you approach a girl shes going to think a few things..1)Why are you talking to me?2)I cant wait for you to leave.3)Oh look im being hit on by another loser..
that's if you approach here like ever other dude on the planet ..they are refered to as AFC=average frustrated chumps
So first lets take a look at HOW to approach women in the day weather its at a mall,coffee shop,airport,etc whatever
first your looking around trying to find a target looking for a hottie..BOOM you see one shes walking your way .NOW what do I do?
Well first Ill tell you what not to do..Dont approach her straight on squared off..WHY?because when you do she will feel a number of things(Private space invaded,know your trying to hit on her then she throws that self defense wall up,intimidated,threatened)
So how do you approach her..The rule is to make it look SPONTANEOUS..So your walking right by her and you talk over your shoulder to her(this way she doesn't feel ALL the above,your not in her space) .Then you run your opener,aka canned material ..a common opener is
"Hey quick question,I was just on the phone with my friend and his g/f found a box under his bed,full of pictures of EX g/fs..shes like burn them now! or were done..Is that normal?"
ITs beat to use an open ended question so she can put her input in..and like I said you have to make it look like you just had this question run threw your mind and she HAPPENED to be walking by you so you figure youd ask her...
Then from this you bodyrock use an FTC=False Time constraint ..an ftc is something like this.."Hey I cant stay long I have to get back to my friends"
After you say that you body rock out and you just completed A1..Now if your new A1 will not get you her number or laid by itself thats just to get you to get over your fear of talking to chicks
And something I forgot to mention when your talking over your shoulder to her..DONT reposition yourself and square off until AFTER she has done it first ,then that gives you the ok..She doesn't even know or realize this but she feels non threatened when she does this
and thats basically how to open a set..talk from your diaphragm..talk with passion..use emphasis,be interesting,intriguing,unlike ever other guy.
then after A1 we would stack to A2,A3,C1,S1 you just stack that shit..and it doesn't matter what she says or how she responded really ..just run a tight game
like i said lol doing A1 alone will not get your penis inside her
the whole idea of the bodyrock and FTC is that you make her think "O this guy isnt hitting on me ,I can talk to him for a min ,he said hes about to leave anyway)
bwhahahhahahahahahahahahahahhhahahahahh
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lartinos
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If it works for you great. Seems like it would come off a bit contrived to me personally doing it like that.
I get hit on woman and gays and it is honestly an awkward experience. Because I am straight number one and woman know I am engaged and they still talk to me in front of my fiance. People on multiple occasions in the last year have wanted to "swing" as well lol.
Picking up woman is more of a philosophy and not a plan that this dood has put out. But I am sure it works for people. I think plans can give confidence and that can help without a doubt.
you've got a feminine face bro. look like you could be gay.
wow what a creepy approach
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lartinos
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Thank you Homo spotting expert.
I am actually just a nice guy and people get the wrong idea.
I do not think I am as good looking as the attention I get.
My friend thinks it has to do with how I am close with my fiance, makes other girls jealous. They start shit with her, happened in Mexico recently.
This girl started dancing right in front of me. Then she came back with her friend both doing it, my fiance grabbed me and we walked away. She was mad..
I have another story from that trip that is similar, I will just share that one though.
lololololol. I'm just bullshittin bro. I get that shit sometimes too.
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lartinos
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I know you are man
This guy on Dr. Phil right now likes to wear onesy's (sp) and diapers WTF
Why? because the guy is a fucking waste of skin
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lartinos
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That's a good question.
The obvious answer would be hook up with random woman.
I am sure it is far deeper than that though.
The way it should be
I think a lot of guys are so desperate to overcome their social awkwardness and are blinded by their own selfish sexual desires that they resort to this crap. I can't say I'm surprised, but still. It's pathetic.
I didn't have to be taught. comes pretty natural
we all have sexualllll desirres right?
thelocal
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lol no its not patheic society makes daiting and first empressions patheic..
like I tell guys and etc..there afraid of rejection but lets break down what it really is..
The girls is not neccseralry rejecting you becuase of your approaching her and talking to her,shes rejecting you becuase she doesnt really know you..thats the basic line anyway it can get deep but I am in the middle of also making a resume
The way soecity views daiting has made people like me in the "pua" world
first imperssion is a big deal..any guy can sweep any girls up,..any guys HAS the cahcne to pick up the hottest girl on earth ..but society says he cant becuase he doesnt making enough $$ he doesnt have abbs,hes bald,etc the list goes on..so have to counter react that..me i have a full head of hair lol i have the looks..im broke as a joke but these chicks dont know that..and it really doesnt matter why?
becuase I never payed for one date in my life,never bought a chick a drink,a lunch,a hotel room lol..nothing..I get them to pay for all that shit..why?..becuase i have "tight game" and @ wtf do i wanan be like every other guy and pay for that shit when ill never see her again,the goal is to get her to pay for that shit
like I tell guys and etc..there afraid of rejection but lets break down what it really is..
The girls is not neccseralry rejecting you becuase of your approaching her and talking to her,shes rejecting you becuase she doesnt really know you..thats the basic line anyway it can get deep but I am in the middle of also making a resume
The way soecity views daiting has made people like me in the "pua" world
first imperssion is a big deal..any guy can sweep any girls up,..any guys HAS the cahcne to pick up the hottest girl on earth ..but society says he cant becuase he doesnt making enough $$ he doesnt have abbs,hes bald,etc the list goes on..so have to counter react that..me i have a full head of hair lol i have the looks..im broke as a joke but these chicks dont know that..and it really doesnt matter why?
becuase I never payed for one date in my life,never bought a chick a drink,a lunch,a hotel room lol..nothing..I get them to pay for all that shit..why?..becuase i have "tight game" and @ wtf do i wanan be like every other guy and pay for that shit when ill never see her again,the goal is to get her to pay for that shit
Fuck you are the biggest waste of skin...i would like to fucking kick your pathetic head in
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lartinos
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Ya, comes from frustration.
Frustration with the inability to pick up woman, frustration from the relationships they were in, and I am sure it is learned from people's family lives too.
Whatever they were used to as a kid can create what they think are norms.
thelocal
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lartinos
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Every other guy pays for sex?
thelocal
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yea they do..you pay for her dinner,drinks,movie,etc with the HOPE that you get some good pussy at the end of the night
dont be like them,break the mold,
WoodyO
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I guess you didn't click on the link. My poast was intended to be commentary on the quality of Mississippi women.
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lartinos
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Well, getting said pussy is not hard for me. I wouldn't have to pay for it, I would because i can afford too though. When people think you are good looking/smart etc.. it is a lot easier than trying to manipulate someone. If anything you get that kind of talk from them (other people you meet) and it is weird.
thelocal
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well if you have good looks plus game your unspotable
there are good looking dudes but cant get girls becuase thier socialy awkward
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lartinos
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Picking up woman is about not being creepy by controlling desire.
It is hard at times. Being genuine helps for sure. This "method" doesn't seem very good to me from that funny looking guy on TV.
Do you have specific girls that this worked on? Where did this go down? What was their name?
thelocal
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it is chaotic thats for sure,,some of them get to much into it..i just use the basics man ..i dont really paticapte on the fourms that much anymore however just have a few othe rpua that i stay in touch with,give each other adivce,bounce ideas off each other etc
i actually agree with this
calveless wonder
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PUA is a bunch of bullshit. it's a manipulative approach generated by a bunch of losers who compensate for a lack of any confidence or personality by resorting to gimmicks and tricks.
There are some things guys need to learn about women operate, and that stuff is valuable...but most of that shit is garbage. and yes, i'm very familiar with aspects of the community.
develop yourself as a person inside and out and pussy comes in droves
There are some things guys need to learn about women operate, and that stuff is valuable...but most of that shit is garbage. and yes, i'm very familiar with aspects of the community.
develop yourself as a person inside and out and pussy comes in droves
calveless wonder
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meeting women is not science or math. it's like art.
Not everyone will see what you see and vice versa, and what works for someone won't work for the next person. there are general principles that should be followed (i.e. don't let women walk all over you or put up with their bullshit) and things to keep in mind because woman are illogical creatures, but other than that to each their own.
Being genuine , having a strong personality and being comfortable in your own skin is like 90% of the battle. and you attract higher quality women this way. slutty girls and headcases don't respond as well to that as normal women
Not everyone will see what you see and vice versa, and what works for someone won't work for the next person. there are general principles that should be followed (i.e. don't let women walk all over you or put up with their bullshit) and things to keep in mind because woman are illogical creatures, but other than that to each their own.
Being genuine , having a strong personality and being comfortable in your own skin is like 90% of the battle. and you attract higher quality women this way. slutty girls and headcases don't respond as well to that as normal women
thelocal
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Come to the dark side haha
dig deep,dig hard.whatever drives you to workout hold on to it with everything you got.keep the fire burning
uamaverick
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your formulas are for faggots. My formula is roofie + ether = epic rape time.
Me > you
Me > you
calveless wonder
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an 8ball is just as effective
thelocal
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I disagree nor all of them are non confident some are very..I do agree people are people and unpredictable BUT most for the majority of girls think the same in the end so the material does work IF you do it right
Now I agree its best to developed your own "game" but the PUA group does have great basic/starter material
dig deep,dig hard.whatever drives you to workout hold on to it with everything you got.keep the fire burning
calveless wonder
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you don't get it.
so the end justifies the means? why not just date rape them? You're basically just tricking them.
that's a good way to start meaningful relationships or interactions.
it just screams low character.
Don't you think the fact that you have to basically trick girls by using canned material to sleep with you says something about what you're lacking as a man?
If you can't attract women based on your own personality or looks or social status or whatever, then that means you probably have a lot of work to do when it comes to personal development. focus on that and it'll be far more rewarding and on your own terms, instead of being a quick fix loser
uamaverick
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I just walk up to women in bars and say, "I'm 8 inches.......AROUND......just think about that."
Then I walk off. They come back to my table looking for me. Works every time.
Then I walk off. They come back to my table looking for me. Works every time.
thelocal
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LOL I'm not a loser dude so you can plant 2 lips
You see what you fail to realize is I don't want a relationship ..why so that bitch can fuck me over? Man please ..this is an "art" and I'm about to start teaching nerds this shit as a job
Only passion I have in life is gym..fucking random chicks..
You can call me a loser,tool,asshole whatever doesn't matter.I'm honest about it.and I'm living "my dream" so just because we view social dynamics different doesn't make you any better of a man.just means were different and have different characters
I think you didn't know how to be a PUA and couldn't hang so now
Your bashing on them.prolly was a keyboard jockey
dig deep,dig hard.whatever drives you to workout hold on to it with everything you got.keep the fire burning
You see what you fail to realize is I don't want a relationship ..why so that bitch can fuck me over? Man please ..this is an "art" and I'm about to start teaching nerds this shit as a job
Only passion I have in life is gym..fucking random chicks..
You can call me a loser,tool,asshole whatever doesn't matter.I'm honest about it.and I'm living "my dream" so just because we view social dynamics different doesn't make you any better of a man.just means were different and have different characters
I think you didn't know how to be a PUA and couldn't hang so now
Your bashing on them.prolly was a keyboard jockey
dig deep,dig hard.whatever drives you to workout hold on to it with everything you got.keep the fire burning
THIS! He blames society and social anxiety for his lack of a moral compass, silencing his conscience for too long, and his inability to think critically about human relations and dignity when he reads. A decent guy would be repelled by this stuff, social anxiety or not, IMO.
uamaverick
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Oh, I almost forgot, when I really want to pick up hot chicks, I start talking about how much I love Hitler and how the Holocaust never happened. That usually works too.
You need to take responsibility. You are manufacturing consent through manipulation and tricks. It is predatory. You lack empathy, self awareness and the most basic morals. The world does not owe you pussy, and women are not targets or objects, we are human beings. God you are so empty inside.
thelocal
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LOL Cindy you have no IDEA on how the fuck I am inside LOL .you'd be scared, and I'd be in a mental Ward..Don't no half the shit I been threw or done and LOL..your pathetic. Because I don't view your way and I think outside the box and use my intelligence to out wit girls doesn't make me the bad Guy.I got self awareness LOL I got "my" moral. I bet your more immoral then me..these girls KNOW its a hit and quite ..Its fun,the thrill its kinda like gambling ..lololol who fucking said the world owed me pussy? YOU STOP PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH! Hah you crack me up..you need to accept the fact that you prolly be a victim of a PUA and now pissed because that was the best lay you had..get over it life goes on
NO PAIN NO GLORY!
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lartinos
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That hurts coming from Cindy to him I bet. She is totally right though. She is not attacking you, she is just telling you the truth. You need to rethink some things I think local.
Why did you decide to have that Sig return by the way? Do you use it at certain times?
What does "no pain, no glory" mean to you.
Why did you decide to have that Sig return by the way? Do you use it at certain times?
What does "no pain, no glory" mean to you.
thelocal
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That sign I forgot it was still under active on my android cell didn't pay much attention. Then changed it..if it really annoyed you let me know so I can put it back lolol
Naw I'm not hurt,she's just trying to tell me how to love.she's hypnotized by TV and by movies on.how to view daiting, social dynamic, etc. Most are ..
LOL look ima bang as many chicks as possible if I ever date again I'm still going to go pick up on the side.I don't trust a bitch anymore and have no reason to..its fun.it's a thrill.
NO PAIN NO GLORY!
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lartinos
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So there is a specific time that someone you feel screwed you over and now you are hurt so you have stopped trusting all people. You probably have multiple people you feel in your family etc. have screwed you over. Just because you got screwed over doesn't mean you have let it ruin your life and others. At a certain point it makes sense to grow up or you could get locked up or something like that. Confront your problems and stop the cycle.
You've got skillz, bro
You should really consider putting the PUA or whatever it is on your resume
You should really consider putting the PUA or whatever it is on your resume
thelocal
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Dude wtf you talking about? My family never screwed me over ..and everyonr gets Fucked over in one relationship atleast
Man I dont do anything bro get locked up bro.all that shit is behind me..were talking about gaming chicks its not illegal
NO PAIN NO GLORY!
I almost feel bad for him but it doesn't sound like he's trying to do anything to better himself.
Cindy, don't know if you've ever read, "The Game" by Neil Strauss but it's a really good book. Well written, entertaining and enlightening.
http://www.amazon.com/GAME-UNDERCOV...=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1326979139&sr=1-1
The book cronicles a journalist who takes on an assignment to write about PUAs and ends up deeply embedded in the lifestyle and ultimately becomes one of their gurus. It's a great story.
I have no doubt that picking up women can be learned; just like any other skill. But just because a man develops that skill doesn't make him abusive. No more than a person with great sales skills is automatically going to cheat you.
A good salesman with integrity can help you figure out what it is you really want and guide you through the buying process so that you end up happy and satisified with your decision.
If a man meets a woman in a bar, lives up to a fantasy that's in her mind; and the next morning they both feel they had a great night, what harm was done?
Do women not go out sometimes hoping something exciting will happen that night?
I have the discretion to tell the difference. There is no way you're going to convince me that it is fine to be a creepy rapey predator and that women need to be tricked into having sex. There is a difference between a salesman helping you find the vehicle you want and the slimeball selling you a lemon. The PUA tricks; a good portion of them are abusive. The freezeout, the "neg", a lot of those things are psychological abuse. A decent person reading these "tips" should have had their conscience alert them a long time ago that something was sketchy about this. On the show the PUA telling the men that women are like toddlers? Really? Teaching them to touch women inappropriately and without our permission? It's so skeevy! Teaching them to insulting us and following it up with a compliment so it knocks down our self-esteem so we don't notice but all the sudden they seem credible? I'm supposed to be convinced it's okay because they just want sex? What the fuck?
I have no problem with casual sex and hookups. Women want to do that too. My problem is with the covert and subtle manipulation that is being taught to these guys with the end result being sex. Evil is subtle. The tips taught are my definition of evil, teaching people to manipulate others to get what the want and how to be sneaky and creepy about it. Tips to sell your soul for the promise of an easy lay not realizing you're creating your own living hell. One of the "tips" was to treat approaching women like a video game so rejection didn't hurt so much. Do you guys not see these rules teach these young men how to become psychopaths? I don't care how playful the teasing or "negging" is if the teasing is meant to lower the target's self esteem and manipulate them to give you credibility it is abuse and I'm telling you the only women it will work on is women that will tolerate abuse, because it's abuse.
calveless wonder
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you missed the point of that entire fucking book.
in the end he realizes they're mostly douchebags with serious emptiness or psychological damage and he didn't want to be one of them. he was happy he experienced it because he developed some things as a person, but that's not what this guy is doing. remember, Neil Strauss ended up in a relationship and that's what he wanted in the end
aren't you the same dude that contemplated ruining his marriage/cheating on his wife and whether or not he should bang the 19 year old cashier at the grocery store? even then you're well into your 40s?
nice integrity bro
calveless wonder
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Your ex GF must have raped your soul and you lost all confidence so this is your way of coping. You're a mess, and should seek help. i'm not saying that to be a dick, but anyone with two eyes can see that you're seriously emotionally damaged (or an alter)
and no, i didn't need to be a "PUA" because i have real world social skills and a natural personality that is conducive to meeting women along with a degree of good looks and style. but i wasn't always that way. i became a better man/better person from my teenage years up until now.
calveless wonder
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ah, this is the thread i was thinking about
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/chat-conversation/i-cant-do-can-i-729389.html
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/chat-conversation/i-cant-do-can-i-729389.html
calveless wonder
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lmao
They were mostly douchebags; not 100% of them. Just because you have a skill doesn't mean you have to use it immorally.
And yes, I considered banging the 20-year-old cashier that hit on me. I even wanted to...but I didn't in the end so my integrity is intact (at least with regard to that incident).
calveless wonder
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I agree that not all of them are douchebags, but a very very small percentage aren't. The ones that aren't douchbags are the ones who teach about personal development and being able to be genuine or spontaneous and creating your own style that fits you in terms of trying to approach women.
there's not many of those, and this guy certainly doesn't follow that philosophy.
lol
I'm sure my wife is hotter than any of these skeezers you're pickin up. Post up some pics broski.
calveless wonder
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calveless wonder
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you live in a place where you can throw 15 cent beads and chicks will show you their tits
you must look like Rocky Dennis if you can't get laid without doing stupid magic tricks
you must look like Rocky Dennis if you can't get laid without doing stupid magic tricks
GUE - Go Ugly Early
The only ploy I've ever used when trying to pick up women; it's surprisingly successful. Find a girl who would meet your absolute minimum standards if it were last call and you had beer goggles on. Go up and start a converation with her; if she's with friends that's all the better. Get her to talk about herself and find something that really interests you so you have a REAL conversation. I've never failed to "trade up" to a hotter chick by the end of the night by doing this.
Here's why it works. 1st, it's much easier to be confident when you don't especially find the girl attractive. You don't really plan to end up with her so there's nothing to lose. She's not used to getting any attention so when you approach her first, she eats it up. The reaction from her fuels your confidence even more and you start to get in the zone.
2nd, women are competitive. Once one woman shows interest in you, this automatically makes you interesting to (many) other women. Their desire to prove to themselves that they are better looking (or more worthwhile) than the one you are talking to will actually drive them right to you. They will look for an opportunity to get you to notice them.
Now the stage is set with you feeling very confident and women trying to compete for your attention. Doesn't necessarily get you laid, but it makes it very easy to meet women.
Is that immoral, Cindy?
The only ploy I've ever used when trying to pick up women; it's surprisingly successful. Find a girl who would meet your absolute minimum standards if it were last call and you had beer goggles on. Go up and start a converation with her; if she's with friends that's all the better. Get her to talk about herself and find something that really interests you so you have a REAL conversation. I've never failed to "trade up" to a hotter chick by the end of the night by doing this.
Here's why it works. 1st, it's much easier to be confident when you don't especially find the girl attractive. You don't really plan to end up with her so there's nothing to lose. She's not used to getting any attention so when you approach her first, she eats it up. The reaction from her fuels your confidence even more and you start to get in the zone.
2nd, women are competitive. Once one woman shows interest in you, this automatically makes you interesting to (many) other women. Their desire to prove to themselves that they are better looking (or more worthwhile) than the one you are talking to will actually drive them right to you. They will look for an opportunity to get you to notice them.
Now the stage is set with you feeling very confident and women trying to compete for your attention. Doesn't necessarily get you laid, but it makes it very easy to meet women.
Is that immoral, Cindy?
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WoodyO
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I use my android as well, however I know how to proof read my own postings. I'm not talking about an occasional spelling error either. This post would make any English teacher you ever had hang his head in shame.
Lol, I didn't mean to sound like I write the book on morality or that I know what's right in every situation. I don't. Since you asked though, I don't see anything wrong with using some scripted advances and techniques to get comfortable meeting and talking to women.
Sounds like a lot of hard work. What's it like to work so hard just to get laid? I wouldn't know. Bitches pull me. I've had all kinds of lines used on me too...I fall for them all the time. I'm a whore though.
Sorry shit doesn't work out so easy for you bro.
Pics? I want vid of this loser's awkward game in action. Lol!
I thought you just said you were working on a resume? Why do you need a resume to teach nerds this "shit"?
Didn't you make a SWV thread not too long ago?
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