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The protein isn't denatured if they're raw. Honestly, this was a pretty common practice years ago and healthy young adults shouldn't have a problem. But make damn sure they're fresh. If the yolk isn't plump, DO NOT eat them!
wellbilt
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what nelson said is right on
people used to do this all the time back in the day
i still add raw eggs to my shake from time to time
i have heard that the chance of getting sick from raw eggs was like a million to 1
i say suckem down just make sure there fresh and look good when cracked
people used to do this all the time back in the day
i still add raw eggs to my shake from time to time
i have heard that the chance of getting sick from raw eggs was like a million to 1
i say suckem down just make sure there fresh and look good when cracked
st8grad
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I eat 12 raw eggs every day. 6 at two different times. It ensures that the protein isn't denatured like Nelson said. And the risk is actually 1 in 30,000 that you will get sick. That risk doesn't change just because you eat 3 at a time. It's 1 in 30,000 for each egg.
Staying with organic or cage free eggs is your best bet especially since they don't cost that much more. They really do taste better too.
Staying with organic or cage free eggs is your best bet especially since they don't cost that much more. They really do taste better too.
st8grad said:
The statistic is that 1 in 30,000 eggs may be contaminated with salmonella but that doesn't mean a contaminated egg will make you sick.
A healthy adult will have no trouble with such a small exposure. The way you get into trouble is mixing a contaminated raw egg with a carbohydrate source and giving it time to incubate. Then the exposure to salmonella can be lethal.
instant.muscle
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what does it mean when protein is denatured?st8grad said:
instant.muscle
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so is protein lost when it denaturizes?
captainahole
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I was always told to kill the enzyme that can limit chance of salmonella issues is to blanch the eggs in boiling water for 10 seconds. It kills the bacteria that is on the shells and just under the shell.
daveyboy2345
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crack the eggs open and put in microwavable cup for 10-20 seconds that'll be quick and easy enough to kill the bacteria without over cooking the eggs.
st8grad
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centy said:
Is this myth ever going to die?! No offense to you centy, but this thing about fat and cholesterol making you fat or raising cholesterol is such bullshit.
My cholesterol numbers actually improved when I upped my fat intake to well over 100g per day. I have the labs to prove it. In two months my total cholesterol went from 238 to 139. My triglycerides dropped from over 400 to 40.
This was a result of limiting my carbs to under 60g per day and raising my fat intake like I said. After that initial phase I just kept carbs under 150g per day and kept fat intake above 100.
The lower carb/high fat way of eating is SO much more beneficial to your health than you realize.
I am on 32 and my doctor wanted to put me on a STATIN. What idiot puts a 32yo on a statin drug? I am not anti pharma or anti medical, but they have this fucked up.
The guy who wrote South Beach is a fucking cardiologist for christ's sake.
Control your carbs my friend. That is the key!
Check out the men's health article what if fat isn't bad for you. Also Charles Poliquin, Johnny Bowden, Cassandra Forsythe, Jeff Volek, amongst many others. The proof is there. And don't confuse low or lower carb with ketogenic.
st8grad
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nydj66 said:
Good point of clarification. Also it is rare to die from salmonella or e. coli. You may wish you were dead if infected, but rarely is it fatal. Also dosing high levels of probiotics is beneficial if there is a problem. Which there won't be.
I don't know the stat, but I would almost bet the chances of an allergic reaction from a cooked egg are higher than that of salmonella from a raw egg.
centy
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st8grad said:
I agree with what you are saying - there are many factors at play. And I'm not talking about fat or carbs - just straight up cholesterol. Certainly, you and I are in better health than Jonny Sixpack. If he were to eat like you, it would probably kill him. Eggs are a great source of protein and they are low in fat. But all of that being said, a single egg yolk has ~213mg of cholesterol. A dozen eggs gives you a whopping 2,556 mg. For 'normal' people, it is recommended to keep cholesterol intake below 300mg / day. Even if you metabolize dietary cholesterol very well, this just seems like a hell of a lot. But hey - if you've got the labs to show it, go for it man. Unfortunately, I have to use egg whites. I miss my yolk.
airsmith2k
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drinking raw eggs is nasty! ive tried it and its disgusting
LiquidPhire
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raw eggs that shit would make me fucken yuke.
THE GOOD SUN
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I used to crack and separate 6-12 eggs in the morning, blend it with my oatmeal ...if I did 6 eggs I'd put a scoop of "designer" in there too & possibly a tablespoon full of ANPB
...but crackin' and separatin' eggs got f*ckin' old (especially first thing in the morning) ..so now I use powdered eggs ..WAY BETTER ..matter of fact one of best discoveries I've made!! ..I use it all day long
...but crackin' and separatin' eggs got f*ckin' old (especially first thing in the morning) ..so now I use powdered eggs ..WAY BETTER ..matter of fact one of best discoveries I've made!! ..I use it all day long
centy said:
Why the fuck would you want to drink a glass of SNOT ??? 
I eat 6 eggs a day; 4 whites, 2 whole eggs. Scrambled with salt and pepper.
I eat 6 eggs a day; 4 whites, 2 whole eggs. Scrambled with salt and pepper.
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ALIN
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ajfab88 said:
Ive got to cook mine personally
airsmith2k said:
There is that jism factor.
I try not to think about it.
perryscoon
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Rocky did it so it must work.
Inhibitor13
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I used to throw a couple in my protien shake but now anymore I just eat boiled eggs. Thats good shit right there.
artificialaspirations
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I had been avoiding eating them raw due to the salmonella.
cuts82
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Salmonella is a risk, unlikley but still a risk, i personally hate the smell of raw egg so i couldnt handle juzzling a big wad of the stuff!
i got a text book somewhere and i remember a part in it about how cooking eggs makes the protein more bio-available
im looking for it now
i got a text book somewhere and i remember a part in it about how cooking eggs makes the protein more bio-available
im looking for it now
slamminshaun
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Cook 'em...
Do AllWhites need to be cooked in order to neutralize the Avidin protein which depletes Biotin? I'm a body builder and need to know.
Yes, AllWhites must be fully cooked in order for the Biotin present in egg whites to be available for absorption. In its natural raw state, avidin, a protein found in egg whites, binds with biotin (a B-vitamin). When bound to avidin, our bodies are unable to absorb biotin from the egg white. The heat treatment or pasteurization temperature of the AllWhites is not high enough to denature the avidin protein, therefore the biotin remains bound.
http://www.betterneggs.com/faq/answer.cfm?qid=17
Do AllWhites need to be cooked in order to neutralize the Avidin protein which depletes Biotin? I'm a body builder and need to know.
Yes, AllWhites must be fully cooked in order for the Biotin present in egg whites to be available for absorption. In its natural raw state, avidin, a protein found in egg whites, binds with biotin (a B-vitamin). When bound to avidin, our bodies are unable to absorb biotin from the egg white. The heat treatment or pasteurization temperature of the AllWhites is not high enough to denature the avidin protein, therefore the biotin remains bound.
http://www.betterneggs.com/faq/answer.cfm?qid=17
silverskyline
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centy said:
Thats what I'm sayin there is more protien in the whites and more cholesterol in the yolks...thats why I eat 5 hard boiled eggs in the morning so I can drop the yellow out and chomp down the whites.
When I was in training for my Personal Trainer Cert in Nutrition I learned that there is nearly 100% of your daily Cholesterol levels in one egg yolk!
st8grad
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Eggs' Effect on LDL Cholesterol
In the past decade, research has shown that LDL cholesterol particles vary with respect to their potential to clog arteries and cause heart disease. The particles have been classified according to their size and density, from LDL-1 to LDL-7, with LDL-1 being the largest and LDL-7 being the smallest in diameter.
Researchers say that having predominantly smaller, dense LDL particles (greater than LDL-3) is considered to be more dangerous to heart disease-related health than having mostly larger, more buoyant particles.
In this study, researchers examined the effects of adding the liquid equivalent of three whole eggs per day or a cholesterol-free, fat-free substitute to the diets of about 50 men and premenopausal women for 30 days. A large egg contains about 213 mg of cholesterol.
The study showed that eating the additional cholesterol contained in the eggs increased the proportion of large, LDL particles but did not significantly increase the proportion of the more dangerous, smaller particles.
"We also found that egg cholesterol did not impact the small, dense LDL particles among a sub-set of participants who were generally predisposed to being most sensitive to dietary cholesterol," says Fernandez.
But the study also showed that men had a higher concentration of the more harmful, small LDL particles than women regardless of the diet they followed.
The study appears in the June issue of the journal Metabolism and was supported by the American Egg Board and the University of Connecticut Research Foundation.
SOURCES: Herron, K. Metabolism, June 2004; vol 53: pp 823-830. News release, University of Connecticut.
In the past decade, research has shown that LDL cholesterol particles vary with respect to their potential to clog arteries and cause heart disease. The particles have been classified according to their size and density, from LDL-1 to LDL-7, with LDL-1 being the largest and LDL-7 being the smallest in diameter.
Researchers say that having predominantly smaller, dense LDL particles (greater than LDL-3) is considered to be more dangerous to heart disease-related health than having mostly larger, more buoyant particles.
In this study, researchers examined the effects of adding the liquid equivalent of three whole eggs per day or a cholesterol-free, fat-free substitute to the diets of about 50 men and premenopausal women for 30 days. A large egg contains about 213 mg of cholesterol.
The study showed that eating the additional cholesterol contained in the eggs increased the proportion of large, LDL particles but did not significantly increase the proportion of the more dangerous, smaller particles.
"We also found that egg cholesterol did not impact the small, dense LDL particles among a sub-set of participants who were generally predisposed to being most sensitive to dietary cholesterol," says Fernandez.
But the study also showed that men had a higher concentration of the more harmful, small LDL particles than women regardless of the diet they followed.
The study appears in the June issue of the journal Metabolism and was supported by the American Egg Board and the University of Connecticut Research Foundation.
SOURCES: Herron, K. Metabolism, June 2004; vol 53: pp 823-830. News release, University of Connecticut.
silverskyline
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st8grad said:
Most of what is being taught at ASU when I got my AA before my BS in human nutrition and functional anatomy was pretty concurrent with reality.
artificialaspirations
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ASU ha!
deathdroprob
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Cooked or Raw, doesnt change a thing. Youll still get the same amount of protein quality. The heat tends to amke the Protein cluster, nothing to worry about raw or cooked. Cook to enjoyu, raw to save time and look like Rocky
wynem
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Eggs are an cheap and effective source of protein...........
I eat 24 eggs a day and only the whites..........Have not had one bad experience ever. Been training now for 4 years 45 years old with a body fat % of 9% 1.78m tall and 95kg.
"Life is a freak show and we all play a part"
I eat 24 eggs a day and only the whites..........Have not had one bad experience ever. Been training now for 4 years 45 years old with a body fat % of 9% 1.78m tall and 95kg.
"Life is a freak show and we all play a part"
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