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Test prop,Short esters, Heavy short cycles?


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Excerpt: I like to make my own and it's always been great. I decided to try the short heavy cycle, 5 weeks on, 5 weeks off. So I made up some, 413mg/2ml test prop 200mg tren a 71mg NPP 71mg Masteron 71mg 2ml ed with 1ml b12, I thought this would be perfect. I've never done all short esters like this but I thought this is what you would want so they would clear your system quicker for PCT recovery so you would be able to start the next cycle in 5-7 weeks. Well after 1 week I can't

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    Test prop,Short esters, Heavy short cycles?

    I like to make my own and it's always been great. I decided to try the short heavy cycle, 5 weeks on, 5 weeks off. So I made up some,

    413mg/2ml
    test prop 200mg
    tren a 71mg
    NPP 71mg
    Masteron 71mg

    2ml ed with 1ml b12, I thought this would be perfect. I've never done all short esters like this but I thought this is what you would want so they would clear your system quicker for PCT recovery so you would be able to start the next cycle in 5-7 weeks. Well after 1 week I can't hardly walk and I take pain pretty good, this many mgs is in line with what I would do for a longer cycle with long esters mixed with some short. On a short cycle how do you get the gear without crippling pain??

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    almost 3 grams a week. what are you stats man.

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    stats and cycle experience bro

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    Crazy cycle. Law of diminishing returns come to mind.

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    Quote Quote posted by Mr.X
    stats and cycle experience bro
    5'11" 245 10-12% bf give or take been in the gym for about 15yrs off and on.
    Cycle exp, mostly test cyp, deca, var some test prop and tren I usually cycle 8-12 weeks and start again when blood work is good usualy about 12weeks for the last 5 or so yrs.

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    Quote Quote posted by psychedout
    Law of diminishing returns come to mind.
    Could you go more 'indepth' about that...?

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    cycle your shots man
    hit the site you just trained that day

    not to many fans of short cycles in here. I am a big proponent of them though
    as far as androgen dosegas i use a rough outline of
    novices(185 kbs-215 lbs @ about 10% BF) need about 200-400 mg weeklytotal androgen (no more than 4 weeks)
    intermeditates(215-240) can go from 400-800 mg weekly
    advanced(240-265) can utilize between 850-1750 mg weekly
    very advanced(265+) use anything above 1750 mg weekly


    my guess is your taking too much gear bro for you size. id tone it down a little
    u will probably see better gains
    I COMPETE @ 250 and take about 2000 mg weekly of AAS when im really pushing hard to grow(and this is only for a very short time, most often 14 days before my blood plasma levels are allowed to come back down and anti-E's are brought into play)

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