Easy With the Anti-e's Guys

[Nelson Montana]

Just a reminder that when it comes to anti aromatase's, the old thinking of "you can't be too careful" is really off base.

Lowering estrogen should be done with a lot of caution. You just want to keep it from getting too high, not obliterate it!

Make sure you get your e checked when getting a blood test. Between 10 and 20 is PEFECT. Up to 50 is acceptable but not desirable. And anything below 5 is bad for libido, mood, bones. lipids and can even hinder muscle growth.

 

[Nomadic Dreamer]

subscribed.

 

[UA_Iron]

When you're growing titties you obliterate it. Letrozole destroys it within a few weeks.

Ideally you wouldnt have to run it during cycle though, hinders gains. This is why proviron is good.

 

[bblazer]

Just a reminder that when it comes to anti aromatase's, the old thinking of "you can't be too careful" is really off base.

Lowering estrogen should be done with a lot of caution. You just want to keep it from getting too high, not obliterate it!

Make sure you get your e checked when getting a blood test. Between 10 and 20 is PEFECT. Up to 50 is acceptable but not desirable. And anything below 5 is bad for libido, mood, bones. lipids and can even hinder muscle growth.

There is a fundamental flaw with your post Nelson. You are making the assumption that people go and get their blood work done. I would be willing to bet that less than half of the juicers out there ever get their blood levels checked, let alone before AND after. God forbid during.

B-

 

[brandonp005]

I generally jump on 12.5mg/Aromasin every other day just as soon as i notice my nips beginning to get sensitive...which is around week 2 when running test @ 500mg/wk

 

[burnthiscorpse]

alot of guys go bat shit with the AI's. Especially noobs that have never tried test. "hi i'm running 500mg test e wk with 1mg adex ED" ....jesus christ.

I dont even run an AI while on cycle. Never needed to.

 

[Dial_tone]

There is a fundamental flaw with your post Nelson. You are making the assumption that people go and get their blood work done. I would be willing to bet that less than half of the juicers out there ever get their blood levels checked, let alone before AND after. God forbid during.

B-

I'd go with less than 1/4.

 

[lookinfit75]

There are different trains of thought as far as anti e's are concerned. I have read on other boards where guys subscribe to low dose anti e's while on because of the longer term risk of elevated levels of estro which can lead to cancer (in some). I can also say that those other boards advocate WAY higher anti e doses and to noobs who are not running long cycle at relatively low doeses. A former member of our board that was part of the mass exodus over to the "other" board is currently dealing with cancer right now and all indications indicate that the many years of uncontrolled, super elevated levels of estro are what lead to his current situation.
There is the flip side to prolonged estro obliteration which is the higher risk of heart attack, arteriosclerosis, strokes, loss of libido, and the dread, lack of gains while on cycle among many other complications.
What ever you decide to do, be very careful and do your research. Too much estro is just as bad as not enough in the long run.

 

[ArmaniAK47]

I agree totally with nelson and burnthis...

People go nuts with these drugs, and they are more dangerous than most of the juice we use. (Imo)..

When I started using AAS I hadn't even heard of most of these drugs.. noone around used them! Arimidex and shit was almost unheard of..
We had nolvadex for when and if you started getting gyno.. nothing was run as an 'anti e' for cycles.

 

[needtogetaas]

always have it on hand. Have a few different kinds ot at all times. Letro,adex,dos,bromo,provirone, shit have them all why not.

 

[skaman007]

Just a reminder that when it comes to anti aromatase's, the old thinking of "you can't be too careful" is really off base.

Lowering estrogen should be done with a lot of caution. You just want to keep it from getting too high, not obliterate it!

Make sure you get your e checked when getting a blood test. Between 10 and 20 is PEFECT. Up to 50 is acceptable but not desirable. And anything below 5 is bad for libido, mood, bones. lipids and can even hinder muscle growth.

what dosage of adex do you suggest for a 41yr old ,on a 12 weeker of 500mgtest e?0.5 eod or e3d??

 

[bblazer]

what dosage of adex do you suggest for a 41yr old ,on a 12 weeker of 500mgtest e?0.5 eod or e3d??

What did your blood tests show?

B-

 

[Fudge Tunnel]

what dosage of adex do you suggest for a 41yr old ,on a 12 weeker of 500mgtest e?0.5 eod or e3d??

Use a suicidal A/I. Armidex may cause a rebound effect after stopping it's use. Aromasin is best.

 

[lookinfit75]

Use a suicidal A/I. Armidex may cause a rebound effect after stopping it's use. Aromasin is best.

What is a suicidal A/I and how does it not produce some kind of rebound with the sessation of use.
How is Aromasin different Adex?

 

[-SD-]

i used letro to reduce gyno but yea, it was kind of harsh and i wouldnt take it "just because" im on cycle.

 

[Big Rick Rock]

keep them on hand so you have them even if you don't need them <-- That is better than one day needing them and you just not having them.

Waiting for an IA to arrive in the mail while a problems keeps getting worse is something I don't wish on anybody.

 

[Nelson Montana]

keep them on hand so you have them even if you don't need them <-- That is better than one day needing them and you just not having them.

Waiting for an IA to arrive in the mail while a problems keeps getting worse is something I don't wish on anybody.

Yes, ALWAYS have them on hand. But start with less than more. You can always add. You can;t take away.

 

[thelion2005]

Just a reminder that when it comes to anti aromatase's, the old thinking of "you can't be too careful" is really off base.

Lowering estrogen should be done with a lot of caution. You just want to keep it from getting too high, not obliterate it!

Make sure you get your e checked when getting a blood test. Between 10 and 20 is PEFECT. Up to 50 is acceptable but not desirable. And anything below 5 is bad for libido, mood, bones. lipids and can even hinder muscle growth.

Yes. And cause fatigue.
I dropped my esto too low once and it was a mistake.

 

[Fudge Tunnel]

What is a suicidal A/I and how does it not produce some kind of rebound with the sessation of use.
How is Aromasin different Adex?

Unlike armidex it binds permenantly to the aromatase enzyme. With armidex the binding is not permanent, so concievably when you stop you could get a backlash effect from all the occupied aromatase enzymes suddenly freeing up and becoming active.

 

[Nelson Montana]

what dosage of adex do you suggest for a 41yr old ,on a 12 weeker of 500mgtest e?0.5 eod or e3d??

EOD should be fine, but again, it's the type of thing you have to keep an eye on. Add some Sustain and POST CYCLE and you might need even less.