15 weeks - EQ or Primo?

[Lets_Go_Bro!]

Hi All,

I am stuck with the following decision on my next cycle and would like you input please.
The two choices are below. Before you suggest other dosages, know that this these have been worked out based on what I can be supplied and according to my budget. So, in other words, it is the one or the other. Please help me in my decision.

But first, stats!

• 36 years old.
• 20 years lifting on and off, mostly on.
• 4 cycles done in the past.
• Life happens, injuries etc. so all that effects weight and gains.
• Weight: 187lbs (currently finishing a cut)
• Height: 5 10
• Bf: 10%
• Goal: Clean, lean muscle gains on a very small/conservative calorie surplus diet. (You could call it maintenance)

The two options are as follows:

Option 1 - Test E, EQ, Mast E, Var.
1-15: Test E 300mg/week
1-15: EQ 360mg/week
1-15: Mast E 360mg/week
16-18: Anavar 60mg ed

PS: The reason for Masteron Enanthate in option1 is purely for its anti e properties and instead of popping proviron for 15 weeks.

PCT:
Week +-19-20: HCG 3x 1500 iu (e5d)
Example: 1500, 1500, 1500, 500. (Total 5000iu)
thereafter,
Clomid: 50/25/25/25
Nolvadex: 40/40/20/20
AI on hand: Arimidex
Option 2 - Test E, Primo, Var
1-15: Test E 300mg/week
1-15: Primo E 400mg/week
16-18: Anavar 60mg ed

PCT:
Week +-19-20: HCG 3x 1500 iu (e5d)
Example: 1500, 1500, 1500, 500. (Total 5000iu)
thereafter,
Clomid: 50/25/25/25
Nolvadex: 40/40/20/20

AI on hand: Arimidex

Both options will cost me roughly the same amount.
The reason for such a long cycle is because I understand that EQ and Primo needs to be taken for longer periods to see its full potential. And, because its making use of all compounds available to me. I could shorten both to 12/14...but then I will have stock left. And before you suggest shorten and up the dose, I want to keep dosages on the low side. Using the "less is more" idea.

In the past I have used low test dosages such as this with other compounds like Anavar and proviron with great results. I have also used higher test dosages with slightly more gains but more sides too. Hence the reason to keep test low, as to keep test conversion to estrogen down.

Please let me know your thoughts - option 1 or option 2? Why?

Thank you all for your input!!

 

[MUSTANG_18]

Hi All,

I am stuck with the following decision on my next cycle and would like you input please.
The two choices are below. Before you suggest other dosages, know that this these have been worked out based on what I can be supplied and according to my budget. So, in other words, it is the one or the other. Please help me in my decision.

But first, stats!

• 36 years old.
• 20 years lifting on and off, mostly on.
• 4 cycles done in the past.
• Life happens, injuries etc. so all that effects weight and gains.
• Weight: 187lbs (currently finishing a cut)
• Height: 5 10
• Bf: 10%
• Goal: Clean, lean muscle gains on a very small/conservative calorie surplus diet. (You could call it maintenance)

The two options are as follows:

Option 1 - Test E, EQ, Mast E, Var.
1-15: Test E 300mg/week
1-15: EQ 360mg/week
1-15: Mast E 360mg/week
16-18: Anavar 60mg ed

PS: The reason for Masteron Enanthate in option1 is purely for its anti e properties and instead of popping proviron for 15 weeks.

PCT:
Week +-19-20: HCG 3x 1500 iu (e5d)
Example: 1500, 1500, 1500, 500. (Total 5000iu)
thereafter,
Clomid: 50/25/25/25
Nolvadex: 40/40/20/20
AI on hand: Arimidex
Option 2 - Test E, Primo, Var
1-15: Test E 300mg/week
1-15: Primo E 400mg/week
16-18: Anavar 60mg ed

PCT:
Week +-19-20: HCG 3x 1500 iu (e5d)
Example: 1500, 1500, 1500, 500. (Total 5000iu)
thereafter,
Clomid: 50/25/25/25
Nolvadex: 40/40/20/20

AI on hand: Arimidex

Both options will cost me roughly the same amount.
The reason for such a long cycle is because I understand that EQ and Primo needs to be taken for longer periods to see its full potential. And, because its making use of all compounds available to me. I could shorten both to 12/14...but then I will have stock left. And before you suggest shorten and up the dose, I want to keep dosages on the low side. Using the "less is more" idea.

In the past I have used low test dosages such as this with other compounds like Anavar and proviron with great results. I have also used higher test dosages with slightly more gains but more sides too. Hence the reason to keep test low, as to keep test conversion to estrogen down.

Please let me know your thoughts - option 1 or option 2? Why?

Thank you all for your input!!

@Lets_Go_Bro! welcome to the EliteFitness.com BIG family bro! happy to have you.
I read your post and of course naturally option 1 with primobolan and anavar is better and your pct needs hcgenerate in it, and your cycle needs organ liver support BUT all this is guessing game.
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[stevesmi]

so if you want to recover properly I always advise 12 weeks or less on the cycles
I know that these are long Esters and they don't start peaking till at least six or seven weeks but still I'd rather you recover properly

 

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definitely start a log soon
this way we can guide you and give you the best advice

 

[2Thick]

we've have helped thousands of people on here
give us the opportunity to guide you the same way

 

[Vadim Fedorov]

die in training is going to be crucial
I think that 14 weeks is probably the best

 

[Monstro]

monstro says put up pictures

 

[Monstro]

monstro says put up pictures there are
there are different types of physiques and sometimes different steroids were for different people

 

[JasonPriest]

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[BodyMonster34]

Bro start your log soon
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