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Pressure points in self defense tactics.

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Didn't work on me yesterday... The other students were laughing because I just sat there expressionless as guys were digging their fingers into the pressure points under my jaw and nose... That's what happens when you have a huge muscular neck... The nerves are under all that muscle I guess... It took the instructor to make me tap out finally, but that shit would never work in real life on guys like me... I think a high pain tolerance from bodybuilding helps also.
 
put it on your resume, business owners love tha shit...
 
bigbadassdude said:
Didn't work on me yesterday... The other students were laughing because I just sat there expressionless as guys were digging their fingers into the pressure points under my jaw and nose... That's what happens when you have a huge muscular neck... The nerves are under all that muscle I guess... It took the instructor to make me tap out finally, but that shit would never work in real life on guys like me... I think a high pain tolerance from bodybuilding helps also.
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i could introduce you to a bunch of people who'd have you tapped out in a heart beat. it has nothing to do with your neck and everything to do with lousy technique.
 
timtim said:
i could introduce you to a bunch of people who'd have you tapped out in a heart beat. it has nothing to do with your neck and everything to do with lousy technique.
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+1 absolute fact!
 
bigbadassdude said:
Didn't work on me yesterday... The other students were laughing because I just sat there expressionless as guys were digging their fingers into the pressure points under my jaw and nose... That's what happens when you have a huge muscular neck... The nerves are under all that muscle I guess... It took the instructor to make me tap out finally, but that shit would never work in real life on guys like me... I think a high pain tolerance from bodybuilding helps also.
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LOL at bodybuilding improving muscles
1. underneath the adams apple
2. in your temple
3. tendons on the thumb side of the wrist
4. "funny bone" points around the elbow
5. a line of points in the center of your skull

Not to mention many of them in the chest were intended to be struck with a spear or knife
 
bigbadassdude said:
Didn't work on me yesterday... The other students were laughing because I just sat there expressionless as guys were digging their fingers into the pressure points under my jaw and nose... That's what happens when you have a huge muscular neck... The nerves are under all that muscle I guess... It took the instructor to make me tap out finally, but that shit would never work in real life on guys like me... I think a high pain tolerance from bodybuilding helps also.
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I'm a PPCT dude and DT and I learned a long time ago that there's a % of the population that does not react to the pressure point control tactics. BUT It has nothing to do with muscle. I know skinny dudes that it does not work on either and muscle dudes that cry like a fucking baby and drop like a sack of shit when you go up side their head with a Brachial Stun.

Glad you had fun anyway :)
 
AAP said:
what the fuck kind of bucket neck protects under your nose?
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Infra Orbital Nerve.

That shit works great but the prick cant be expecting it.
That one is used when you want a fucker to stand up or get out of a chair.
Makes bitches comply!
 
PPCT takes a LOT of practice so you don't have to go searching for the persons nerves. Cops who do it for 8 hours in class then never practice will NOT know how to use it in the field.

But the same can be said for the use of a firearm too I guess.
 
The guy is full of shit. His stories sound very familiar. He has a big muscular neck so his pressure points are untouchable? Geezus.

Course sounds like he has some real issues... big bad ass dude? Come on. More like little skinny fvk that is prone to preverication.

:santa:
 
heavy_duty said:
Infra Orbital Nerve.

That shit works great but the prick cant be expecting it.
That one is used when you want a fucker to stand up or get out of a chair.
Makes bitches comply!
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if his neck goes all the way up to under his nose, how can he eat?
 
timtim said:
i could introduce you to a bunch of people who'd have you tapped out in a heart beat. it has nothing to do with your neck and everything to do with lousy technique.
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sorry, in real life people don't stand there patiently while you apply the vulcan sleeper. Joint locks work.......but bodies in motion move too fast for a pressure point technique to have much affect. Adrenaline overrides that shit. In a school setting, sure........the shit will hurt. But if you're in the middle of a scrum they're just going to piss you off. Now if you're talking pressure points like a throat grab or eye gouge, that's a different story......lol
 
heavy_duty said:
I'm a PPCT dude and DT and I learned a long time ago that there's a % of the population that does not react to the pressure point control tactics. BUT It has nothing to do with muscle. I know skinny dudes that it does not work on either and muscle dudes that cry like a fucking baby and drop like a sack of shit when you go up side their head with a Brachial Stun.

Glad you had fun anyway :)
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i went through the academy and they told me the same thing. but i wasnt so lucky, it hurt like a bitch especially when I was the test subject for the instructor just because i had the biggest neck there. i tapped before he even pushed...lol
 
redsamurai said:
sorry, in real life people don't stand there patiently while you apply the vulcan sleeper. Joint locks work.......but bodies in motion move too fast for a pressure point technique to have much affect. Adrenaline overrides that shit. In a school setting, sure........the shit will hurt. But if you're in the middle of a scrum they're just going to piss you off. Now if you're talking pressure points like a throat grab or eye gouge, that's a different story......lol
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thanks. my brother has 18 years experience training himself along with his military training that says otherwise. some people will roll you up. it happens. deal with it.
 
I have seen classified tapes of cops in training on the receivin end of a Brachial Stun and most of them (99.9%) dropped like a sack of shit and they knew "something" was coming LOL.

you don't really get knocked out but you lose your legs for about 10-20 seconds.
The biggest guy I did it to was 320LBS and 6'2". At that time I was probably 155 Lbs :)
 
heavy_duty said:
I have seen classified tapes of cops in training on the receivin end of a Brachial Stun and most of them (99.9%) dropped like a sack of shit and they knew "something" was coming LOL.

you don't really get knocked out but you lose your legs for about 10-20 seconds.
The biggest guy I did it to was 320LBS and 6'2". At that time I was probably 155 Lbs :)
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ive seen people get points grabbed and strikes applied and people are just what they are expected to be - STUNNED. thats when they get the shit kicked out of them because they are near defenseless.
 
heavy_duty said:
I'm a PPCT dude and DT and I learned a long time ago that there's a % of the population that does not react to the pressure point control tactics. BUT It has nothing to do with muscle. I know skinny dudes that it does not work on either and muscle dudes that cry like a fucking baby and drop like a sack of shit when you go up side their head with a Brachial Stun.

Glad you had fun anyway :)
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That's what the instructor said.. On cocaine users and those that have had broken noses, the infraorbital pressure point usually will not work and on a small percentage of population, certain pressure points will not work... Some can withstand a lot of pain (like me) and if the technique doesn't work in 3 seconds, time to move on to something else... It's the PPCT also.
 
bigbadassdude said:
and if the technique doesn't work in 3 seconds, time to move on to something else... It's the PPCT also.
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Amen to that!
Plan B, C and D LOL
elbows, knees, radio for back-up, Oleoresin Capsicum, tazer, kick ass.
 
heavy_duty said:
I have seen classified tapes of cops in training on the receivin end of a Brachial Stun and most of them (99.9%) dropped like a sack of shit and they knew "something" was coming LOL.

you don't really get knocked out but you lose your legs for about 10-20 seconds.
The biggest guy I did it to was 320LBS and 6'2". At that time I was probably 155 Lbs :)
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That one will fuck you up... Haven't had it done on me yet and don't look forward to it.... I like the kick to the common perineal nerve on the side of the leg and the technique where in a clinch, you grab them behind the head and take them to the floor and then apply pressure to the mandibular pressure point and get them in an arm bar... They drop like a sack of potatoes. The infraorbital works great on most people.
 
I grabbed my partner and kneed him in the common perineal nerve (he had a blocking bag for protection) I slipped and fell down... Was quite funny.
 
PICK3 said:
me thinks

bigbadassdude = biteme
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Me thinks you are korrekt! Now I know why all his posts are stupid/BS. Same sack. Different made up name. Big bad ass, shit. A serious mental issue, maybe he had some mace float by when he was doing the neighbors dog.

:santa:
 
I have gotten really good on inside the leg (femoral nerve. This is located on the inside of the thigh, about testicle high) but you have to really know your own stance before you go for this. lots of practice as always. it is more effective than kicking the balls but not as simple.
 
heavy_duty said:
I have gotten really good on inside the leg (femoral nerve. This is located on the inside of the thigh, about testicle high) but you have to really know your own stance before you go for this. lots of practice as always. it is more effective than kicking the balls but not as simple.
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Yeah, we worked on that one also.... The instructor is a little guy about 60 years old, but he knows his shit and can do everything without thinking...Very impressive.
 
heavy_duty said:
I have seen classified tapes of cops in training on the receivin end of a Brachial Stun and most of them (99.9%) dropped like a sack of shit and they knew "something" was coming LOL.

you don't really get knocked out but you lose your legs for about 10-20 seconds.
The biggest guy I did it to was 320LBS and 6'2". At that time I was probably 155 Lbs :)
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sexy!!! any pix or vids of that??? no homo
 
timtim said:
thanks. my brother has 18 years experience training himself along with his military training that says otherwise. some people will roll you up. it happens. deal with it.
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do it in a fight, that's all I got to say. If you can do that, and it works.......fine. But like I said, training for a combat situation is ALOT different than actually BEING in a combat situation. Reaching for a vulcan nostril hold or a shiatsu cock tip incapacitator while in the midst of an all out brawl is bordering on retardation and you deserve the consequences. I'd like to see your brother try that shit on a 350 pound tongan.....it just don't work. Maybe if you sneak up behind him and pull some splinter cell shit, fine. But against someone who knows how to fight, you're gonna take massive meaty paws to the face as you're reaching for that wet willy or purple nurple. Sure the shit hurts when you're in class.........and I bet you even think to yourself how quickly you'd tap if that was done to you in a real fight. But in a real fight, if the hold doesn't somehow disable your CNS, chances are you're not gonna feel it. If it can be done, I wanna see video proof of it.
 
bigbadassdude said:
I grabbed my partner and kneed him in the common perineal nerve (he had a blocking bag for protection) I slipped and fell down... Was quite funny.
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you kneed a man in his taint?? Now that I would pay to see. :lmao:
 
redsamurai said:
do it in a fight, that's all I got to say. If you can do that, and it works.......fine. But like I said, training for a combat situation is ALOT different than actually BEING in a combat situation. Reaching for a vulcan nostril hold or a shiatsu cock tip incapacitator while in the midst of an all out brawl is bordering on retardation and you deserve the consequences. I'd like to see your brother try that shit on a 350 pound tongan.....it just don't work. Maybe if you sneak up behind him and pull some splinter cell shit, fine. But against someone who knows how to fight, you're gonna take massive meaty paws to the face as you're reaching for that wet willy or purple nurple. Sure the shit hurts when you're in class.........and I bet you even think to yourself how quickly you'd tap if that was done to you in a real fight. But in a real fight, if the hold doesn't somehow disable your CNS, chances are you're not gonna feel it. If it can be done, I wanna see video proof of it.
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its obvious you cant fight at an advanced level, neither can i. but i dont try to minimize others gifts to justify your perceived short comings. you sound ridiculous/envious making up sarcastic names for techniques you understand nothing about.

like i said, 18 years of training plus military training (not with the army, marines, air force either). why cant you accept the fact that some people can apply these techniques in the heat of the battle? thats why people spend more than half their lives preparing, so they can do it. just because you cant doesnt mean plenty others cant. the old adage, there is always someone bigger and tougher. its true. seems you dont like to think so.
 
a kick to the nuts will override every single pressure point in the body.
 
redsamurai said:
do it in a fight, that's all I got to say. If you can do that, and it works.......fine. But like I said, training for a combat situation is ALOT different than actually BEING in a combat situation. Reaching for a vulcan nostril hold or a shiatsu cock tip incapacitator while in the midst of an all out brawl is bordering on retardation and you deserve the consequences. I'd like to see your brother try that shit on a 350 pound tongan.....it just don't work. Maybe if you sneak up behind him and pull some splinter cell shit, fine. But against someone who knows how to fight, you're gonna take massive meaty paws to the face as you're reaching for that wet willy or purple nurple. Sure the shit hurts when you're in class.........and I bet you even think to yourself how quickly you'd tap if that was done to you in a real fight. But in a real fight, if the hold doesn't somehow disable your CNS, chances are you're not gonna feel it. If it can be done, I wanna see video proof of it.
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When are you coming back to Toronto?
 
the only pressure point I know of is the one right under the armpit. I wait patiently for someone to stretch their arms overhead and then I knuckle punch them right in the armpit. DEAD ARM!! Sometimes I even slap a headlock on 'em just to make them cry uncle.
 
bigbadassdude said:
Didn't work on me yesterday... The other students were laughing because I just sat there expressionless as guys were digging their fingers into the pressure points under my jaw and nose... That's what happens when you have a huge muscular neck... The nerves are under all that muscle I guess... It took the instructor to make me tap out finally, but that shit would never work in real life on guys like me... I think a high pain tolerance from bodybuilding helps also.
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I know what you mean man.. an instructor tried to use me as an example, didn't explain the technique he was going to do or anything, it's a snatch/take down move, i swept his arm, and pulled the strike to his neck, he was in perfect position to have his airway crushed..

he then said, this is an example of if you miss the grab, don't try it again..
 
i still dont see why anyone would even bother with a 'pressure point technique' or some kind of submission hold in an actual fight, its not going to put them out and once you get off them, they may have been in pain, but it goes quickly, and they will just get back up and want to carry on. straight punch, to the bottom of the jaw, either side, hit it right and a guy twice your weight and strength will go down. lights out. if you really think you may end up getting beaten or cannot throw a punch, kick them in the balls, or grab their balls and as they pull their groin away (natural reaction, everyone does it) they will move their head forward, drop the nut. lights out. simple.
 
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pressure points are not for street fights you dumb dicks (j/k)

it is for security and cops who are not allowed to elbow a fucker in the face.
PPCT (pressure point control tactics) are used in conjunction with other things to get a mofo to comply so you can cuff the cunt or let your back up jump on his neck while you are trying to cuff him.

bouncers, cops and security guys have a hard time getting work when their spending all day in court on assault charges.
 
If I feel my life is threatened, rest assured I'm going for the eyes or the jugular.......and given my past conversations with members of seal team 4, of which my friend was one of them, that would be their course of action as well. But you're right, your brother could be a vulcan.......you never know....:whatever:.

What my experience working in night clubs has shown......is that people can fight through amazing injuries.......injuries that later incapicitate them for weeks if not months. I believe it is you who needs to educate himself in a real world hand to hand combat situation. And do not think for one second that I am unaware of the old adage "theres always someone bigger and/or badder"........this goes without saying. But please, if you have video proof of a nostril flare incapacitating an a real world irate attacker........please show it.


timtim said:
its obvious you cant fight at an advanced level, neither can i. but i dont try to minimize others gifts to justify your perceived short comings. you sound ridiculous/envious making up sarcastic names for techniques you understand nothing about.

like i said, 18 years of training plus military training (not with the army, marines, air force either). why cant you accept the fact that some people can apply these techniques in the heat of the battle? thats why people spend more than half their lives preparing, so they can do it. just because you cant doesnt mean plenty others cant. the old adage, there is always someone bigger and tougher. its true. seems you dont like to think so.
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heavy_duty said:
When are you coming back to Toronto?
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I'm not, dealing with a health issue that I thought I could handle in Toronto. Unfortunately I had to come back...............sucked big time, was all set up to go back to school too. :redhot:
 
Where does one go to learn this pressure point system?
 
gjohnson5 said:
LOL at bodybuilding improving muscles
1. underneath the adams apple
2. in your temple
3. tendons on the thumb side of the wrist
4. "funny bone" points around the elbow
5. a line of points in the center of your skull

Not to mention many of them in the chest were intended to be struck with a spear or knife
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+1
 
Grumpy Old Man said:
The guy is full of shit. His stories sound very familiar. He has a big muscular neck so his pressure points are untouchable? Geezus.

Course sounds like he has some real issues... big bad ass dude? Come on. More like little skinny fvk that is prone to preverication.

:santa:
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ROFLMAO! :spit:



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