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Zimmerman's credibility takes a hit

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Zimmerman screwed that up badly. Based on the two misrepresentations he made, it would be hard for me to believe his story now.

He hurt his case in a big way.
 
why does what he have (his ability to pay a bond) have to do with how much his bond should be??

if i'm reading that right anyway..

Does him having money effect the decision as to weather he is a flight risk??
 
why does what he have (his ability to pay a bond) have to do with how much his bond should be??

if i'm reading that right anyway..

Does him having money effect the decision as to weather he is a flight risk??

I believe bond is based relative to the amount of money he has available. They want to set the number so as it isn't convenient to just pay the amount and skip the bail.

Hiding that second passport + understating income = way bad mojo.
 
so they are profiling him saying he's a flight risk because of the passport?? because he's not white?? is this the same judge that forced all the white employees out of the courtroom during part of the proceedings??

just sayin
 
She also said that Zimmerman had two passports, and the passport that he surrendered to the court at the April hearing was one that Zimmerman had reported stolen on March 8, 2004, court papers said. That passport was valid until May 2012, Corey said.

Zimmerman was issued a second passport on March 26, 2004, and that one is valid until 2014, she said.

The prosecutor asked the court that Zimmerman be ordered to surrender the second passport to authorities.

Zimmerman spoke of the second passport while in the Seminole County Jail in a phone call to his wife that authorities recorded, Corey said. Court records provided a partial transcript:

Zimmerman: "Do you know what? I think my passport is in that bag."

Shelly (sic) Zimmerman: "I have one for you in safety deposit box ..."

Zimmerman: "OK, you hold onto that."
 
money plus a passport equals the ability to leave the country. the conversations suggest that he has at least considered fleeing the country.

consider this case boils down to Zimmerman's word versus a dead kid; his credibility is his entire case. there is a clear intent to deceive the law here. this looks really bad I don't care how you slice it. he obviously believes he's going to lose the case.

what do you think, B? clearly his attorney will try to have this episode thrown out as being too prejudicial. I think he will get it too.
 
The facts will all come out in the trial, then it will be easier to judge
 
so they are profiling him saying he's a flight risk because of the passport?? because he's not white?? is this the same judge that forced all the white employees out of the courtroom during part of the proceedings??

just sayin

What does this have to do with being white or not? Having a passport makes you a flight risk no matter what color you are. That's not profiling.

What does a passport allow you to do? Leave. What do we not want him to do? Leave. So you take away the options.
 
Piece of shit should commit suicide. He is going to stand trial but based on some of the recent evidence, I don't think it's a given that he will be sentenced. I would give him a viagra cocktail and tie his balls in a knot so his dick explodes.....a slow painful death.
 
Zimmerman told me when he beats the wrap on this bullshit case, he's gonn kick dialtone's fat ass.
 
LOLOL Orlando news station just sent me a "breaking news" sms stating as of 7a.m. Zimmerman still hasnt reported gonna have to change my sms settings to just weather and traffic if they're gonna send me no news as news :lmao:
 
In all fairness if I were told to go back at say 4pm Id be there at 3:59, why arrive early lol

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I'd show at 4:01, fashionably late.
 
black folks time is more like 4:15, broham

My father did that shit to me. He wanted me to be somewhere at 11 so he told me 10:45 cuz he knew I'd be late AND I WAS...I still hate that mofo for being right. I couldn't say shit.
 
I used to always be 5-10 minutes late for all of my previous jobs. My current job they don't fuck around, if they see you walking in at 10:00 am, you'll get your ass chewed out. 9:50 it is.
 
he just forgot to set his alarm. the day your supposed to turn yourself in is not all that significant.
 
With lynch mobs (irony) like the new black panthers after him, as well as the courts not being allowed to do their jobs i'd have it in my head that fleeing was an option as well.

Fuck if he's actually guilty of the charge he stands accused of and no matter what move he makes he's going to be guilty of something or doing something wrong in the eyes of everyone who thinks he should fry.
 
With lynch mobs (irony) like the new black panthers after him, as well as the courts not being allowed to do their jobs i'd have it in my head that fleeing was an option as well.

Fuck if he's actually guilty of the charge he stands accused of and no matter what move he makes he's going to be guilty of something or doing something wrong in the eyes of everyone who thinks he should fry.

it seems like he went looking for trouble...it seems like he found it.
 
it seems like he went looking for trouble...it seems like he found it.

could be.

He could also have been a concerned neighborhood watchman who got jumped by a kid who doubled back to fight him and ended up getting shot.

wikipedia said:
Police had been called to The Retreat at Twin Lakes 402 times from January 1, 2011, to February 26, 2012.[58] Zimmerman was the caller on 11 of those calls in that time frame. Crimes committed at The Retreat in the year prior to Martin's death included eight burglaries, nine thefts, and one shooting. In addition there were dozens of reports of attempted break-ins; in one case a woman with an infant hid in an upstairs room until the police arrived and scared the intruders away.[61]. In September, Zimmerman was asked to head up a neighborhood watch.[58] The City of Sanford posted a "George Zimmerman 911 Call History" listing 46 calls by him between 2004 and the 2012 shooting.[62][63][
 
could be.

He could also have been a concerned neighborhood watchman who got jumped by a kid who doubled back to fight him and ended up getting shot.
I see you're fond of this phrase "doubled back". In actuality he took a different route because Zimmerman was following him. Eventually he had to get back on his route to get home. I don't think that counts as doubling back. All Zimmerman needed to do to get away was press the gas pedal.
 
I see you're fond of this phrase "doubled back". In actuality he took a different route because Zimmerman was following him. Eventually he had to get back on his route to get home. I don't think that counts as doubling back. All Zimmerman needed to do to get away was press the gas pedal.

That's a possibility, but more likely he turned around and flanked Zim instead of going to the place he was staying.

LiveLeak.com - NEW EVIDENCE: Trayvon Martin doubled back, wasn?t followed by Zimmerman
 
With lynch mobs (irony) like the new black panthers after him, as well as the courts not being allowed to do their jobs i'd have it in my head that fleeing was an option as well.

Fuck if he's actually guilty of the charge he stands accused of and no matter what move he makes he's going to be guilty of something or doing something wrong in the eyes of everyone who thinks he should fry.

People like you are funny. Acting like a vigilante for truth and fact, chastising anybody who's made up their mind against whoever, when you've already made up your mind yourself.

You don't know what happened, neither do all the writers of any of your articles. People who want Zimmerman punished don't know either.

You're a fool to think otherwise. You think they've released all the details to the public? Or that the articles backing up what you want to believe have to be correct and any that don't support you, couldn't possibly be, like yours hold more weight in truth because you agree.

At the end of the day, you don't know what likely happened and neither does anybody else. Zimmerman will get as much punishment as the evidence says he deserves, whether he did it or not. If the condemning factor was public opinion, Casey Anthony wouldn't just be out there chillin somewhere, no?
 
Zimmerman told me when he beats the wrap on this bullshit case, he's gonn kick dialtone's fat ass.

I love it when bitches be ignoring me, LMAO
 
Ignoring me means I posp off my mouf like a bish, den I acts like shit ain't gonna happens and stuff. Like Beezy gonna just let the shit go, well guess again mutha fucka.
 
People like you are funny. Acting like a vigilante for truth and fact, chastising anybody who's made up their mind against whoever, when you've already made up your mind yourself.

You don't know what happened, neither do all the writers of any of your articles. People who want Zimmerman punished don't know either.

You're a fool to think otherwise. You think they've released all the details to the public? Or that the articles backing up what you want to believe have to be correct and any that don't support you, couldn't possibly be, like yours hold more weight in truth because you agree.

At the end of the day, you don't know what likely happened and neither does anybody else. Zimmerman will get as much punishment as the evidence says he deserves, whether he did it or not. If the condemning factor was public opinion, Casey Anthony wouldn't just be out there chillin somewhere, no?

exactly

this is why i've come to hate these threads
 
People like you are funny. Acting like a vigilante for truth and fact, chastising anybody who's made up their mind against whoever, when you've already made up your mind yourself.

You don't know what happened, neither do all the writers of any of your articles. People who want Zimmerman punished don't know either.

You're a fool to think otherwise. You think they've released all the details to the public? Or that the articles backing up what you want to believe have to be correct and any that don't support you, couldn't possibly be, like yours hold more weight in truth because you agree.

At the end of the day, you don't know what likely happened and neither does anybody else. Zimmerman will get as much punishment as the evidence says he deserves, whether he did it or not. If the condemning factor was public opinion, Casey Anthony wouldn't just be out there chillin somewhere, no?


So you proceed to flame me with some long diatribe about how I dont know what's going on when you dont either? At least include descriptive hashtags like #hypocrite or #ironic.


For the record my mind isn't close to made up regarding this case.

I'm also not going to sit back and ignore the liberal, anti-gun bias in the vast majority of media reporting.


DT posted multiple times in this thread in the vein of, "no this is actually how it happened" and he hasn't drawn your ire.

It's fairly clear what side of the aisle you're on in this case.
 
So you proceed to flame me with some long diatribe about how I dont know what's going on when you dont either? At least include descriptive hashtags like #hypocrite or #ironic.


For the record my mind isn't close to made up regarding this case.

I'm also not going to sit back and ignore the liberal, anti-gun bias in the vast majority of media reporting.


DT posted multiple times in this thread in the vein of, "no this is actually how it happened" and he hasn't drawn your ire.

It's fairly clear what side of the aisle you're on in this case.

Could've fooled me. You're totally right. I'm the one who's clearly chosen a side out of you, DT and me. :rolleyes: I've been saying since the Trayvon threads starte that if ___ happened, I think this, but that I couldn't really comment because I don't know. Go look it up.

You aren't saying "if" anything. Youre telling us what happened.

And you may notice I said the anti-Zimmerman crowd doesn't know the truth either in that post. Read better next time. I don't need to quote every single person pretending they know the truth to make my point. 1 is good enough.

Carry on, almighty all-knowing one. /sarcasm
 
And it wouldn't make sense to flame you unless I didn't know either. If I knew what happened, that would mean someone knew what happened and the problem of everybody throwing around speculation like fact wouldn't exist.
 
Could've fooled me. You're totally right. I'm the one who's clearly chosen a side out of you, DT and me. :rolleyes: I've been saying since the Trayvon threads starte that if ___ happened, I think this, but that I couldn't really comment because I don't know. Go look it up.

You aren't saying "if" anything. Youre telling us what happened.

And you may notice I said the anti-Zimmerman crowd doesn't know the truth either in that post. Read better next time. I don't need to quote every single person pretending they know the truth to make my point. 1 is good enough.

Carry on, almighty all-knowing one. /sarcasm

:rolleyes: You're right, you posted that the anti-zimmerman crowd doesnt know any better but singled me out for posting counter articles to someones opinion.

juiceddreadlocks said:
could be.

He could also have been a concerned neighborhood watchman who got jumped by a kid who doubled back to fight him and ended up getting shot


juiceddreadlocks said:
That's a possibility, but more likely he turned around and flanked Zim instead of going to the place he was staying.

LiveLeak.com - NEW EVIDENCE: Trayvon Martin doubled back, wasn?t followed by Zimmerman

Gee that really looks like I'm telling you exactly how it is with 100% certainty.
 
DT posted multiple times in this thread in the vein of, "no this is actually how it happened" and he hasn't drawn your ire.
Please point out these multiple times?
 
Fuck this thread fuck it fuck it fuck it
 
Please point out these multiple times?

My apologies, you have not posted multiple times like that in this thread. I read through here on a mobile tethering connection with signatures, avatars and pictures all turned off so I attributed a post to you that wasn't yours.
 
:rolleyes: You're right, you posted that the anti-zimmerman crowd doesnt know any better but singled me out for posting counter articles to someones opinion.






Gee that really looks like I'm telling you exactly how it is with 100% certainty.

It does.

You're telling us what's more likely. You don't know whats more likely.

Post a study about the likeliness of a black kid to come back around vs. taking alternate routes. I'd love to know if what's likely isn't based on your opinion and facts you don't know. Please share.
 
This thread sux
 
It does.

You're telling us what's more likely. You don't know whats more likely.

Post a study about the likeliness of a black kid to come back around vs. taking alternate routes. I'd love to know if what's likely isn't based on your opinion and facts you don't know. Please share.

More likely does not mean 100% certainty.

Additionally where in the world did I mention or reference race being the reason he would double back?
 
It does.

You're telling us what's more likely. You don't know whats more likely.

I'd love to know if what's likely isn't based on your opinion and facts you don't know. Please share.

Here's you commenting on the same subject questioning the presented story with your own opinion thrown in:

AFeedz said:
Yeah. I'd been hearing how his head hit the pavement and his nose was broken...yadda yadda.

Even if meds cleaned him up before the police were with him a. You don't wipe away a broken nose, there's be visible trauma and b. I really don't believe if his nose were ever broken, he'd be with police and not a hospital...scrapes and bruised maybe, broken shit, no. Seems fishy.

I'm trying not to pay too much attention before court though. There's no point. Nothing we hear til then is real.
 
I see you're fond of this phrase "doubled back". In actuality he took a different route because Zimmerman was following him. Eventually he had to get back on his route to get home. I don't think that counts as doubling back. All Zimmerman needed to do to get away was press the gas pedal.

Exactly. We don't have the kid's side of things. I know I'd be thinking this guy is following me so I mught have to do something, or he nay try to rob/kill me...unfortunately oone of those may have been right.

Btw, even if trayvon wasn't a perfect teenager, who the fuck was? He was going to get stuff for his sibling. It's messed up that this pos isn't shanked already.

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Here's you commenting on the same subject questioning the presented story with your own opinion thrown in:

Good story.

So me saying he didn't look beat up in the one picture I saw which makes how badly he was beat up questionable says something about who I think was at fault or what I think happened?

No. And it says I don't know how badly he was beaten.

I said right there at the bottom nothing matters til the full story is out in court.
 
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More likely does not mean 100% certainty.

Additionally where in the world did I mention or reference race being the reason he would double back?

It doesn't have to mean with certainty. You've decided what the likely story is based on nothing.

And your study doesn't need to be about black kids. You could post one about how likely teenagers are as well, since you know, the kid doubling back isn't the story you've decided probably happened, but what is actually likely. I'll wait.
 
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