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That was very informative. Great post.
Zimbabwe tells white farmers to leave
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SleepingFist
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Weapon X....fuck me....is this just an excerpt from a book or a stand alone text? I did not realise that people could twist perception mooooore than I suspected...please help...discovering lots today.
SleepingFist
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I've studied the classics, greek, sufist, non-rational, rational, mystic, metaphysical and damn me...I have never heard of this crass, self proliferating backward crap....I am not a racist, I am not supremecist, I am a historian of sorts and student of the theosophical (not phylisophical or theological) disciplines, but this self agrandising pap that people put forward to make a singular race important is HORRIFIC!
I have always known that the clasical Egyptologists views are bollocks and now, built on assumed bollocks, I find a whole cultrue has decided, under the guise of the pseudo intellectual assumption that they have a right to fuck with an already fucked history they fucked with simple facts! We know Jesus was a black man, are we now going to hear he was actually from Rhodesia? Guyana? Gabon? OK, I accept the black man has suffered under the white rule in many areas but I was not responsible for it and neither was the Truth.
Malcolm X was right, the fool cannot immitate the wise man but the Wise man can immitate the fool...when the fuck will they stop impersonating and give us all a fucking break...
I have always known that the clasical Egyptologists views are bollocks and now, built on assumed bollocks, I find a whole cultrue has decided, under the guise of the pseudo intellectual assumption that they have a right to fuck with an already fucked history they fucked with simple facts! We know Jesus was a black man, are we now going to hear he was actually from Rhodesia? Guyana? Gabon? OK, I accept the black man has suffered under the white rule in many areas but I was not responsible for it and neither was the Truth.
Malcolm X was right, the fool cannot immitate the wise man but the Wise man can immitate the fool...when the fuck will they stop impersonating and give us all a fucking break...
WeaponX
The article written Ilana Mercer is highly subjective and noticely biased. The author provides no imformation to counter what is accepted as historical fact. The author uses general arguements without structure to articulate the claims. The article is nothing more than a generalized editorial promoting those ideas.
History itself is subjective and often biased. History is fact interpreted by man to serve a purpose. The history of Africa as well as many other nations can be viewed in many different ways. All ancient civilizations have provided the world with knowledge and substance. However the legacy of Africa is less disputed than more modern and current events. The progression of the ancient world is a direct result of numerous enfluences. Each one serving a intricate role in the development of the world.
I do appreciate you searching for imformation to support you opinion.
The article written Ilana Mercer is highly subjective and noticely biased. The author provides no imformation to counter what is accepted as historical fact. The author uses general arguements without structure to articulate the claims. The article is nothing more than a generalized editorial promoting those ideas.
History itself is subjective and often biased. History is fact interpreted by man to serve a purpose. The history of Africa as well as many other nations can be viewed in many different ways. All ancient civilizations have provided the world with knowledge and substance. However the legacy of Africa is less disputed than more modern and current events. The progression of the ancient world is a direct result of numerous enfluences. Each one serving a intricate role in the development of the world.
I do appreciate you searching for imformation to support you opinion.
"accepted as historical fact" by whom????
As noted above, I've been looking at this argument for the past 8 years or more. And it's still revisionist history.
You can't rewrite the pasrts of history you don't like, as the Neo-Nazis are learning. I guess you've got something in common with those other revisionists.
As noted above, I've been looking at this argument for the past 8 years or more. And it's still revisionist history.
You can't rewrite the pasrts of history you don't like, as the Neo-Nazis are learning. I guess you've got something in common with those other revisionists.
ok, now I understand...
it IS a deal of white vs black, not of an opressed minority vs the opressors. The Serbs vs Croats vs whoever would never have garnered such replies, methinks.
Interesting.
I was initially trying to shed a little history, actual history documented by Eurpoean writers, no less, not to instigate anyone into a rage.
I stand by my original statement that the white settlers having to move is wrong. It's wack.
I also stand by my statement that Africa has a rich history and contributions that cannot be disregarded.
Whew! this topic is helping my debating skills.
I haven't lost my temper once, haha.
it IS a deal of white vs black, not of an opressed minority vs the opressors. The Serbs vs Croats vs whoever would never have garnered such replies, methinks.
Interesting.
I was initially trying to shed a little history, actual history documented by Eurpoean writers, no less, not to instigate anyone into a rage.
I stand by my original statement that the white settlers having to move is wrong. It's wack.
I also stand by my statement that Africa has a rich history and contributions that cannot be disregarded.
Whew! this topic is helping my debating skills.
I haven't lost my temper once, haha.SleepingFist
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Three points
Weapon X: I have a degree of contempt for Blavatsky, she sited more pap than doris stokes and not once touched upon the true essence of Theosophical understanding, if she had we would not know who she was, so no I am not down with her. If you want to know the exact reasons why PM me....the list is long and no one will know what we are on about...as bloody usual or there would be no arguments...excuse my arogance.
Secondly, it is not a white vs black issue, it is a truth versus rediculous issue. I will be positive and argumentative and play devils advocate UNTIL IT THREATENS TRUTH. I do not profess to know what the truth is, but there is a black and white area we can walk between that essues bollocks. You cannot ethically warp the perception of people and expect a tolerant, enlightened society to come from it....and you cannot expect anyone, no matter how PC to tolerate of what Ilana Mercer suggests notable Black African authors propose as truth.
Mr ?I have a bit of a problem and maybe you could help me out (I ma not suggesting a lobotomy); if I may quote....
'The author provides no imformation to counter what is accepted
as historical fact.'
I need you to help me with the hystorical fact bit......maybe I don't want to make a whole load of effort but...and I do agree there is a time line issue with the three supposed accepted Alexandria timelines...but I want a bit more form you than the same rhetoric we have from the author of the article.....I also want to understand what you mean about the legacy of Africa being less disputed etc....I don't know your position here and it makes understanding your point difficult...could you illucidate? You so far have generalised...I need you to put me on the spot....I do not know if you have any specifics for me to work with? I am not a surgeon butif I was, I think knowing my arse from my elbow would aid me in a heart transplant......help?
Weapon X: I have a degree of contempt for Blavatsky, she sited more pap than doris stokes and not once touched upon the true essence of Theosophical understanding, if she had we would not know who she was, so no I am not down with her. If you want to know the exact reasons why PM me....the list is long and no one will know what we are on about...as bloody usual or there would be no arguments...excuse my arogance.
Secondly, it is not a white vs black issue, it is a truth versus rediculous issue. I will be positive and argumentative and play devils advocate UNTIL IT THREATENS TRUTH. I do not profess to know what the truth is, but there is a black and white area we can walk between that essues bollocks. You cannot ethically warp the perception of people and expect a tolerant, enlightened society to come from it....and you cannot expect anyone, no matter how PC to tolerate of what Ilana Mercer suggests notable Black African authors propose as truth.
Mr ?I have a bit of a problem and maybe you could help me out (I ma not suggesting a lobotomy); if I may quote....
'The author provides no imformation to counter what is accepted
as historical fact.'
I need you to help me with the hystorical fact bit......maybe I don't want to make a whole load of effort but...and I do agree there is a time line issue with the three supposed accepted Alexandria timelines...but I want a bit more form you than the same rhetoric we have from the author of the article.....I also want to understand what you mean about the legacy of Africa being less disputed etc....I don't know your position here and it makes understanding your point difficult...could you illucidate? You so far have generalised...I need you to put me on the spot....I do not know if you have any specifics for me to work with? I am not a surgeon butif I was, I think knowing my arse from my elbow would aid me in a heart transplant......help?
WeaponX
As Furious stated, the history of Africa has been documented by European scholars who aknowledge the contributions of Africa. One would instantly assume that European scholars would contorte and twist history in their favor.. This may be so for many historians, but the majority of historians promote the evidence that shows Africa's role in the development of Eurpoe and other parts of the world.
I don't believe in reinventing history. I do believe in the accurate representation of the truth. As I stated before, history has been re-written to serve political agendas and mold opinions. How do we know who is providing accurate interpretation? However, it's easy to see who is manipulating the truth for their own benefit.
As Furious stated, the history of Africa has been documented by European scholars who aknowledge the contributions of Africa. One would instantly assume that European scholars would contorte and twist history in their favor.. This may be so for many historians, but the majority of historians promote the evidence that shows Africa's role in the development of Eurpoe and other parts of the world.
I don't believe in reinventing history. I do believe in the accurate representation of the truth. As I stated before, history has been re-written to serve political agendas and mold opinions. How do we know who is providing accurate interpretation? However, it's easy to see who is manipulating the truth for their own benefit.
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