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Zimbabwe tells white farmers to leave

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'Many of you lack the sophistication and class to properly articulate your opinions without offending anyone. I understand many of you may use this website to vent self-hatered and other insecurities that are misguided. Your ignorance is apparent and thus speaks volumes of your character.'

Now I was hoping that this did not apply to me Ryanh but in my opinion, and it is only my opinion, this is the equivelant of name calling....as in 'ignorant bigot' or 'fascist' or whatever.

I would also suggest that there is nothing wrong with argument...it is a very highly refined technique and one I believe in.

Weapon Xs' comment, though I do not often agree with him, and he could not give a rats arse if I did or not, is valid, a post simply saying 'oh post some more, I agree with you, you are clever and so knowledgable' says a) You are so clever and thus disqualifies you from being able to judge whether he is (clever) or not and b) ' I agree with you' but only 'cuz I lack the facility to know exactly why, is actually not helping your position...and you were doing so well!

Mr? needs to qualify his point as he has grandiosly generalised the whole of the African continent and I thought we were being a bit more specific than that...
 
Good points, SleepingFist.
I agree the discussions and arguments. It was by listening to arguments and weeding out the nonsense for myself that I have been able to form my own opinions about many things. That's why I am able to disagree with many thing on the Republican platform as well as the Democrat's.
 
This is funny. This type of thing is happening in Israel, in East Europe, even in Ireland. But when it happens between 2 COLORS (remember, we are all the human race, just different tribes) it really gets peoples blood boiling.
The statement that slavery has been a part of African culture is true. It has been a part of EVERY culture, from the Native Americans to the Chinese, to the Turkish. The word slave comes from "Slavs".The Byzantine Empire made slaves from the Slavic peoples.

"just think...
If whites never came to africa, the people there would still be worshipping rocks and trees and cutting each others heads off. We also wouldnt have any blacks in the states. Hmmmmm.... "

Dude! Please read some history before you make a comment like this about an entire continent. Africans were the first to forge metal, introduce monotheism, established trade routes as far as China, introduced mathematical theories, music, advanced agriculture techniques. The city of Timbuktu in the kingdom of Mali had a full university complete with books, scrolls and damn accurate maps, and this was in the 11th century!

Sorry to rant,peoples, just trying to edjumakate the ignorant.
 
furious said:
Dude! Please read some history before you make a comment like this about an entire continent. Africans were the first to forge metal, introduce monotheism, established trade routes as far as China, introduced mathematical theories, music, advanced agriculture techniques. The city of Timbuktu in the kingdom of Mali had a full university complete with books, scrolls and damn accurate maps, and this was in the 11th century!

Sorry to rant,peoples, just trying to edjumakate the ignorant.

Don't hand us that revisionist history bull. Now in schools the African sare claiming all of the advancements and inventions of Egypt. Egypt is part of teh African continent, but the people there are a different racial group and were way ahead of most cultures thousands of years ago. The modern-day people of African descent trying to latch onto Ancient Egypt's coattails is an atrocity.
 
i wish i remembered what it was that you edited out. the fact is mr? is not a smart person. id go as far to say he lacks independent thought and probably works in the fast food business flipping burgers. the fact is that the blacks take over the white farms and they dont know shit about farming. the country is fucked up so i dont see it as racist to call them idiots. they are shitting on successful white business just because they are using the whites as scapegoats for their shitty lives. i saw the president interviewed and he is a racist scumbag that deserves to die. HE HAS GIVEN FULL PARDONS TO ALL CRIMES AGAINST WHITE FARMERS EXCEPT FOR MURDER. which means that beating whites almost to death is legal and supported there. to support that is a demonstration of what an idiot mr? is.
 
WeaponX... are you telling me that the people from Palistine are not of a diffrent race than the others living in Isreal? The good people from Palistine are from Persian decent... they share no traits with the jewish people living in Isreal.
That would be like saying people from Mexico share the racial traits as those from Spain. No Sir... I am not trying to start an argument.. but I have strong feelings for the subject of Palistine. So I have met and listened to the stories of these people.... In closing.. you are right.. the race itself would be called Persian. But they are very diffrent from their opposition.... unlike the Catholics and Prodestants of Northern Ireland.
 
Weapon X said:


Don't hand us that revisionist history bull. Now in schools the African sare claiming all of the advancements and inventions of Egypt. Egypt is part of teh African continent, but the people there are a different racial group and were way ahead of most cultures thousands of years ago. The modern-day people of African descent trying to latch onto Ancient Egypt's coattails is an atrocity.

Where do you get your info from? Mali was a Sub-Saharan kingdom, many thousands of miles away from Egypt, I was not referring to Egypt. I will have to look up the information on who wrote this, but it was a DUTCH explorer who documented Timbuktu, not an African.
The Egypt you see today is far different from the Egypt that was around 2500 years ago. After numerous Arabic invasions and climate changes, the land is now settled by the Arabic people, just like South Africa is settled by Caucasians. Ever wonder why the noses of the Sphinxes were shot off by Naploeans men? Cause they resembled AFRICANS.

"the fact is that the blacks take over the white farms and they dont know shit about farming."
The Spanish went after certain tribes knowing they had advanced agricultural techniques. They went after certain tribes knowing they had metal-working techniques.

Again, I'm just trying to offer a little more edjumakation on the subject. I'm perpetually a student and still learning, but it seems others have such strong opinions on events thehave little knowledge of.

I think what is happening to the Caucasian settlers is very sad. We as the human race have learned absolutley nothing over the last 3000 years about peaceful co-existance. I would have hoped that Mandela would have learned to turn the other cheek, not employ Hammurabi's Code (sp?)
 
Safari Scholarship Reinvents History
by Ilana Mercer

Hollywood is usually the one to peddle historical fiction, which the public doesn’t hesitate to accept as Bible from Sinai. For some time now, Hollywood has been getting stiff competition from unexpected quarters. Now, coming to an African Studies department near you is some startling information: The venerable Greeks, the founders of Western Civilization, stole their philosophical and scientific know-how from Egypt. Egypt, and not Greece, is the fount of western tradition.

In an unchronicled trip, Aristotle sojourned to Egypt with Alexander the Great, snuck books out of the Alexandrian library, and slapped his name on these books, parlaying them as his own. He wasn’t alone. Socrates, Pythagoras and Plato were plagiarizers in their own right. Is there no end to the antics of those Pale, Patriarchal, Bad Boys?

You may never have given much thought to the skin color of the ancient Egyptians. Artifacts at least indicate that they were a diverse people, more Benetton than black. So it must come as a surprise that the Egyptians were actually Black Africans. Elizabeth Taylor had no business playing Cleopatra. The Macedonian of the Ptolemaic bloodline was really a long limbed Black woman. Even the Sphinx had Negroid features. That is until it fell prey to one of the first ‘documented’, racially motivated, acts of vandalism. The facial crater the Sphinx stoically bears, comes from being socked on the nose by Napoleon’s racist troops. There go those Bad Boys again.

This mythistory is called Afrocentrism. It’s promoted by a number of undistinguished African academics, and taught to students from grade school through the university level all over North America. Accordingly, Africans have an ineffable claim against Europeans. For how does one put a price on the mugging of a civilization?

Unlike the equally nonsensical Holocaust denial, which immediately raises establishment and media ire, this remedial revisionism has been met with little objections. For the most part, rebutting this bunk has fallen to a Greek Classicist by the name of Mary Lefkowitz.

Afrocentrism circulates in the form of books such as Black Athena by Cornell professor, Martin Bernal, Stolen Legacy by George G. M. James, and the school tracts known as the Portland African-American Baseline Essays.

For ‘scholars’ whose mission it is to promote a view of African superiority, Afrocentrists are indeed doing a poor job. The Science Baseline Essay claims no less that "thousands of years ago Egyptians"- cum blacks "flew in electroplated gold gliders, knew accurately the distance to the sun, and discovered the Theory of Evolution. According to the Senegalese Afrocentrist, Cheikh Anta Diop, Africans invented everything from Judaism, to engineering, to astronomy, including dialectical materialism.

One question: These folk persistently aver that practically every reprehensible occurrence in history is an excrescence of the Great White and his linear thinking. Put differently, if "Eurocentric" culture is so odious, why do Africans want to lay claim to it? By coveting it, aren’t Afrocentrists providing the ultimate validation of Western Civilization?

Entire civilizations, moreover, are not the item of choice for the kleptomaniac. As Mary Lefkowitz points out in Not Out of Africa, "If the Greeks had learned their philosophy from a large theoretical literature produced by Egyptian writers, surely some trace of that literature would have remained in Egypt".

Don’t look for congruity where there is only African chauvinism and the approval of the lickspittle, postmodern, pseudo-scholars of the academe.

The methodology of the Afrocentrist consists in neglecting chronology, treating myths as history, and using citations fraudulently so that these don’t support the crux of the argument. In Afrocentric works, hypothesis morphs into fact, authorities that don’t bolster a thesis are recruited in its service, and absence of proof becomes evidence of conspiracy. Dogged repetition of the lie is key, as are the vicious ad hominem attacks leveled at the few scholars who dare confront the evidence.

Not least of the jarring deceptions is a reference to the Egyptian Mystery System from whence the Greeks allegedly stole their philosophy: the reference comes not from an authentic historical text, but from eighteenth-century French fiction and Freemasonry. Furthermore, the city of Alexandria was founded only after Alexander’s conquest of Egypt, and the library from where Aristotle allegedly pilfered his genius was founded after the philosopher’s death.

Mythical thinking thrives and is nurtured in a culture which eschews objective truth. Where once there was an understanding that there exists a reality independent of the human observer, students are now taught that ‘truth’ is a social construction, a function of the power and position a person holds in society.

Casting fact and objective truth as mere opinion, or as no more than a perspective, is a handy bit of egalitarianism: if nothing is immutably true, then all positions are but a matter of preference and can be said to be equally valid. This standardless intellectual vortex is the scaffolding for Afrocentrism; the public school system its perfect foil.

John S. Mill pointed out that "a general State education is a mere contrivance for moulding people to be exactly like one another." Indeed, public school indoctrination goes a long way towards explaining how orthodoxies like multiculturalism, radical feminism, and state granted entitlements couched as human rights, become articles of faith to most people.

This intellectual chaos results from the chokehold government has on education. Pedagogues have in many instances approved of Afrocentrism because it is seen as the means through which to increase self-esteem among young Africans. Why not? Haven’t other self-styled victim groups – notably natives and women – had their suppurating historical wounds tended with similar curricular concessions? The raison d’être of public schooling lends itself just as well to teaching Holocaust Denial in schools in order to allay the guilt that plagues students of German descent.

Adapted to the public school system, history is doomed to be more palliative than factual.

If black students want to be taught that their apparent superior perceptual gifts come from an abundance of melanin in their skin, that’s okay. But the free market – not the public teat – ought to be the proper place to exercise this educational option. Other Hollow Earth Society movements fund their own flights of fancy. So should Afrocentrists.
 
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