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Okay i have been off my cycle for about 12 days now and im still getting this not being able to sleep.. do u think i can mark this one up to my sleeplessness not to steroids or how long does it take for my prog levels to level out? :worried:

Also i wake up EVERY night at the exact same time 3:42 so i am thinking this could be a psychological thing?

this sleeping for 45 minutes a night for the last 2 weeks is taking a HUGE toll on me.. i've tried everything, recently tried heavy duty sleeping drugs, knocked me out for 18 hours.. not doing those again :p

I know i just posted this like 4 days ago but not being able to sleep sucks big balls.. k for helpful info.. also the natural supplements arent working!
 
nipples said:
Blaze up a fatty and sit back and eat a fat bowl of ice cream

dont smoke and ive tried eating a snack before bed didnt work and ive tried eating a big meal and it didnt work.. ill fall asleep and wake right up 30 minutes later :rolleyes:
 
my guess would be phychological at this point, if health is fine, bp normal, ect, the mind is a powerful thing bro, i would also lay off the stong sleeping pills. could just be you got yourself so worked up over not being able to sleep, that your mind wont let you. I would just make a busy day for myself, get a good lift in, eat a big meal, get a peice of ass, or jerk off, then at bedtime dont even think about sleeping (or lack of) put your mind on somthing else, think about winning the lottery and what you do with the $ or some shit like that. if nothing works go to doc. good luck to you bro.
 
sprinter86 said:
Take a Val ...best nights sleep you will ever have...guaranteed.

if it is phychological, yes the val. will knock him out, but then still wont be able to sleep without them, not somthing you want to become dependent on.
 
nutsack get some benzo's. its the progesterone, i had the same thing for 2 weeks out of my deca cycle. i am 5-6 weeks off now and its fine, do u wake up a lot when u do fall asleep. totally normal.
 
LOL yes i'd like normal healthy sleep not drug induced sleep also don't want to become dependent on anything.. thanks for advice
 
i've always had a problem falling asleep and when I got on gear, it became worse. I remember I would lay down to sleep, fall aslepp and 1 hour later i'm wide awake... The doc prescribed me ambiens and they do the trick! but you are right when you say natural sleep over induced sleep...but to me sleep is sleep when you are in lack of..
 
sparetire said:
i've always had a problem falling asleep and when I got on gear, it became worse. I remember I would lay down to sleep, fall aslepp and 1 hour later i'm wide awake... The doc prescribed me ambiens and they do the trick! but you are right when you say natural sleep over induced sleep...but to me sleep is sleep when you are in lack of..
so true, thats what u gotta understand, if you arent' sleeping it is much more sensible to take pills and fall asleep than get no sleep at all. i mean your not gonna grow if you don't sleep.
 
I am on ambien's now.. they worked real good when i started but now only getting me 2-3 hours of sleep when i take 25mg's which is x2 the recommended dose.. i guess ill give the PCT another week or so and hope it gets better
 
nutsnack said:
I am on ambien's now.. they worked real good when i started but now only getting me 2-3 hours of sleep when i take 25mg's which is x2 the recommended dose.. i guess ill give the PCT another week or so and hope it gets better
ambien works well for alot of people. it made me fall asleep while going thru what you are. but i would still wake up. i feel like it wears off. you need something like remeron or seroquel, or some good old benzos.
 
Best thing for sleep for me is Klonopin( clonazepam). Good medium-length benzo. Granted, relying on these for sleep for too long will lead to tolerance and possible addiction, but if you can't sleep at all, it's better than nothing. Also, if you use them short-term as indicated, 7-10 days during PCT, that will help restore normal sleep pattern while your hormone levels normalize. After that, you should be able to fall asleep more normally. Also, you could switch between ambien and klonopin, as ambien is a non-benzodiazepine sedative hypnotic, same basic method of action as klonopin but a different compound, should lower the tolerance you get and lessen chances of addiction. Good luck bro, I've had insomnia, HORRIBLE insomnia, off and on for 5 years now, ever since I stopped my anti-siezure meds, and klonopin saved my life! Try going over 70hrs without sleep two or three times in a row... it sucks, you probably know what I mean :)
 
Melatonin supps are good too. All natural, if you're not into using the drugs. May sound funny but tanning naturally produces melatonin also (and yes I know the difference between melanin and melatonin.)
Try that also, and since you're staying in a bed for a while it may help to train you to ease your mind. You probably got a lot going through your head nad your mind is over active.
 
Tux said:
Best thing for sleep for me is Klonopin( clonazepam). Good medium-length benzo. Granted, relying on these for sleep for too long will lead to tolerance and possible addiction, but if you can't sleep at all, it's better than nothing. Also, if you use them short-term as indicated, 7-10 days during PCT, that will help restore normal sleep pattern while your hormone levels normalize. After that, you should be able to fall asleep more normally. Also, you could switch between ambien and klonopin, as ambien is a non-benzodiazepine sedative hypnotic, same basic method of action as klonopin but a different compound, should lower the tolerance you get and lessen chances of addiction. Good luck bro, I've had insomnia, HORRIBLE insomnia, off and on for 5 years now, ever since I stopped my anti-siezure meds, and klonopin saved my life! Try going over 70hrs without sleep two or three times in a row... it sucks, you probably know what I mean :)
feel u there bro. i have never been able to fall asleep. i take remeron and klonopin as well. saved my life. what anti seizure's did u take, lamictal?
 
Neurontin(gabapentin) at 1600mg/day I think, before that Tegretol at double the normal dose, I don't remember what that dosage was though.
 
Tux said:
Neurontin(gabapentin) at 1600mg/day I think, before that Tegretol at double the normal dose, I don't remember what that dosage was though.
yeah i took neurontin, lamictal works much better for me and stabilizes my mood
 
Try setting your alarm one hour early everyday. This will hopefully make you more tired at the end of the day. Good luck. Nighty-Night!!!
 
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