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xanax, xtc & alcohol on AS? help

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donkey k0ng

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i'm going to start t400 and reforvit-b in 3 weeks. i like to get fucked up though. are xanax bad on your body while on AS. what about xtc? i know it dehydrates you but anything else. what about pain pills and alcohol? please help
 
god what is the point? Are u taking AS to get yourself more fucked up or to help your body grow? If it's to grow throw that other shit out the window or else you will not benefit from it.
 
Gotta agree with cure on this one...save the shit until after the cycle. I am now officially a hypocrite...

BTW, cure I think I'm gonna be headin up to Montreal for New Year's, any places I should check out?
 
Why bother even doing AS. XTC is a definite no no. If you want your body to look good kick the shit out the window. I think you should get your partying stage over with before you even consider AS.
 
This question definately falls into the undedicated moronic category. If you lack the discipline to abstain from physique damiging drugs then why are you bothering with AS. Xanax is fine...keep it under control though. Alchohol is worse than X. Drinking is about the most damaging thing you could do to your physique on or off cycle. X once in a new moon is fine. But this does not excuse you from the sacrifice neccessary to have a good cycle. If you like to frequently get fucked up you're in the wrong game. This is all about discipline and dedication regardless of your goals. If you're running a cycle the gym takes prescednce in your life.
 
You guys are so smart?!?!?!

Dude, painkillers are fine, just in moderation, xanxax is cool too, but steer clear of the tabs (X) and alcohol, both have catabolic properties, .......IF YOU'RE NOT DEDICATED, BLAH BLAH BLAH......I HAVE BEEN LIFTING FOR 12 YEARS COMPETING FOR 3.....AND I DON'T KNOW OF ANYONE ON THE PRO OR AMATEUR BODYBUILDING CIRCUIT WHO DOESN'T LIKE THEIR PAINKILLERS......just be careful bro bery addictive, I had a oxycodone problem a ways back.......PEACE OUT....:angel:
 
this will be my 6th cycle. i've been working out for 5 years but only getting fucked up for 1 year. xtc about every 3 months and alcohol with xanax once a weekend. the reason i take pills is because i know that alcohol is bad for my body. so instead of a 12 pack by itself, i take a xanax and a 6 pack will fuck me up just as badly.
 
Time to decide.

Seems to me that it's time to decide whether you are a boy or a man. If you are going to mess with AS...the potion of life...then you'd better act like a man. If you are still a boy, then you won't benefit from AS anyway. If you want to play with fun drugs in moderation, that is one thing. However, little boys that spend their time going out and "getting fucked up" are wasting their time with AS. If you want to get big, get big. If you want to get fucked up, then do that. You can't do both very well.
 
I'm not here to flame you but AS are mostly a matter of dedication so I think alcohol and drugs have no place during a cycle. There's a time to party and another one to enhance your body.
 
I would have to say that excessive alcohol use may put an extra load on your liver if you are using 17-aa As. The X will hurt you in the sense that you will have post trip depression and not want to go to the gym. Also dehydration will be a problem along with loss of appetite. The Xanax will not hurt a thing. I gusss that if it is once in a while it will be ok. But if it is part of your lifestyle than why use AS? They really will not work under those conditions.
 
ive been taking valium/ambien for sleep. Hydrocodone's for chilling. However, I have not touched Alcohol for 'many moons' and ya know what? This cycle (4) is kicking ass. 29lbs up after 8 weeks, BF still under 8%.

Do painkillers hurt gains? Hell no.
 
All of these drugs you are mentioning are not condusive to bodybuilding in any way. You can grow and use pain killers but it will catch up to you and eventually you will not lift at all any more. I have seen this happen so many times. I trained and competed while a nubain addict for two years and did very well. However, it caught up to me and by the third year I stopped training and started into harder pain pills like vicoden, percocet and oxycontin. It may take a while but the shit will get you and fuck you up eventually. As for health reasons, everyone is so down on alcohol and AS but the tylenol in vicoden and percocet is so much worse for your liver then alcohol. So taking vicoden while on a cycle will definitly put tremendous strain on your liver, esp. at the doses most need to get a good buzz. If you really want to bodybuild try to stop the partying, it will probably help your life in other ways anyway.(take it from someone who learned the hard way)
 
Suspension said:
ive been taking valium/ambien for sleep. Hydrocodone's for chilling. However, I have not touched Alcohol for 'many moons' and ya know what? This cycle (4) is kicking ass. 29lbs up after 8 weeks, BF still under 8%.

Do painkillers hurt gains? Hell no.
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The tylenol in the vicoden is much worse for your liver then alcohol.
 
Very true... There are many people who are waiting for liver transplants because of pain killer abuse. What many people do not realize, is it is not the oxcodone but the acetominifen that will do you in. It worse than any AS or alcohol.
 
scott825 said:
Are you ficking kidding!!I cannot stand dumasses like yourself.

You dont deserve the right to do a cycle
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if i wanted a smart ass comment, i'd bench 405# then beat it out of you. BOY!!!
 
anything is moderation is ok, but I wouldn't recommend it while on a cycle. why spend all that $$$ and time only to limit your gains by "playing" to much.

Wait until after the cycle.
 
That is very good that you have hydrocodone with no tylenol. Much safer. But the shit will catch up to you, no matter how in control you think you are, and when it does in is not a pleasant time.
 
THIS IS ONLY MY THIRD CYCLE. I'M JUST EXPERIMENTING

I GUESS.if i wanted a smart ass comment, i'd bench 405# then beat it out of you. BOY!!!


this will be my 6th cycle. i've been working out for 5 years but only getting fucked up for 1 year

Mabye it's just me but this guy doesn't sound intelligent enough to be experimenting with steroids or any other drugs for that matter. I rarely post and never flame but I can't help myself on this one. I guess if he grew like his stories(# of cycles grew from 3-6 in approximately 2 months) then he'd be a pro and wouldn't lash out at others for submitting their opinions to asanine questions.

In a previous post he bashed the hell out of T-400, saying that it was total crap, worst of the three cycles he's done.

Now, only two months later, he's going to use T-400 again in his 6th cycle. Must be some really short cycles.
 
first time i ever called anybody out & can't even get a response, this isn't any fun. Anyway donkeykong, do a little more research, learn a little more, and dont talk shit to respectible bros. when you do nothing but contradict yourself.
 
Valiums (which is what xanax is) are not bad at all. As a matter of fact I am on prescription Daizepam right now. From what I understand, valiums (which are actually mild muscle relaxers) have anti-catabolic effects when taken prior to bedtime.

Alcohol is definitely a bad thing while on gear, although I am guilty of throwing down a few every now and then.

Don't know how x will effect you.
 
"XANAX IS A NERVE PILL. VALIUM IS A MUSCLE RELAXER. SLINGBLADE IS A RETARD IN A MOVIE."

Actually Donkeyshit, xanax(alprazolam) and valium(diazpam) are considered mild tranquilizers. valium however is also used for mild pain relief in addition to being a tranquilizer.

And it is sad when a RETARD points out to everyone that you are full of shit and don't know what you're talking about. Hell you can't even keep track of how many cycles you've done in the past 2 months.

"THIS IS ONLY MY THIRD CYCLE. I'M JUST EXPERIMENTING "

"this will be my 6th cycle. i've been working out for 5 years but only getting fucked up for 1 year "

Before you call someone else a retard you should first be able to use simple math(adding, subtracting etc)

"Are you ficking kidding!!I cannot stand dumasses like yourself.

You dont deserve the right to do a cycle"

I think scott825 made a really good point here.
 
don't peg me.. this question really is for a friend. What abouy Oxy's on Test/etc ?? OC ..
 
man if your going to do all that other crap save your cash and don't bother with steriods. in the past i have used alcohol while on a cycle even though i knew better and i wasted my money by not getting the results i should have. i'm not against a beer here and there but partying every weekend and getting drunk plus the xtc is for sure going to hold your potential back.

prioritize your goals before you start your next cycle.
 
eating some X beans every now and then is ok, thing is it dehydrates you, do not drink to much water on X , you can litterly die and drown to death, maybe sip a water bottle all night do not chug it, just pay attention to how much you drink, maybe 3 bottles full? thing with X is when you come off you do not want to eat, it kills your appetite, SO eat a largew meal 4-5 hours before your drop, also when you get home double up on protien shakes if you can, maybe 1 every 2 hours? you will loose weight from rolls. so it wont hurt you but it dosent help! keep it minimal! it is hard to not drink but rolls are better than drinking alot imo!
hope i can help,
later keep clubbin:bawling:
 
Christ almighty, xanax and valium(diazepam) are tranquilizers prescribed for everything from muscle spasms to anxiety disorders though not as much anymore for the latter due to SRI's. I've been prescribed valium three times in the last 5 weeks and don't like it much, although it wasn't my first time taking it all it makes you do is sleep and give you a hangover. PK's aren't bad but like the other bros said watch the amount of acetaminophen or motrin you're taking in. And believe you me watch you're fuckin tolerance, especially to painkillers. Although physical dependence does not equal addiction, physical dependence is bad enough. I had knee surgery 3 months ago and was on PK's most of the time. Just about the time I'm getting weened off of them I get rear ended by some asshole not paying attention to the road while at a dead stop pulling into work (he was going about 20-25mph) and got whiplash. That equals more painkillers. Now I'm not wanting to take them cause you come to think "hey, aint no thang, I got pain but all I gotta do is reach into a script bottle and pull out whatever and it'll be gone". Anyhoo IMHO you should'nt drink HEAVILY while on. I believe in chilling with my brother maybe once a week and drinking a couple brews watching a DVD (mind you I said a couple which means 2 at the most). But don't push it past that. The X? I just gotta ask myself why anyone would think of doing this while on cycle, why anyone would do it period! Just stay focused, train, and take EVERYTHING ELSE in moderation. Hope ya grow.
 
xanax and valium are both in the drug class of benzodiazepines. it affects the limbic system of the brain that controls emotion. it is used in the treatment of a) nervousness or tension
b) muscle spasm
c) convulsive disorders
d) insomnia
hot weather and heavy excersize will reduce the excretion and can cause overdose, so be careful.
 
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