xanax, xtc & alcohol on AS? help

[pitbullstl]

You guys are so smart?!?!?!

Dude, painkillers are fine, just in moderation, xanxax is cool too, but steer clear of the tabs (X) and alcohol, both have catabolic properties, .......IF YOU'RE NOT DEDICATED, BLAH BLAH BLAH......I HAVE BEEN LIFTING FOR 12 YEARS COMPETING FOR 3.....AND I DON'T KNOW OF ANYONE ON THE PRO OR AMATEUR BODYBUILDING CIRCUIT WHO DOESN'T LIKE THEIR PAINKILLERS......just be careful bro bery addictive, I had a oxycodone problem a ways back.......PEACE OUT....

 

[donkey k0ng]

this will be my 6th cycle. i've been working out for 5 years but only getting fucked up for 1 year. xtc about every 3 months and alcohol with xanax once a weekend. the reason i take pills is because i know that alcohol is bad for my body. so instead of a 12 pack by itself, i take a xanax and a 6 pack will fuck me up just as badly.

 

[StillGreg]

Time to decide.

Seems to me that it's time to decide whether you are a boy or a man. If you are going to mess with AS...the potion of life...then you'd better act like a man. If you are still a boy, then you won't benefit from AS anyway. If you want to play with fun drugs in moderation, that is one thing. However, little boys that spend their time going out and "getting fucked up" are wasting their time with AS. If you want to get big, get big. If you want to get fucked up, then do that. You can't do both very well.

 

[manny78]

I'm not here to flame you but AS are mostly a matter of dedication so I think alcohol and drugs have no place during a cycle. There's a time to party and another one to enhance your body.

 

[LONE_AZ]

I would have to say that excessive alcohol use may put an extra load on your liver if you are using 17-aa As. The X will hurt you in the sense that you will have post trip depression and not want to go to the gym. Also dehydration will be a problem along with loss of appetite. The Xanax will not hurt a thing. I gusss that if it is once in a while it will be ok. But if it is part of your lifestyle than why use AS? They really will not work under those conditions.

 

[Suspension]

ive been taking valium/ambien for sleep. Hydrocodone's for chilling. However, I have not touched Alcohol for 'many moons' and ya know what? This cycle (4) is kicking ass. 29lbs up after 8 weeks, BF still under 8%.

Do painkillers hurt gains? Hell no.

 

[pgerardone]

All of these drugs you are mentioning are not condusive to bodybuilding in any way. You can grow and use pain killers but it will catch up to you and eventually you will not lift at all any more. I have seen this happen so many times. I trained and competed while a nubain addict for two years and did very well. However, it caught up to me and by the third year I stopped training and started into harder pain pills like vicoden, percocet and oxycontin. It may take a while but the shit will get you and fuck you up eventually. As for health reasons, everyone is so down on alcohol and AS but the tylenol in vicoden and percocet is so much worse for your liver then alcohol. So taking vicoden while on a cycle will definitly put tremendous strain on your liver, esp. at the doses most need to get a good buzz. If you really want to bodybuild try to stop the partying, it will probably help your life in other ways anyway.(take it from someone who learned the hard way)

 

[pgerardone]

ive been taking valium/ambien for sleep. Hydrocodone's for chilling. However, I have not touched Alcohol for 'many moons' and ya know what? This cycle (4) is kicking ass. 29lbs up after 8 weeks, BF still under 8%.

Do painkillers hurt gains? Hell no.

The tylenol in the vicoden is much worse for your liver then alcohol.

 

[LONE_AZ]

Very true... There are many people who are waiting for liver transplants because of pain killer abuse. What many people do not realize, is it is not the oxcodone but the acetominifen that will do you in. It worse than any AS or alcohol.

 

[Suspension]

The tylenol in the vicoden is much worse for your liver then alcohol.

the vics i have dont have tylenol.