Would you support a constitutional amendment banning HAND GUNS?

[Bikini Mod]

She was just trying to work in on a 3 some. Cop dyke bitch

Was the freakiest thing EVUH... You wanna talk about yer "WELCOME TO TEXAS"!! Here is a cop RECOMMENDING that both my husband and I purchase firearms and shoot them recreationally!

Sure the shit ain't NJ, that's for DAMNED SURE.

 

[gjohnson5]

That's even worse. How do you mistake a bird for a human?

Anyway auto manufacturers are most definitely adding safeguards into automobiles from intoxication , auto parking , air bags , diagnostics with on screen displays , etc

What do you think these things are for , looks?

Start with cars then. More deaths every year than the entire vietnam war.

Be practical, don't knee jerk. Get the stuff that *REALLY* kills.


Also, Cheney was bird hunting.

 

[jh1]

That's even worse. How do you mistake a bird for a human?

Anyway auto manufacturers are most definitely adding safeguards into automobiles from intoxication , auto parking , air bags , diagnostics with on screen displays , etc

What do you think these things are for , looks?

I could have SWORE that gun manufactures also took safety precautions as well.

Safety switches have been around for ever, guns are also sold with locks these days. There are production guns that require fingerprint identification, rings worn by the owner, RFID, etc.

What do you expect them to do? Make the trigger pull decision for them? WTF?

What are the makers of knives doing?


And he didn't mistake a bird for a human. You're being ridiculous. During bird hunting one of the inherint dangers is that when the flock flys overhead and you are tracking them, it's very VERY easy to end up getting your line of sight close to the firing line. Idiots actually do, then pull the trigger. Dumb.

Has nothing to do with what we are talking about. Kids have been burned by hot oil on accident as well. What are oil manufacturers doing to make their products safer? GIve me a break.

 

[billfred]

I could have SWORE that gun manufactures also took safety precautions as well.

Safety switches have been around for ever, guns are also sold with locks these days. There are production guns that require fingerprint identification, rings worn by the owner, RFID, etc.

What do you expect them to do? Make the trigger pull decision for them? WTF?

What are the makers of knives doing?


And he didn't mistake a bird for a human. You're being ridiculous. During bird hunting one of the inherint dangers is that when the flock flys overhead and you are tracking them, it's very VERY easy to end up getting your line of sight close to the firing line. Idiots actually do, then pull the trigger. Dumb.

Has nothing to do with what we are talking about. Kids have been burned by hot oil on accident as well. What are oil manufacturers doing to make their products safer? GIve me a break.

do you own a handgun?

 

[jh1]

I don't disagree with all that but don't you think you could accomplish all that and make the streets safer if you did not have hand guns?

You going to go up against an american militia with your glock - get real.

No I don't beleive disarming the country makes it safer.

And no I don't plan to take on the military with my glock. Again that's a silly analogy.

Nobody expected George Washington to take on the british with his dueling pistol either.

 

[jh1]

do you own a handgun?

Yes.

 

[billfred]

Yes.

Kewl - go pop that mofo

 

[gjohnson5]

We've went on a tangent.

I wasn't talking about guns having safeguards. There is no safeguard on a wepaon that will stop you from shooting the wrong thing...

I was talking about society having safeguards against you shooting the wrong thing or shooting anything at all.

I could have SWORE that gun manufactures also took safety precautions as well.

Safety switches have been around for ever, guns are also sold with locks these days. There are production guns that require fingerprint identification, rings worn by the owner, RFID, etc.

What do you expect them to do? Make the trigger pull decision for them? WTF?

What are the makers of knives doing?


And he didn't mistake a bird for a human. You're being ridiculous. During bird hunting one of the inherint dangers is that when the flock flys overhead and you are tracking them, it's very VERY easy to end up getting your line of sight close to the firing line. Idiots actually do, then pull the trigger. Dumb.

Has nothing to do with what we are talking about. Kids have been burned by hot oil on accident as well. What are oil manufacturers doing to make their products safer? GIve me a break.

 

[jh1]

We've went on a tangent.

I wasn't talking about guns having safeguards. There is no safeguard on a wepaon that will stop you from shooting the wrong thing...

I was talking about society having safeguards against you shooting the wrong thing or shooting anything at all.

And you are talking about banning weapons because... oh my god... get this... they cause death.

So do cars. Ban them. They cause much more death.

 

[gjohnson5]

No , I agree that guns don't cause death. Users cause death and I believe a system without safeguards is asking for trouble.

Well we have safeguards , they are just wayyy lacking

And you are talking about banning weapons because... oh my god... get this... they cause death.

So do cars. Ban them. They cause much more death.

 

[jh1]

No , I agree that guns don't cause death. Users cause death and I believe a system without safeguards is asking for trouble.

Well we have safeguards , they are just wayyy lacking

Well , I hate to say it , but in IT we design networks with the intent of saving users from themselves. It is done because "something is wrong" if the system doesn't somehow auto correct for user's mistakes. We do alot but more if requested by the users and managers

Unfortunately I take guns in the same manner. It's clear that our political structure has no safe guards for mental issues , temporary mental issues, anger , stress , jealousy and down right stupidity. Dick Cheney is a perfect example of someone mistaking a deer *LOL* with a human

It has nothing to do with dictatorship. It has everything to do with protecting you from yourself.

Okay. What is your suggestion?

I am trying to reconcile your posts and make sense of where you trying to take this, because this previous post seemed to support complete bannage based on the quote you were responding to of RedGuru's.

 

[gjohnson5]

What's to reconcile??? Sounds like a classic case of you reading what you wanna read and hearing what they want to hear

Well , I hate to say it , but in IT we design networks with the intent of saving users from themselves.

Unfortunately I take guns in the same manner. It's clear that our political structure has no safe guards for mental issues , temporary mental issues, anger , stress , jealousy and down right stupidity. Dick Cheney is a perfect example of someone mistaking a deer *LOL* with a human

That's even worse. How do you mistake a bird for a human?

I don't have an answer for stupidity , incompetence, mistakes and mental issues except one live their life to the fullest and with the intent of not making mistakes. I have no answers for the above. All I know is that In the areas mentioned , the way you safeguard users is to take away variables which can lead to a dangerous situation.

If you don't want a kid burning themselves with cooking oil as you mentioned , simply keep the kid away from the oil.

Okay. What is your suggestion

I am trying to reconcile your posts and make sense of where you trying to take this, because this previous post seemed to support complete bannage based on the quote you were responding to of RedGuru's.

 

[musclemom]

And you are talking about banning weapons because... oh my god... get this... they cause death.

So do cars. Ban them. They cause much more death.

I dunno, that's the way our government operates sometimes, seriously.

Hear me out, I only need to say one word and, while you might disagree with me and be able to argue the point, you'll also have to vaguely concede the point:

EPHEDRA

I mean seriously, how many people REALLY died from taking it? Versus deaths than can be linked directly to guns, cars, alcohol or cigarettes? Shit, how many people die from head trauma because the ride motorcycles in a state that doesn't mandate helmets?

As far as I'm concerned, legalize it all, marijuana and steroids included, and leave us alone. Raise the driving age, lower the drinking age and stop legislating behavior.

 

[heavy_duty]

Thread of the week karma for heavy_duty
just sayin

LMAO

 

[redsamurai]

damn!! that cop honey don't actually look half bad...........did she color her hair? She doesn't look old in the face...............that's kind of my type of woman, at least from the picture. Got any more?

True story:

on 23 DEC of last year the Old Grump and I were last minute Christmas shopping in downtown Grapevine (Texas) when a rather large police woman (she was well over 6 foot) was sorta following us around a shop. Both of us were like, "Did you shoplift 'er sumthin? Any warrants that you forgot to tell me about?" Can't remember who said what to whom first but the police officer was only being "friendly". Back in NJ if a cop had followed us around like that, I'd be waiting to be thrown on the floor, hands behind my back. Next thing you know she is recommending that we both take up shooting together as a hobby. "Lotsa couples 'round here do it. They find it relaxing."

Good Lord how I LOVE Texas.

 

[redsamurai]

No I don't beleive disarming the country makes it safer.

And no I don't plan to take on the military with my glock. Again that's a silly analogy.

Nobody expected George Washington to take on the british with his dueling pistol either.

wait a minute, GW was a dual weilder?? He was balling out hitman stylie?? Get the fuck out of here!! New respect for that guy....

 

[mountain muscle]

Well , I hate to say it , but in IT we design networks with the intent of saving users from themselves. It is done because "something is wrong" if the system doesn't somehow auto correct for user's mistakes. We do alot but more if requested by the users and managers

Unfortunately I take guns in the same manner. It's clear that our political structure has no safe guards for mental issues , temporary mental issues, anger , stress , jealousy and down right stupidity. Dick Cheney is a perfect example of someone mistaking a deer *LOL* with a human
It has nothing to do with dictatorship. It has everything to do with protecting you from yourself.

With the risk of being accused of hounding you again, it was bird hunting, not deer. Bird hunting is quite different and can be dicey with a group of people. A shotgun spreads out when fired. Very easy to have accidents when everyone is not on the same page.
It is like a QB, caught up in the moment in a close game, missing his receiver and throwing right to the defense.
I do love how this was used as a political point for the liberals though.

Go Broncos!

 

[jh1]

What's to reconcile??? Sounds like a classic case of you reading what you wanna read and hearing what they want to hear








I don't have an answer for stupidity , incompetence, mistakes and mental issues except one live their life to the fullest and with the intent of not making mistakes. I have no answers for the above. All I know is that In the areas mentioned , the way you safeguard users is to take away variables which can lead to a dangerous situation.

If you don't want a kid burning themselves with cooking oil as you mentioned , simply keep the kid away from the oil.

I guess my understanding was that you supported a ban of weapons? Specifically handguns?

Is that incorrect?

 

[redsamurai]

With the risk of being accused of hounding you again, it was bird hunting, not deer. Bird hunting is quite different and can be dicey with a group of people. A shotgun spreads out when fired. Very easy to have accidents when everyone is not on the same page.
It is like a QB, caught up in the moment in a close game, missing his receiver and throwing right to the defense.
I do love how this was used as a political point for the liberals though.

Go Broncos!

I agree, it shouldn't have been used politically.........but the circumstances surrounding the event you have to admit are hilarious. I mean the guy shoots a good friend in the face, being the VP of the U.S you pretty much have to report that right away.........to wait as long as they did makes you look pretty bad. And then they got the poor guy who took it to the face to get infront of microphones and actually APOLOGIZE to the cheney's for what he put them through.......wtf?? You get shot in the face through NO fault of your own............and you have to apologize because the guy that shot you doesn't want to come off like the stupid cocksucker everyone has always suspected he is?? Now that's fucking hilarious!!-

 

[gjohnson5]

A post from you is always expected anytime I say something about politics.
You're alright despite what everyone says about you...

Anyway I find it negligent under any circumstance and any weapon possible the idea of thinking "kill the bird" first and "where's my guys" second

It doesn't make any difference as far as I can see

With the risk of being accused of hounding you again, it was bird hunting, not deer. Bird hunting is quite different and can be dicey with a group of people. A shotgun spreads out when fired. Very easy to have accidents when everyone is not on the same page.
It is like a QB, caught up in the moment in a close game, missing his receiver and throwing right to the defense.
I do love how this was used as a political point for the liberals though.

Go Broncos!

 

[Mr. dB]

I harbor a certain amount of suspicion for people who think they need a gun to protect themselves. I suspect that many of them are people who take unnecessary risks in life.

However, I am far more suspicious of the motives of anyone who would presume to take away from us the Constitutional Right to Bear Arms.

 

[ceo]

I thought that said "HAND JOBS" at first...

 

[mountain muscle]

Fuck yeah!

"Just to piss you off" I am moving your thread back....

Manny

 

[Powerbuilder333]

Fuck yeah!

"Just to piss you off" I am moving your thread back....

Manny

LOL, that's a keeper!

 

[the_alcatraz]

My arms are my GUNZ! So yep, I don't need a gun to protect myself...you have my support, ban the damn guys...but if my neighbor has a gun, I'm keeping mine...