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Would use of AAS benefit my situation.

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sounds like you are making good progress so far, keep it up.
a couple of things
1)post your diet so maybe you can get some feedback
2)read everything you can find on this site, there is a wealth of information here so take advantage of it.

hold off on the a.s. until you get your bodyfat down to where you want it.
 
acclu97 said:
JA,

Thank you for the good advice. Please dont feel like you or anyone are bashing me by telling me what you truly feel, that is the very reason I posted on this forum. I wanted to know the opinions of those who have had hands on experience. It is one thing to get information from professors or a book but IMO, the opinion of those with hands on experience of similar, if not more importance.

Yes, being overweight does put more stress on the heart and AAS can add to that by increasing BP, etc. But lets say that I were to continue dieting and eventually reach a plateu. I try and try to overcome it but eventually get so frustrated that I go back to my old ways and put on all the weight I worked so hard to lose. I stay at this weight for a very long time and eventually run in to severe heart trouble.

On the other hand, what If I reached a plateu. I had still not reached my goal and while I was happy with my improvements, I was still not happy with my appearence. I tried and tried to overcome and became frustrated so decided to add AAS to my program. With the help of AAS (in moderation), I overcome my plateu and eventually reach my goal. I am now a much more confident person who is happy with the way I look. I am also at a much lower BF so my BP/Cholesterol will likely be much lower. furhtermore, the fact that I am happy with the way I look motivates me to continue exercising, eating well, and ultimatley maintain the way I look and feel. In this case, AAS did not add to any heart problems but instead kept me from encountering them by allowing me to maintain a healthy way of life.

Im not saying that things are always like this and that this is the way it is going to be for me. But if you were a health care practioner, which of the previous situations do you think would yield the best results? which would lead to a healthier person? Which persons quality of life would be better? Just something to think about...

To be honest with you, you're not even close to any sort of plateau. AAS should be viewed as a tool, not a crutch. To depend on a tool to help you reach your goals is not the idea. 90% of it is dieting and training, which is why I recommended spending more time on the other forums.

Focus more on diet, training and supps for the time being. Some of the Mods here are are very knowledgeable about various supps you might want to consider. Macro and Fonz are two people that come to mind and I don't think either of them would recommend AAS at this stage.
 
Hey Acclu97, no offense intended at all, but I think you should have a more accurate BF measurement taken. IMO you look to be about 16 to 17% at this point in your program. However, a true 10% BF would be an excellent and realistic goal for you.
 
rvboy,

I didnt mean that I had dropped to 10% BF, what I meant is that I have dropped about 10%. I know my method is probably incorrect but at least it is consistently incorrect and it sais that I have gone form about 32-34 to about 24%. Sorry if I was unclear, if I weree at 10% BFI wouldn't be here, I would be running through the streets naked in joy!!

BTW I used a blood pressure machine that also record BF to record my BF...
 
rvboy said:
Hey Acclu97, no offense intended at all, but I think you should have a more accurate BF measurement taken. IMO you look to be about 16 to 17% at this point in your program. However, a true 10% BF would be an excellent and realistic goal for you.

i think he said that he "lowered his bodyfat 10%", not "down to 10%". Also, Acclu97, I really don't think you can reach a plateu in losing weight: cut the daily calorie intake and increase cardio, it's that simple. it's impossible to plateu in fat loss. Keep doing cardio, and eat less. that is all you have to do.
 
acclu97 said:
It is only now, when everything else is in gear that I am considering them as future option.

anyone read this? he's not planning to jump on the bandwagon at his current point.

yeah, you are making good progress and congrats. from the shots you've posted you have dropped quite a lot of fat. keep at what you're doing and like the guys suggested, maybe post your current diet and workout routines on the boards and the guys can give you some pointers you might have overlooked.

i would focus on getting your BF down to where you want it before hitting the AAS, but from the looks of your pic you have a pretty solid foundation there. continue to work hard and stay dedicated. enjoy the journey and the progress of improvement and you'll be more likely to stick with it instead of just focusing on the end result.
 
You are right ripper I am not ready to use AAS right now. I have been doing really well lately and I am very happy with my progress. This is the thing. I am part of a family with horrible genetics. We are a total of eight kids, the majority of them being obest. As a matter of fact, three of the eight have had gastric bypass surgery which has been very succesful in keeping the weight off. I had always been the "skinny" one of the eight, all through high school I was int the 180-190's and about 14% BF. It was when I got to cellege, that I slacked off with my workouts and eating that the genetics really kicked in.

Now I am motivated once again and am fighting a battle against my own body's tendency to want to be overweight. I am not gonna tell myself that I am gonna keep losing weight and eventually have a killer abs, bulging veins, etc. That is simply not likely to happen to person with my genetics. I know that if I continue to do what I have been doing, I will continue to see results but I dont think I will get the results I ultimately want. I wanna have abs and veins etc. Yes diet and exercise will get me to a certain point but my genetics will really make it hard for me to surpass that point and could eventually lead to frustration causing me to return to what is natural to me.

What I have been trying to say is that I plan on sticking to what has been working and pushing it to the limit. But once I get there, I dont wanna take the chance of rebopunding. I wanna continue to push beyond my genetic capabilities and reach that physique I have always desired. IMO, I feel that seeing my self the way I want to be will be a tremendous motivation , driving me to mainatin it for life....
 
i can tell youve lost alot of weight! keep up the good work. we will be expecting more side by sides when you lose more. hopefully i wont get bashed for this, but if your diet is in check, and you reach a plateau, try some ephedrine. Just dont abuse it, be careful with it, and just use it to help things along a little.
 
I have a friend in about your same position that has been lost and can't find his way to the gym. I'm extremely glad you're shifting gears before it gets too hard to turn around. There is definitely a difference in the two pics and you seem to be moving in the right direction in a quick manner. Man,i don't know why you'd even be thinking of aas at this point as you seem to be clipping along quickly as it is. Always a morale booster for me to see people improving their situations(reminds me to get my ass in gear as well).
 
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