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Maverick

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Why do you think children/teenagers are getting more violent in this day ? Like back when my parents grew up they solved things by fist fighting, in this day.... curb stomping, stabbings and shootings.

why though ? movies, music or video games ?

or do you think that it is the natural violent evolution of human beings ?
 
they are doing what they have always been doing. Nothing has really changed.

They just lost their childhood, perhaps a bit too early in today's society, maybe they are the only once that should be actually pissed off.

What is this adult nonsense they think? All the prejudice, against their age, and status in the society.

They are hardly ever loved. Not even by their parents. But always new schemes of punishing them are being produced.

BlaH BLAH BLAH... adflkjwiodfom
 
Subzeero said:
they are doing what they have always been doing. Nothing has really changed.

They just lost their childhood, perhaps a bit too early in today's society, maybe they are the only once that should be actually pissed off.

What is this adult nonsense they think? All the prejudice, against their age, and status in the society.

They are hardly ever loved. Not even by their parents. But always new schemes of punishing them are being produced.

BlaH BLAH BLAH... adflkjwiodfom

my question was ...why now in schools do they have shootings when back in that day there was fist fights ?
 
They might be getting the ideas(guns,ect.) from games and movies.... but the same instinct has always been there. Plus, i think the increase in the LACK of parenting isn't helping the problem.
 
Maverick said:
my question was ...why now in schools do they have shootings when back in that day there was fist fights ?

because IMO, life is ever more out of control...the things we grew up beleiving in are mostly lies...most households are with a single parent, who works 10-12 hours a day...there is no sense of security anywhere. kids feel out of control...they play video games that reward them for "kills-made"...i took a class on "Killing" taught by govnmt. investigators- ones who do the investigations on such things as school shootings and debriefing of military, CIA, DOD, DOE personnel who "kill" for a living.
you are correct, that video games are a huge instrument in facilitating these events. they use some of the exact games the kids have to train their personnel...so it only stands to reason that this occurs.
but more so, i beleive its because of the desensitising in our society....the value of human life is nullified daily thru media...everything/everyone is expendable.
 
PBR said:
because IMO, life is ever more out of control...the things we grew up beleiving in are mostly lies...most households are with a single parent, who works 10-12 hours a day...there is no sense of security anywhere. kids feel out of control...they play video games that reward them for "kills-made"...i took a class on "Killing" taught by govnmt. investigators- ones who do the investigations on such things as school shootings and debriefing of military, CIA, DOD, DOE personnel who "kill" for a living.
you are correct, that video games are a huge instrument in facilitating these events. they use some of the exact games the kids have to train their personnel...so it only stands to reason that this occurs.
but more so, i beleive its because of the desensitising in our society....the value of human life is nullified daily thru media...everything/everyone is expendable.

Yep. I never watch t.v anymore. Haven't for years, except old shows like on TV Land. When I do occasionally see a program on regular television, I'm shocked at what I see compared to how it used to be.
 
well, now days it seems you would have to do SO MUCH to do anything unusual and be unique growing up in our society. Fights are commonplace... everyone has seen guys circled up at the flag-pole immediately afterschool...

but to the attention starved kids who are looking for ways to gain the spotlight, it seems like drastic measures are the only viable options these days... such as bringing guns/knives to school.

I dunno, thats my thought on it at 5:53am lol :jenscat
 
Maverick said:
Why do you think children/teenagers are getting more violent in this day ? Like back when my parents grew up they solved things by fist fighting, in this day.... curb stomping, stabbings and shootings.

why though ? movies, music or video games ?

or do you think that it is the natural violent evolution of human beings ?

...
 
Compaired to middleclass American society a few generations ago, yes we are more violent, but keep in mind that we were a very peaceful soceity at that time compaired to much of the world present and historically.
 
Maverick said:
my question was ...why now in schools do they have shootings when back in that day there was fist fights ?


Because kids this days are more exposed to violents such as disturbing games, have more access to technology such as computer etc. computer is evil for the most part.


Eitheir that people are just stupid now a days than the people from the past.
 
the gansta lifestyle is glorified and its chic now to be a thug. thanks to the entertainment industry and the media. dont forget to thank the fact that there is much easier access to firearms and deadly weapons. this is the way problems are solved now. its the most absolute means of resolving a problem - "just kill the motherfucker. now what? now what? huh? whatchu gonna do now??? you aint funna do nothin now cuz you dead muthafucka!"

its quite disgusting. the lack if intelligence in this world is a disturbing epidemic.
 
i think to some degree the increase in violence is a myth
it's always been there, now we have quicker access to it via web/24 hour news reporsts/etc.
 
Maverick said:
my question was ...why now in schools do they have shootings when back in that day there was fist fights ?


are you kidding me? i finished high school three years ago, and believe me, there were enough fist fights, and i loved em.

There are a few dicks here and there, that are mentally retarded, or think they are socially rejected and all that crap. They are the ones that ruin in for everyone.

IMO, there is a higher likelihood, for a loser to pick up a gun and go on a rampage than a baggy pants wearing gangster.

The "gansters" are happier, they get laid a lot more often, they have many friends just like them. Violence is obviously glorified for them, but chances are, 99% of the time, disputes are settled with fists and other non-gun weapons.

When was the last time you heard of depressed gangster who walks into the school, and starts shooting all the pretty white girls?
 
Maverick said:
Why do you think children/teenagers are getting more violent in this day ? Like back when my parents grew up they solved things by fist fighting, in this day.... curb stomping, stabbings and shootings.

why though ? movies, music or video games ?

or do you think that it is the natural violent evolution of human beings ?
i think it is b/c parents are so scared to discipline their child with all the freaks screaming child abuse, kids are getting away with more and more especially outside of the home.
 
Gambino said:
i think to some degree the increase in violence is a myth
it's always been there, now we have quicker access to it via web/24 hour news reporsts/etc.

its also overhyped and overplayed.

lower testosterone per capita makes anything that resembles testy actions "offensive" and needs to be discussed in a womanly fashion.

School shootings are not that common. The way in which they are reported skews the idea of this.
 
Horse shit.. about 'these days'.....

My grandfather and his 13 brothers... came from Ireland.. my grandfather was 10... and like all immigrant groups they were hated...

Fighting Irish?

Hell Ya! They fought to save their asses every day after school, then half of them ended up boxing for money...

THOSE were violent times..
 
JH1 said:
Horse shit.. about 'these days'.....

My grandfather and his 13 brothers... came from Ireland.. my grandfather was 10... and like all immigrant groups they were hated...

Fighting Irish?

Hell Ya! They fought to save their asses every day after school, then half of them ended up boxing for money...

THOSE were violent times..

When my great grandfather came off the boat from Czechloslovakia around 1915 he could not find work or make any money, so he murdered 3 families, men women & children, made the bodies disappear and then took the farmland from them out in the country, which is still owned by my family today.

We read in history books about the world wars, Vietnam. We see our current conflict in Iraq, even the fighting going on between the Israelis and the Palestinians every day and then people are fucking stupid enough to make statements like "Oh we are becoming so violent our society with all this violence in schools and on the streets...". Are we are a society that fucking blind and isolated from history and everything that goes on every day in the rest of the world? Wow, just fucking wow.
 
The "family unit" is being destroyed, and any would-be decency is usually thrown out with it.
 
BodyByFinaplix said:
When my great grandfather came off the boat from Czechloslovakia around 1915 he could not find work or make any money, so he murdered 3 families, men women & children, made the bodies disappear and then took the farmland from them out in the country, which is still owned by my family today.



What the FUCK? Nice family legacy orb?

I hope your kidding.
 
JH1 said:
What the FUCK? Nice family legacy orb?

I hope your kidding.

No bro I am very much serious. Of course deeds were different back then and it was a rural area. I think it had everything legalized eventually and I know today that land is legally owned by members of my family. Welcome to the real world. Most property everyone owns today in almost any country, was probably at one time or another obtained through violent methods. There were people in American long before it became the United States. We just killed them off and put the few remaining survivors on reservations.

Humans are easily one of the most violent species on the planet. To think otherwise is absolutely insane.
 
Maverick said:
Why do you think children/teenagers are getting more violent in this day ? Like back when my parents grew up they solved things by fist fighting, in this day.... curb stomping, stabbings and shootings.

why though ? movies, music or video games ?

or do you think that it is the natural violent evolution of human beings ?

I can't grant you your premise. Violent crime has been on a decline since the mid 70's according to law enforcement statistics. I'm not sure if that specifically applies to juvenile crime though. Violent crimes have drastically declined since the early 90's and that does include juvenile specific violent crime.
 
Jacob Creutzfeldt said:
I can't grant you your premise. Violent crime has been on a decline since the mid 70's according to law enforcement statistics. I'm not sure if that specifically applies to juvenile crime though. Violent crimes have drastically declined since the early 90's and that does include juvenile specific violent crime.

That is absolutely impossible. We have more violence on tv/video games than the 70's, way more types of drugs available and less strict values on sex than in the 70's, and EVERYONE knows that these are the causes of violence. Did you know that no one even knew about murder before television and cocain were invented? The first war was caused by the video game Wolfenstien. Violent crimes are on the rise! Don't you watch the news? Idiot.
 
Maverick said:
Why do you think children/teenagers are getting more violent in this day ? Like back when my parents grew up they solved things by fist fighting, in this day.... curb stomping, stabbings and shootings.

why though ? movies, music or video games ?

or do you think that it is the natural violent evolution of human beings ?

kids aren't fucking raised right anymore. . .period. . .
 
BodyByFinaplix said:
That is absolutely impossible. We have more violence on tv/video games than the 70's, way more types of drugs available and less strict values on sex than in the 70's, and EVERYONE knows that these are the causes of violence. Did you know that no one even knew about murder before television and cocain were invented? The first war was caused by the video game Wolfenstien. Violent crimes are on the rise! Don't you watch the news? Idiot.

Point taken. Life parodies video entertainment, not vice versa.
 
And the angel of the Lord came unto me,
snatching me up from my
place of slumber,
and took me on high,
and higher still until we
moved in the spaces betwixt the air itself.
and he bore me unto a
vast farmland of our own midwest,
and as we descended cries of
impending doom rose from the soil.
one thousand, nay, a million
voices full of fear.
and terror possessed me then.
and I begged,

"Angel of the Lord, what are these tortured screams?"
And the angel said unto me,
"These are the cries of the carrots,
the cries of the carrots.
You see, reverend Maynard, tomorrow is harvest day
and to them it is the holocaust."
And I sprang from my slumber drenched in sweat
like the tears of one millions terrified brothers
and roared,
"Hear me now,
I have seen the light,
they have a consciousness,
they have a life,
they have a soul.
damn you!
let the rabbits wear glasses,
save our brothers...can I get an amen?
can I get a hallelujah? thank you, Jesus.

life feeds on life feeds on life feeds on life feeds on...
this is necessary

it was daylight when you woke up in your ditch.
you looked up at your sky.
that made blue be your color.
you had your knife with you there too.
when you stood up there was goo all over your clothes.
your hands were sticky.
you wiped them on your grass,
so now your color was green.
oh Lord, why did everything always have
to keep changing like this?
you were already getting nervous again.
your head hurt and it rang when you stood up.
your head was almost empty.
it always hurt you when you woke up like this.
you crawled up out of your ditch unto your gravel road
and you began to walk
and waited for the rest of your mind to come back to you.
you could see the car parked far down the road
and you walked toward it.
if God is our father, you though,
then Satan must be our cousin.
why didn't anyone else understand these important things?
when you got to your car,
you tried all the doors,
but they were locked.
it was a red car and it was new.
there was an expensive leather camera case lying on the seat.
out across your field
you could see two tiny people walking by your woods.
you began to walk towards them.
now red was your color and of course,
those little people out there were yours too
 
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