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angel_eyes

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OK, this guy I know really likes me and wants to buy me a new $350,000 house in Vegas. Plus a new Porsche.

The problem is I have NO feelings for him at all. I feel like he is just trying to buy my attenion and make me be a kept woman!! He lives in LA, so he would only be visiting once a month or so.

He flies me there all the time just for my "company" no sex involved.

What do you think, will I undermine all of my morals and intregrity my accepting such an offer?? :confused:

:angel:

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Um yeah he just wants your "company" for a house and a Porsche...get real...once he gets you those things he will be expecting a hell of a lot more than conversation...
 
Dude sounds weird to me. If you accept the offer, I wouldn't be surprised if you ended up dead in the near future.
 
angel_eyes said:
OK, this guy I know really likes me and wants to buy me a new $350,000 house Vegas. Plus a new Porsche.

The problem is I have NO feelings for him at all. I feel like he is just trying to buy my attenion and make me be a kept woman!! He lives in LA, so he would only be visiting once a month or so.

He flys me there all the time just for my "company" no sex involved.

What do you think, will I undermine all of my morals and intregrity my accepting such an offer?? :confused:

:angel:

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I think I saw this in a movie once
 
keeping the car and the house would be sooooo wrong... so i suggest you give me the car and you keep the house that way you aren't totally being a gold digger, and it works out for the both of us.
 
yea and if the house is nice you could date me

go for it
 
this has got to be some form of prostitution, even with no sex involved. What a pathetic fuck this guy is. Wish i had his loot though.
 
I know a few dancers who have had relationships like that...only the most money grubbing immoral ho's could accept the gifts and chase off the poor bastard after he realized he wasn't ever getting any nookie...but a porche and a 350k house...Hell, I might screw the guy for that ....
 
What if I made him put the house in my name as well, and had my so called "gay" friend move in??

He really is only my friend, but gay friend might be more convincing, and then I would have rent money as well as equity?

:angel:

PS, He is not weird or ugly, just an extremley rich, professional with little time.
 
Yeah cause just a $350,000 free house isn't enough, you gotta get that rent money too. I don't think it's a good or smart idea either way, but if you feel safe enough to accept it then go for it.
 
Who´s paying for insurances, gas, electric etc.? I´m guessing it´s pretty expensive having a 350k house. What happends when he says he wont pay anymore, move back home?
 
Don't be a moron...Get the house, put it in your name, and if needs be, fuck the guy. I mean, hell, you're getting a freakin house and car. Why do people put so much stock in sex?! Think to yourself how many times you've given it up to men for free! It's a house, you silly broad! Just make him wear a condom.

By the way, if he's buying you a house, why'd you have to pay rent?
 
damn...thats alot of stuff..be sure he knows that you arent going to change you relationship towards him because of it
 
Tell him to put you in his will....
And live your life like you want...

"You will be his kept woman if you accept this"
Some people like that, would you?
What do you want deep down in your heart???
You need to ask yourself that question!!:confused:
 
I know, the more I tell him I don't want anything from him, the more he pursues me.

He knows that I have had an extremely successful career and that I enjoy material things, however I gave up my career, houses, cars, husband, in order to find something that made me happy.

So this just attracts him more because he knows that I am not just after his money. The only thing I have accepted from him, is airfare to Vegas on several occasions.

:angel:
 
If you have lived a material life of success and did not find any happiness in this then why would you even consider this offer? It doesn't make any sense.
 
WODIN said:
If you have lived a material life of success and did not find any happiness in this then why would you even consider this offer? It doesn't make any sense.
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I know, except I need to find somewhere else to move right away. The house would not make me happy, or the car. I am just looking into moving to Vegas.

:angel:
 
smallmovesal said:
if it comprimises your morals or integrity then it wouldn't be wise.

however, don't expect to receive these "gifts" without expectations in return. if you aren't willing to date this person, then by all means do not do what is essentially agreeing to a relationship in exchange for money or gifts.

i learned this on jenny jones.

http://jennyjones.warnerbros.com/cmp/showstuff/showclips/clips/11002p.html
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Pretty scary Jenny Jones clip, glad I don't watch TV.
That's exactly why I don't to accept the offer. I have the ability and intelligence to buy those things for myself.

I would just sacrafice my freedom back to the slavedom of the Corporate World to make a lot of money and no have no time or personal happiness.

:angel:
 
PinK233 said:
Um yeah he just wants your "company" for a house and a Porsche...get real...once he gets you those things he will be expecting a hell of a lot more than conversation...
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This is the truth. You'll become dependent on someone who is expecting a lot more than you signed up for.
 
Are you a stripper? This sounds like the kind of propositions (although on a much grander scale) that my stripper ex used to get.
 
Boach said:
Don't be a moron...Get the house, put it in your name, and if needs be, fuck the guy. I mean, hell, you're getting a freakin house and car. Why do people put so much stock in sex?! Think to yourself how many times you've given it up to men for free! It's a house, you silly broad! Just make him wear a condom.

By the way, if he's buying you a house, why'd you have to pay rent?
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This is EXACTLY what I was thinking. I mean does sex mean so much 2 her that she wouldn't give it up for this much stuff?? Thats almost a half a million in gifts just for you throwing out the pussy now and again hell I am a male and straight as a arrow and this fucker offered 2 give me a half a million in gifts I would fuck him =p. Sweet lord its not like sex is that big of a deal and like he said just think of the times u have done it for free compared 2 a fucking house and a porsche.

Drizz
 
Drizzt said:


This is EXACTLY what I was thinking. I mean does sex mean so much 2 her that she wouldn't give it up for this much stuff?? Thats almost a half a million in gifts just for you throwing out the pussy now and again hell I am a male and straight as a arrow and this fucker offered 2 give me a half a million in gifts I would fuck him =p. Sweet lord its not like sex is that big of a deal and like he said just think of the times u have done it for free compared 2 a fucking house and a porsche.

Drizz
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Yeah, fuck integrity and your sense of self worth.
 
Damn - you must be HOT.
Any pics?
 
Nope.....call me crazy but I would turn it all down.

The last thing I would want is a man that has something to hold over my head.....

He might not yet, sweetie.....but he will soon.
Nothing in life is free...you got to pay for everything somehow...and if he is giving you all of that, I highly doubt all he wants to do is chat.

~toga
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toga22 said:
Nope.....call me crazy but I would turn it all down.

The last thing I would want is a man that has something to hold over my head.....

He might not yet, sweetie.....but he will soon.
Nothing in life is free...you got to pay for everything somehow...and if he is giving you all of that, I highly doubt all he wants to do is chat.

~toga
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Thanks, Toga. That's how I feel. I would actually rather just fuck someone with no strings attached.

I have no problem with just having sex. Yes, many times I have just given it away. That is different though when you want just to play.

Still once you do something like for the sole purpose of obtaining the money or gifts you have basically become a whore.
:angel:
 
NOTHING IN LIFE IS FREE!!!!

If you accepted this offer I would totally look down on you.

My GF had the same exact offer given to her a couple years ago from a lonely rich man and she declined it because she new he would expect alot from her and he would basically own her.

When she told me that I had a big smile from ear to ear.
 
angel_eyes said:
OK, this guy I know really likes me and wants to buy me a new $350,000 house in Vegas. Plus a new Porsche.
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What do you think, will I undermine all of my morals and intregrity my accepting such an offer??
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Ask yourself how it you would feel and how successfully you could handle being purchased and being someone else's property. I'm not saying this to insult you - I am saying this because I see this behavior very often - men (sometimes women) purchase items for their *women* (or men) and there is a pay back. You are expected to give something back and it usually requires your time and your body and/or mind.


Good Luck
 
angel_eyes said:
Thanks, Toga. That's how I feel. I would actually rather just fuck someone with no strings attached.

I have no problem with just having sex. Yes, many times I have just given it away. That is different though when you want just to play.

Still once you do something like for the sole purpose of obtaining the money or gifts you have basically become a whore.
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Again, stop being stupid. Just because you have sex for a HOUSE and a PORSCHE, doesn't make you a whore. Whore's have sex on a constant basis for money and goods. Get the house in your name, make it legal, put the title of the car in your name, and fuck his brains out, once. If wants more later, that's up to you.

Believe me, no puss is worth 400,000 dollars so if this guy is crazy enough to give you that much for just a romp in the hay, do it!

Look at it this way--Is your mom a whore for having sex with your father since he works in brings home the money while she sits at home? No!!! so go and use that cooter that god gave you.
 
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velvett said:



Ask yourself how it you would feel and how successfully you could handle being purchased and being someone else's property. I'm not saying this to insult you - I am saying this because I see this behavior very often - men (sometimes women) purchase items for their *women* (or men) and there is a pay back. You are expected to give something back and it usually requires your time and your body and/or mind.


Good Luck
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EVERYONE has a price. Get over it.
 
By the way, my comment was directed to the entire human population in general. I wasn't singling you out. Since you've decided to get snippy, I snipped back.
 
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Doubtful Boach.........

Many people feel the same as I do about the offer and I think I stated it rather clear that everyone has a *price* but does everyone have the ability to accept their price and live up to the expectations because of it.
 
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velvett said:
Doubtful Boach.........

Many people feel the same as I do about the offer and I think I stated it rather clear that everyone has a *price* but does everyone have the ability to accept their price and live up to the expectations because of it.
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Why is it that all of your posts tend to get garbled? What the hell does
but does everyone have the ability to accept their price and live up to the expectations because of it.
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mean?
 
As the board's resident philosopher, I will answer your question in such a way that you will not feel poorly accepting his offer.

"What do you think, will I undermine all of my morals and intregrity my accepting such an offer??"
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You must now do the following.

"Hi <so-and-so>, I, <angel_eyes real name> have absolutely no feelings for you and don't think I ever will; however, I will graciously accept your offer of the $350,000 house and new Porsche."

That way, you will not be violating your moral principles (I'm assuming one of them is "don't lead guys on.") See, you won't be leading him on because you'll be telling him flat out that he means nothing to you, and that way, if he still feels like buying you all of the neat toys, he'll be doing it of his own accord with no prior agreement of him getting anything in return.

Note: Any guy wanting to buy a girl who has no feelings for him a house and new car is either a) whacko or b) extremely rich and probably has a load of other girls who DO feel something, or at least pretend to feel something, for him.

End philosophy lesson.

-Warik
 
Warik said:
As the board's resident philosopher, I will answer your question in such a way that you will not feel poorly accepting his offer.



You must now do the following.

"Hi <so-and-so>, I, <angel_eyes real name> have absolutely no feelings for you and don't think I ever will; however, I will graciously accept your offer of the $350,000 house and new Porsche."

That way, you will not be violating your moral principles (I'm assuming one of them is "don't lead guys on.") See, you won't be leading him on because you'll be telling him flat out that he means nothing to you, and that way, if he still feels like buying you all of the neat toys, he'll be doing it of his own accord with no prior agreement of him getting anything in return.

Note: Any guy wanting to buy a girl who has no feelings for him a house and new car is either a) whacko or b) extremely rich and probably has a load of other girls who DO feel something, or at least pretend to feel something, for him.

End philosophy lesson.

-Warik
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If you were a chick...I'd so bang you. After, I'd buy you a house and a car.
 
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velvett said:


Maybe you are slow.
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Funny, I was thinking the same thing about you. I just thought you were trying to cover it up by using "big" words.
 
I'm still trying to figure out yoru post...

What kind of expectations would people have for taking a house and a porsche in exchange for sex--or even just accepting as a gift?
 
Boach said:
I just thought you were trying to cover it up by using "big" words.

I'm still trying to figure out yoru post...

What kind of expectations would people have for taking a house and a porsche in exchange for sex--or even just accepting as a gift?
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Are there really big words in this sentence?

Many people feel the same as I do about the offer and I think I stated it rather clear that everyone has a *price* but does everyone have the ability to accept their price and live up to the expectations because of it.
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Oh dear, how stupid of me think you could understand big words like *expectation* and *ability*.

:worried:


It's not a stringless gift.

It's a gift with an expected trade.

(The trade varies of course and is most likely defined by the gift giver.)

:eyes:

You just want to disagree with anything and everything I say - it's what you always do. You did it as 68GT350 and now as Boach - why don't we just do each other a favor and pretend the other does not exist.

BuHhhh-Bye.
 
velvett said:
Are there really big words in this sentence?
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"Big" word
noun

A word in which there are three or more syllables.

I see a few of those in your sentence. Wayyyyy over my head. Speak my language, nigga... ho shit! What's a syllabbabable?
 
Ok, I haven't read much of the other posts, but I will offer my opinion on this situation, which I really know nothing about. :)

If I bought a girl a car and a house, I'd better get some sex in return. Hell, she'd better dedicate her life to me and my needs. No back talk, no complaining -- i get a blowjob as soon as I get home, and she'd better have dinner ready too. :D

Seriously, you're on your way to being a KB (kept bitch). If you're cool with that, fine. I know many women who wounld't mind that lifestyle at all. If living like that doesn't appeal to you, you should drop this guy like a bad habbit.
 
It's not a gift if there are strings attached, and there are strings all over this "gift".

It sounds more like he's trying to buy you.


Everyone might have a price, but you still have to live with what you do. If you can live with yourself then go for it. But there is
no way he doesn't expect something in return.
 
velvett said:


Are there really big words in this sentence?



Oh dear, how stupid of me think you could understand big words like *expectation* and *ability*.

:worried:


It's not a stringless gift.

It's a gift with an expected trade.

(The trade varies of course and is most likely defined by the gift giver.)

:eyes:

You just want to disagree with anything and everything I say - it's what you always do. You did it as 68GT350 and now as Boach - why don't we just do each other a favor and pretend the other does not exist.

BuHhhh-Bye.
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How could I ignore such a demanding presence?

I'm not posting for the single reason of disagreeing with you. I didn't even see the name of who posted before i quoted you.

My point was, who gives a fuck if there is a trade. Having sex is not as valuable as many make it out to be--especially if you're single. I think it would be extremely stupid to turn down a house and an awesome car for sex. Just make sure you get it all legal on paper.

Keep in mind, you attacked me first!

Don't worry though, Boach still loves you.
 
big4life said:
It's not a gift if there are strings attached, and there are strings all over this "gift".

It sounds more like he's trying to buy you.


Everyone might have a price, but you still have to live with what you do. If you can live with yourself then go for it. But there is
no way he doesn't expect something in return.
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I simply can not understand why people put so much emphasis on sex. It's just penis in vagina. Damn people...stop being so high and mighty!

Would you turn down all that stuff, big4life?

Well, if you did, I'd think you to be stupid, unless you're married and this act would jeopardize your relationship.
 
Boach said:


I simply can not understand why people put so much emphasis on sex. It's just penis in vagina. Damn people...stop being so high and mighty!

Would you turn down all that stuff, big4life?

Well, if you did, I'd think you to be stupid, unless you're married and this act would jeopardize your relationship.
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First, yes I would turn it down. To put it in plain english, neither my physical nor emotional self is for sale.

Second, for me sex is way more than a physical act. It is your emotions plus your partners. Sex without any emotional contact is nothing. Sex is the ultimate in intimacy between two people.

BTW. Yes I am single, and I love sex more than most people.
Maybe because I see it as so special, is the reason I enjoy it so much?
 
casavant said:
Are you a stripper? This sounds like the kind of propositions (although on a much grander scale) that my stripper ex used to get.
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Nope, not a stripper. Actually just a nice/naughty professional girl next door type. No fake boobies or plastic. No head trips or mind games. He is the one pursuing me, or acutually trying to buy me.

:angel:
 
big4life said:



First, yes I would turn it down. To put it in plain english, neither my physical nor emotional self is for sale.

Second, for me sex is way more than a physical act. It is your emotions plus your partners. Sex without any emotional contact is nothing. Sex is the ultimate in intimacy between two people.

BTW. Yes I am single, and I love sex more than most people.
Maybe because I see it as so special, is the reason I enjoy it so much?
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No offense...but you're full of shit!

Ever have sex out of wedlock?
 
Boach,

You confused me with that one. If it makes you feel better to be the dominant gender then go for it.. I can't be bought. I'm not sure how that makes me any less.

starfish
 
starfish said:
Boach,

You confused me with that one. If it makes you feel better to be the dominant gender then go for it.. I can't be bought. I'm not sure how that makes me any less.

starfish
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Let's see if you've been bought. Here's a test:
(Be sure to answer honestly)

1. Are you a virgin?

2. Have you ever had sex with anyone who you didn't know their last name?

3. Have you ever had sex with someone who bought you something/anything?

4. Have you ever recieved money or goods for sex?

5. Are you single or married?
 
Boach,

What do those questions have to do with being bought?? What does knowing a person's last name have to do with being bought??

I have turned down more than you would believe anyway... Or you would just call me stupid, so what's the point???

Actually, my favorite gifts come from the heart... $$$ is not an issue.

starfish
 
The fact that you don't answer my questions just reassures me. I'd like to be proven wrong, but I guess that's impossible if I'm right.
 
angel_eyes said:
OK, this guy I know really likes me and wants to buy me a new $350,000 house in Vegas. Plus a new Porsche.

The problem is I have NO feelings for him at all. I feel like he is just trying to buy my attenion and make me be a kept woman!! He lives in LA, so he would only be visiting once a month or so.

He flies me there all the time just for my "company" no sex involved.

What do you think, will I undermine all of my morals and intregrity my accepting such an offer?? :confused:

:angel:

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if you are asking the help of the elite chat & conversation people, you probably are fully aware that its wrong
 
no offense to the chat ppl but she knows its wrong and just wants someone to say its okay so she can feel better about fucking this guy over
 
How do you want me to prove you wrong???

Do you want names and numbers???

If I'm being vague, Boach- it's because you have attacked me for no reason in the past.. I don't owe you anything and I was answering Angel Eyes question.

starfish
 
starfish said:
How do you want me to prove you wrong???

Do you want names and numbers???

If I'm being vague, Boach- it's because you have attacked me for no reason in the past.. I don't owe you anything and I was answering Angel Eyes question.

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I never attacked you. You blamed me on triedia for someone else's post. I remember that. This thread, however, has inspired me to speak out. You're a dope.

I say if the guy is stupid enough to hand out houses, take it. Simple as that. If you aren't smart enough to take it, you're both stupid.
 
starfish said:
How do you want me to prove you wrong???

Do you want names and numbers???

If I'm being vague, Boach- it's because you have attacked me for no reason in the past.. I don't owe you anything and I was answering Angel Eyes question.

starfish
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Read my above post closer...I never asked for any names or numbers.
 
Boach- Fine, I'm a dope, told you I would get called stupid. Dope is close to stupid isn't it?? Ahhh flashbacks from Tredia.. I was the one attacked there.

Maybe I will read this whole thread again tomorrow and see it your way.. I'm tired- I've been on a plane all day returning from vacation.
 
starfish said:
Boach- Fine, I'm a dope, told you I would get called stupid. Dope is close to stupid isn't it?? Ahhh flashbacks from Tredia.. I was the one attacked there.

Maybe I will read this whole thread again tomorrow and see it your way.. I'm tired- I've been on a plane all day returning from vacation.
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No, Starfish, you attacked others first.
 
Warik said:
As the board's resident philosopher, I will answer your question in such a way that you will not feel poorly accepting his offer.



You must now do the following.

"Hi <so-and-so>, I, <angel_eyes real name> have absolutely no feelings for you and don't think I ever will; however, I will graciously accept your offer of the $350,000 house and new Porsche."

That way, you will not be violating your moral principles (I'm assuming one of them is "don't lead guys on.") See, you won't be leading him on because you'll be telling him flat out that he means nothing to you, and that way, if he still feels like buying you all of the neat toys, he'll be doing it of his own accord with no prior agreement of him getting anything in return.

Note: Any guy wanting to buy a girl who has no feelings for him a house and new car is either a) whacko or b) extremely rich and probably has a load of other girls who DO feel something, or at least pretend to feel something, for him.

End philosophy lesson.

-Warik
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What the old fucker agrees to and what he expects or thinks he can eventually get are two different things, oh Great One. It's called a "real life situation".:rolleyes:
 
Boach said:


I simply can not understand why people put so much emphasis on sex. It's just penis in vagina. Damn people...stop being so high and mighty!

Would you turn down all that stuff, big4life?

Well, if you did, I'd think you to be stupid, unless you're married and this act would jeopardize your relationship.
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So if I fuck your girlfriend, it's alright, especially since there wouldn't be real feelings involved? It would be no big deal- just my fat hog giving her the long ball.
 
Boach said:


No offense...but you're full of shit!

Ever have sex out of wedlock?
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I'm glad you know me so well.:rolleyes:


And yes, I have had sex outside of marriage. Since I'm single I enjoy it quite often.

I've had sex without the emotional involvement, and it was not nearly as good as being with a woman that you connect with.:p
 
Everyone's jealous....

Men, if you were in that situation where you had all the money in the world, would you not be tempted to do the same thing? Does it not cross your mind in a positive way?

Ladies, I think if the offer were made to you, would you not go and give it a look-see?

Personally in my lil fantasy world, if I had that kind of $, sure I'd think about it. The truth is, I'm not and the reality is I'm happy with my own situation so why bother making it anything other than some situation I know will never happen.
 
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angel_eyes said:
OK, this guy I know really likes me and wants to buy me a new $350,000 house in Vegas. Plus a new Porsche.

The problem is I have NO feelings for him at all. I feel like he is just trying to buy my attenion and make me be a kept woman!! He lives in LA, so he would only be visiting once a month or so.

He flies me there all the time just for my "company" no sex involved.

What do you think, will I undermine all of my morals and intregrity my accepting such an offer?? :confused:

:angel:

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You've already answered your question for us:

"....the problem is I have NO feelings for him.."

So you have no romantic interests in him and you don't mention that you feel he is a friend either so.....

WHY DO YOU KEEP ACCEPTING HIS AIRLINE TICKETS OUT TO VEGAS TO ACCOMPANY HIM?????

Nothing better to do that day?........lol Still haven't seen enough of Vegas?...lol

"...I feel like he is trying to buy my attention...."

Well at least you realize it and can admit it. However since you already "sold yourself" cheap (the airline tickets), and are even considering his offer.........

YOU ALREADY HAVE LITTLE OR NO MORALS AND INTEGRITY


the end
 
cm3504jm said:
Everyone's jealous....

Men, if you were in that situation where you had all the money in the world, would you not be tempted to do the same thing? Does it not cross your mind in a positive way?

Ladies, I think if the offer were made to you, would you not go and give it a look-see?
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Uh no.

Been there, offered similar but in The Hamptons and I will not be purchased by anyone. I've already had a control freak father I don't need a control freak lover/mistress keeper.

Not jealous in the least - if you can handle such an arrangement then by all means go for it - plenty of people do. I have several as clients which is the bonus plan for me because every new gal pal - means a brand spanking new interior for me to do.

Cross my mind in a positive way?

Again - it depends on what you want for yourself and how you wish to live your life.
 
velvett said:


Uh no.

Been there, offered similar but in The Hamptons and I will not be purchased by anyone. I've already had a control freak father I don't need a control freak lover/mistress keeper.

Not jealous in the least - if you can handle such an arrangement then by all means go for it - plenty of people do. I have several as clients which is the bonus plan for me because every new gal pal - means a brand spanking new interior for me to do.

Cross my mind in a positive way?

Again - it depends on what you want for yourself and how you wish to live your life.
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Who's that in your avatar? She's got nice fingers.
 
casavant said:


So if I fuck your girlfriend, it's alright, especially since there wouldn't be real feelings involved? It would be no big deal- just my fat hog giving her the long ball.
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I made one element very clear throughtout my ramblings...

If you are single who's having casual sex, anyways, what's the big deal about giving up some nookie to get a house. It's another thing, entirely, if you are involved with a partner who believes you are monogomous.
 
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