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Workout while being is cycle should change?

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Hey hello guys I just have a question about the way steroid works, I know they are not magic and they wont give me tons of muscles in one night, I need to have a proper nutiriton ( tracking macros ) and a nice gym routine, im currently following a 3-week full body routine Called "ICF5x5 Novice routine" this routine includes compounds lifts ( Squat/deadlift/bench/bent over) and acccesorry lift like curl/BPCG/hyperextension Etc ) but in my gym someone recommended me to change my routine ( even if the routine isnt a proffesional one like ICF5x5) but add another workout day , like doing my own routine for exmaple:

1st day : Arms
2nd Day: Legs
3rd : Chest Back
4th Day: Legs

What you think about routines while being in steroid cycle?

Thanks for your help!
 
For me, it's all about timing of your macros that is going to make u grow... Just because you eat 6 meals a day doesn't mean the timing is correct... You can honestly make gains without gear, using natural supplements... As long as you are achieving qty pump in the gym on the muscle being worked that day, you are fine.

Timing the eating for the windows when your body needs macros is more important than gear... And making change to your workouts is always good so your body never hits plataeus and shock continues to grow the muscle...

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For me, it's all about timing of your macros that is going to make u grow... Just because you eat 6 meals a day doesn't mean the timing is correct... You can honestly make gains without gear, using natural supplements... As long as you are achieving qty pump in the gym on the muscle being worked that day, you are fine.

Timing the eating for the windows when your body needs macros is more important than gear... And making change to your workouts is always good so your body never hits plataeus and shock continues to grow the muscle...

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Ye nutrition timing is irrelevant, but I was talking about my weight training/workout... should I stick with my full body workout 3 times per week? ("Jason icf5x5 Novice Routine) Or should I switch my routine with another one to build more muscle?
 
I've always heard that a good measure of strength for a man is benching 1.5 times your body weight, squatting 2 times your body weight and deadlifting 2.5 times your body weight. Until you can hit those numbers you don't need ancillary work in my opinion.

Focus on benching, squats, deadlifting, heavy rows, pull ups and dips. I like the 5x5 you're on.
 
If you think nutrition timing is irrelevant then you just wasted your money thinking steroids is gonna help you build muscle , you could go lift car tires or bricks and if your nutrition is in check your gonna make gains , but on the flip side if your busting your butt in the gym but falling short on the diet your gains will be compromised and you will be left scratching your head as to why you didn't put on that 15lbs from a $1000 steroid cycle/pct , and I mean 15lbs. Of muscle not 4 lbs. of muscle and 11lbs. Of water and fat , but to answer your question once your nutrition matches your training just work real hard in the gym try to mix it up with heavy compound movements and some intense medium weight isolation exercises and you should see nice gains
 
If you think nutrition timing is irrelevant then you just wasted your money thinking steroids is gonna help you build muscle , you could go lift car tires or bricks and if your nutrition is in check your gonna make gains , but on the flip side if your busting your butt in the gym but falling short on the diet your gains will be compromised and you will be left scratching your head as to why you didn't put on that 15lbs from a $1000 steroid cycle/pct , and I mean 15lbs. Of muscle not 4 lbs. of muscle and 11lbs. Of water and fat , but to answer your question once your nutrition matches your training just work real hard in the gym try to mix it up with heavy compound movements and some intense medium weight isolation exercises and you should see nice gains

Thanks For your reeply, I dont want to be arrogant but:
(Quoted from alan Aragon post)

"When speaking of nutrition for improving body composition or training performance, it's crucial to realize there's an underlying hierarchy of importance. At the top of the hierarchy is total amount of the macronutrients by the end of the day. Distantly below that is the precise timing of those nutrients. With very few exceptions, athletes and active individuals eat multiple times per day. Thus, the majority of their day is spent in the postprandial (fed) rather than a post-absorptive (fasted) state. The vast majority of nutrient timing studies have been done on overnight-fasted subjects put through glycogen depletion protocols, which obviously limits the applicability of the outcomes. Pre-exercise (and/or during-exercise) nutrient intake often has a lingering carry-over effect into the post-exercise period. Throughout the day, there's a constant overlap of meal digestion & nutrient absorption. For this reason, the effectiveness of nutrient timing does not require a high degree of precision.

The Primary Laws of Nutrient Timing
The First Law of Nutrient Timing is: hitting your daily macronutrient targets is FAR more important than nutrient timing.
The Second Law of Nutrient Timing is: hitting your daily macronutrient targets is FAR more important than nutrient timing.

NOTE: Please do not misinterpret the above to mean that timing is irrelevant. On the contrary, it's very relevant. Timing just happens to have MUCH LESS impact on results than hitting your macro totals for the day. This doesn't diminish the fact that people need to individualize their meal timing so that it maximizes their training performance (& does not hinder it). The latter manipulations vary widely, because people have different training protocols, goals, and tolerances. For example, some people experience their best training performance in an immediately fed state, while others do best in a semi-fasted or fasted state. Endurance athletes who neglect carbohydrate timing will not optimize their training capacity. Strength/power athletes with minimal endurance demands have much less of a concern for this. There's no way to 'universalize' a nutrient timing prescription that applies to everyone & all types of athletes. But to reiterate, macro totals for the day overshadow timing in terms of importance, especially for bodybuilding. If macro totals for the day are not hit, the most precisely neurotic timing of meals is all for sh!t. "
 
Hey if your a bodybuilder that competes in shows and that's effective for you then continue on but I'm telling you that there are gains to be made that will be left on the table , I am a bodybuilder and I'm on my second prep this year and I can promise you that when I took meal timing into consideration my physique drastically changed , I have a Letrozone log on here right now with lots of pics and videos if you want to check out the validity of my physique. I do not take AAS , I do take other enhancement drugs all that are legal and I do not touch needles whatsoever. So judge for yourself. Just trying to help you buddy but most people don't listen. People in my gym talk that crap all the time and then when I'm leaner and bigger than them they just say I'm on drugs lol . But it doesn't matter because I still look better.
 
If it works off cycle, it works on cycle. I don't know why everyone always wants to go change things and do something different while on cycle. Adding more workouts doesn't necessarily mean better gains. You grow in the kitchen and while resting, not in the gym. I do weights 3 times per week whether on cycle or not, and I outgrow most people because I know how to eat, train, and give my body the recovery time it needs
 
If it works off cycle, it works on cycle. I don't know why everyone always wants to go change things and do something different while on cycle. Adding more workouts doesn't necessarily mean better gains. You grow in the kitchen and while resting, not in the gym. I do weights 3 times per week whether on cycle or not, and I outgrow most people because I know how to eat, train, and give my body the recovery time it needs

Amen to that brother !!! Don't over complicate things , your physique is a direct result of what you do the 23 hours out of a day your NOT in the gym
 
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