Won't kill results right?

[theguy351]

im lifting a 3x5 now (log is up and running)

my question is i play high level hockey (goalie) and i have practice m,t,thurs and games sat/sunday. My question is will being on the ice for a toal of about 8-10 hours a week kill my results? i hope not!

 

[ZGzaZ]

since you play goalie, I doubt it will hurt you much.

 

[NJL52]

It won't kill it, but don't expect 30 pounds in 6 months. You will gain some strength, but not nearly as much as you would in the offseason.

 

[thesuaveone]

Talk with your coach, have him monitor your proformance on the ice, that is where you will notice the dip in results while on a bulking routine.

In season is probably not the best time to work this type of program without risking a loss of proformance in the sport.

 

[Cynical Simian]

Can't you just start an official "questions that popped into my head" thread rather than starting a new one each time?

As other have said, just be aware that you won't be able to put quite as much into either activity as you would if you were focusing on it alone. Given the position you play, a bigger concern than soreness or muscle fatigue will be slowdown in reaction time as systemic (CNS) fatigue accumulates and you get into overreaching in your lifting.

 

[theguy351]

Can't you just start an official "questions that popped into my head" thread rather than starting a new one each time?

As other have said, just be aware that you won't be able to put quite as much into either activity as you would if you were focusing on it alone. Given the position you play, a bigger concern than soreness or muscle fatigue will be slowdown in reaction time as systemic (CNS) fatigue accumulates and you get into overreaching in your lifting.

Sorry if I make too many threads for you but this is a message board so I can make a post whenever I want

So lifting will hurt my performance?

Ans this fatigue thing.....will it make me bad on the ice? Cause I'm lifting to get better at hockey....any ways to keep from poor play and still make good gains

 

[petpre61]

im lifting a 3x5 now (log is up and running)

my question is i play high level hockey (goalie) and i have practice m,t,thurs and games sat/sunday. My question is will being on the ice for a toal of about 8-10 hours a week kill my results? i hope not!

if you play high level hockey then I would wait until the off season. there is no
need for a goaltender to bulk, especially not during a season. get stronger and
faster, yeah but a lot heavier, nope. One of my buddies plays goaltender for an
Elite League team in Finland and he (just like no one else on the team) doesnt
start a bulking routine during the season. maintain your strength, work on
coordination, balance, speed and conditioning.
You could lift on Tuesday and Thursday. Start off with some plyos and
coordination to get going and then do 3x5.

 

[theguy351]

What if I do the 3x5 but not with bulking intentions......idk but I don't see how getting stronger can hurt even if its in season.......2 main things in about 3 to 4 months......in march the national championship tourney...need to be great for that then prolly under a month later tryouts for junior a teams (one step down from div1 or pro) and the coaches for these teams expect me to be bigger by then.....I also need to be able to play amazing then too......ahhh is it really gonna make me play bad? When I lifted b4 not a 3x5 or anything just some regular stuff, I felt pretty good on the ice, but now thinking about it I was in a sort of slump then too.......what if I keep up the plyos and stretching and such?

 

[petpre61]

just use the 3x5 twice a week and you will get stronger for sure. if you eat
enough you will gain some weight as well, just make sure u stay on the lean side
do plyos, stretches balance etc. as well.

 

[letsgorangers]

im not sure on this one...im a goalie too and i dont know to

 

[super_rice]

if your volume/intensity is high enough and your hockey schedule is stable, you can control your bodyweight with your workouts.

ie: eat like a horse, but stay lean because of heavy training.

 

[theguy351]

wait so is it ok to try and make gains in strength in season while maintaing the level of play that i am at? Because my legs are strong from hockey but i need them stronger ....squats

i need my back to be strong so i can be in my stance alot: deads, military press

upper body needs to be solid, bench isnt huge but its a contributing factor...bench and rows

those are what i need and those exercises match the need.....thats why i chose the 3x5.....

but if it is going to make me start to play bad i dont need that.

what if i toned the weights down a little.....idk maybe did the cardio 3 times a week anad weights twice to even it out....idk i need some help

 

[petpre61]

lol I see now why you are on the red side of karma.

I am going to tell you one more time, the 3x5 twice a week with additional work
on plyos, balance, conditioning and coordination will make you a better goalie. eat
enough to maintain/slightly increase your weight and you will be fine.


This was the goalie's in season strength/plyos routine for a D1 hockey team.

Monday

Plyometrics
Slide board/catch 3 × 6
DJ/lateral slide/catch 3 × 6

Total body
DB split alt ft alt snatch TB

Lower body
Squat/keg/log TL
Lat box jump 3 × 6

Trunk
1-leg ankle chop/twist 3 × 10

Upper body
DB alt incline TL


Wednesday

Plyometrics
Slide board/catch 3 × 6
DJ/lateral slide/catch 3 × 6

Total body
Hang squat clean TB

Lower body
Keg/log/hockey lunge TL

trunk
MB dec 1-arm throw 3 × 10
Keg twist lift 3 × 8

Sets/reps:
Sept 24–Sept 30: TB = 3 × 4 TL = 3 × 3
Oct 1–Oct 7: TB = 3 × 2@45% TL = 3 × 5
Oct 8–Oct 14: TB = 3 × 4@35% TL = 3 × 3
Oct 15–Oct 21: TB = 3 × 2@45% TL = 3 × 5
Oct 22–Oct 28: TB = 3 × 4@35% TL = 3 × 3
Oct 29–Nov 4: TB = 3 × 2@45% TL = 3 × 5

 

[theguy351]

thanks......what team is that for?

 

[petpre61]

I am not saying that it is a good routine but you see that they do lift to mantain
their strength and improve their speed...

it's from the Air Force

 

[theguy351]

Yea but the difference is I need to lift to get bigger sso when I'm at their level I only need to maintain

 

[petpre61]

Yea but the difference is I need to lift to get bigger sso when I'm at their level I only need to maintain

no because their off season routine is designed to increase strength which leads
their players to weight gains as well. since you are novice lifter it is not going to
be a big problem to increase your strength with the 3x5. players at higher levels
with less time on their hands and more demanding schedules usually try to
maintain or get a little stronger during the season.
I have a 40 hours week with hockey practice and games plus a part time job on
off days on the weekend and of course I still go to school. nevertheless I lift 2-3
times a week to get stronger.

enough now.

 

[theguy351]

ok thanks.....but you dont really have to be rude about it. "Enough now"

you play hockey? on air force?