Without steroids ??

[sos]

what is the maximum gain of muscles per year without steroids ??

 

[Volpe]

i was always told 20lbs a year naturally if your deit and training were good...but i might be wrong?anybody?

 

[MR Pink]

If you do everything right that might be the case in the first 1 or 2 years of weightlifting after that the gains come much slower

Mr Pink

 

[justyxxxx]

Personally, with a lot of supplementation I was able to gain around 21 lbs of lean muscle mass in 3 months. AND YOU CAN TOO with the NEW JustyXXXX MUSCLE POWER System. ok - just kidding. But, I wasn't joking about the 21 lbs of lean muscle part in three months . . . I kept a log of my success and that's how I know.

I used the program from Anthony Ellis at www.skinnyguy.net

 

[NapoleanComplex]

I definitley read somewhere that 8lbs of muscle was the average...(this does not count beginners)

 

[Mr.Holland]

I once read in a dutch BB magazine that if you are just training hard, and really have your diet in check (so no juice and no supplements either) ... the average is 5 LBS of lean muscle mass.

Not much huh...

But i dont know if its right, they didnt back it up with evidence so..

 

[powerforward]

beginners can make great gains their first 6-12 months of training, but i would think 15-20 lbs would be the max(unless you've got pretty good genetics) after that 5 lbs a year if everything is in line sounds about right. thats what makes aas so tempting for many people.

 

[bigp3]

after the first year 5-10 lbs max per year unless you have some kind of unreal test levels

 

[Rich_d]

this thread is so depressing. I'm just about to finish my last cycle for a while and am probably gonna lose around 10-20 pounds after I finish. This means that it'll take me 3 or 4 years to get where I am now if I can ever get here naturally. Shit!!!

 

[psychedout]

this thread is so depressing. I'm just about to finish my last cycle for a while and am probably gonna lose around 10-20 pounds after I finish. This means that it'll take me 3 or 4 years to get where I am now if I can ever get here naturally. Shit!!!

What makes you think you will loose 10-20 pounds??
Unless of course you are above your natural limit, which I doubt.
Just eat, eat, eat, train, and do the proper post-cycle theropy.
You should keep most of it.