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Top ten signs youve been studying organic chemistry too long

10. Every time you see a stop sign, you shout, "Cyclooctane!"

9. You accidentally called your dog Benji "Benzene."

8. When you saw the Red & Black headline about that weird UGA student, Ioulia Zaitseva, the first thing you thought was, "Hey, Zaitseva—like Zaitsev's rule!"

7. You can draw some of the compounds listed on your shampoo bottle.

6. It's becoming all too common that when you write the word "chemistry," you start it with CH3.

5. (FILL IN YOUR OWN CLEAVAGE JOKE HERE.)

4. You're so delirious from studying late every night that you're thinking maybe the final won't be so hard.

3. Your best pickup line is, "I can't spell nucleophile without U!"

2. You've added words like "snarf", "goober", and "honking" to your everyday vocabulary.

1. To be politically correct, you've started referring to fat people as "sterically hindered."
 
4everhung said:
eat some egg whites
5
lol. You want me to fart the place up there?

Part of the examination is oral, personally with the professor. I don´t want to pfffeeeeeewt in between sentences.
 
4everhung said:
I know your formulae
eggs come packaged in groups of 12
5 egg whites and one whole egg

Actually I buy them in a 5 dozen box from Wally-World Or Sams for $4.25. Adding the oatmeal, that's less than a buck for a pretty good sized breakfast
 
Valance electrons and shells, Lewis structures and resonance forms, charge delocalization, polar/non-polar bonds, inter- and intra-molecular forces, line-angle drawings, 3D orbitals and sp hybridization, sigme and pi bonds, carbon chains, and being able to circle and label all the functional groups in tetrahydrocannibol.

Piece of cake.

Make sure to get a full nights sleep before the exam. Memorization and memory recall are key, as well as actually understanding the mechanisms.

Get an A and post a scan of the grade on the exam and I'll shoot 20,000 karma your way!

Here's some review and practice tests with answer keys! (from my orgo courses):

http://www.uwosh.edu/faculty_staff/kedrowsk/exams.htm
Orgo 1 is chem "235", whereas chem "335" is orgo 2, which you might delve into.
http://www.uwosh.edu/faculty_staff/xie/235/chem235.htm
http://www.uwosh.edu/faculty_staff/xie/335/chem335.htm

Walk into the test room with the utmost confidence in your ability. Any hesitation or insecurity and you will be PWN3D by every pre-med gunner in that room.



:cow:
 
redguru said:
Actually I buy them in a 5 dozen box from Wally-World Or Sams for $4.25. Adding the oatmeal, that's less than a buck for a pretty good sized breakfast
I hear ya
I'm fairly thrifty myself
then I spend 80 to enjoy a football game in public
 
samoth said:
Valance electrons and shells, Lewis structures and resonance forms, charge delocalization, polar/non-polar bonds, inter- and intra-molecular forces, line-angle drawings, 3D orbitals and sp hybridization, sigme and pi bonds, carbon chains, and being able to circle and label all the functional groups in tetrahydrocannibol.

Pretty much that, yes. Also some more about reactions between organic molecules, types of addition, elimination, substitution and how to tell where they´ll happen on a bigger molecule. also lots of stuff on the 3D shapes and orientations

samoth said:
Piece of cake.

Make sure to get a full nights sleep before the exam. Memorization and memory recall are key, as well as actually understanding the mechanisms.

Get an A and post a scan of the grade on the exam and I'll shoot 20,000 karma your way!
I don´t really feel an A coming. The last chapter is most important and I dont know it well enough. Im going over it again now.

samoth said:
Here's some review and practice tests with answer keys! (from my orgo courses):

http://www.uwosh.edu/faculty_staff/kedrowsk/exams.htm
Orgo 1 is chem "235", whereas chem "335" is orgo 2, which you might delve into.
http://www.uwosh.edu/faculty_staff/xie/235/chem235.htm
http://www.uwosh.edu/faculty_staff/xie/335/chem335.htm
[QUOTE/]
I don´t really lack material. Moreso time.
samoth said:
Walk into the test room with the utmost confidence in your ability. Any hesitation or insecurity and you will be PWN3D by every pre-med gunner in that room.



:cow:

I´m not actually in pre-med, I´m already in med. there is no premed here, and getting a masters in medicine takes 7 years. kind of different system.
 
Good Luck
 
samoth said:
Valance electrons and shells, Lewis structures and resonance forms, charge delocalization, polar/non-polar bonds, inter- and intra-molecular forces, line-angle drawings, 3D orbitals and sp hybridization, sigme and pi bonds, carbon chains, and being able to circle and label all the functional groups in tetrahydrocannibol.



:cow:

LOL, gotta learn the important stuff!
 
Hiatussin said:

lol, thats no joke, I remember thinking that at exact same thing at 2am before an organic chemistry final.
Eyes starting to cross
 
redguru said:
LOL, gotta learn the important stuff!

See the exams I posted.

It was actually a question, lol. Our prof liked to show 'molecules of the week', from the aforementioned to pesticides to food additives. It kinda gave a tangible use for the concepts, as orgo is always one of the hardest -- or at least one with the reputation for the hardest -- courses in UG.



:cow:
 
When I dominated a test in college I always liked to walk by the teacher and slap him on the back of the head and say "is that all you got? you made walk across campus for that?"
 
we got 8 questions, with subquestions

4 were to be discussed during the oral examination.

The guy knew my name. he has like 3000 students. I dont know if thats good or bad. We went over all 8 the questions together. he even told me how to correct one thats not even meant to be discussed. He probably gave me a point there.

After looking through the whole thing, he said something like "I´ll see what I can do Hiatussin (he actually used my name again)" and handed me my papers back with some kind of reassuring nod...

I´m not sure. It was harder than I expected.
 
Hiatussin said:
we got 8 questions, with subquestions

4 were to be discussed during the oral examination.

The guy knew my name. he has like 3000 students. I dont know if thats good or bad. We went over all 8 the questions together. he even told me how to correct one thats not even meant to be discussed. He probably gave me a point there.

After looking through the whole thing, he said something like "I´ll see what I can do Hiatussin (he actually used my name again)" and handed me my papers back with some kind of reassuring nod...

I´m not sure. It was harder than I expected.

Hard to tell. Some profs keep a professional attitude, and often students interpret that negatively when they're used to the more personal, emotionally open teachers who are more likely to say, "good job! blah blah blah". So it could go either way. However, if he knew your name, that's a very good sign. Especially when you're often just a number, as is often the case in schools and universities.

Keep in mind I speak from my own perception and experiences in the U.S. school system, but many things can be universally generalized.

"Oral examinations" are something unheard of in the U.S., though, with the only real exception being PhD defence or quals or what have you.

Did you ever decide which direction in medicine you want to go?



:cow:
 
samoth said:
Hard to tell. Some profs keep a professional attitude, and often students interpret that negatively when they're used to the more personal, emotionally open teachers who are more likely to say, "good job! blah blah blah". So it could go either way. However, if he knew your name, that's a very good sign. Especially when you're often just a number, as is often the case in schools and universities.

Keep in mind I speak from my own perception and experiences in the U.S. school system, but many things can be universally generalized.

"Oral examinations" are something unheard of in the U.S., though, with the only real exception being PhD defence or quals or what have you.

Did you ever decide which direction in medicine you want to go?



:cow:

Most exams are oral here. I don´t know which I prefer.

That decision is not made until after 7 years samoth. and if it is to be in this school, I need to end top of my class to be able to choose anyway.
 
Hiatussin said:
Most exams are oral here. I don´t know which I prefer.

That decision is not made until after 7 years samoth. and if it is to be in this school, I need to end top of my class to be able to choose anyway.

I kinda like the oral exam concept, but I've never once experienced it.

So you can't choose over there? Here, it's 4 years undergrad and 4 in med school after that, where acceptance into med school is heavily dependent on undergrad grades and similarsuch. Specializing, I believe, happens after med school, with the popular areas like plastic surgery going to those who perform the best in med school.



:cow:
 
samoth said:
I kinda like the oral exam concept, but I've never once experienced it.

So you can't choose over there? Here, it's 4 years undergrad and 4 in med school after that, where acceptance into med school is heavily dependent on undergrad grades and similarsuch. Specializing, I believe, happens after med school, with the popular areas like plastic surgery going to those who perform the best in med school.



:cow:
Oral exams are good if the teacher is positively prejudiced about you.
I dress officially and act a gentleman in them... You cant be sure and they wont admit it, but it just has to make a difference to the guys taking their orals in jeans, spongebob socks and a gap sweater

Here you need to be in the better 5% of HS to apply to med school.

Then those people take an entry test. about 30% passes.

Those people are allowed into the 7 yr program to become a general physician basically. Specialising is basically only for the better ones. but you can go to a shittier school where they´d be glad to have a B or C student from mine.

yes it´s a supply and demand thing. the specialisations that make the best money have the lowest acceptance rates because everyone wants in on those. plastic surgery, cardiac, radiology...
 
Hiatussin said:
Most exams are oral here. I don´t know which I prefer.
interesting
initially I was thinking that a face-to-face exam would be more difficult
but if you know your subject well I think it would be easier
a mere minute of talk can cover pages of written word
 
4everhung said:
interesting
initially I was thinking that a face-to-face exam would be more difficult
but if you know your subject well I think it would be easier
a mere minute of talk can cover pages of written word
I personally believe in it.
 
Organic chemistry sounds pretty interesting. The problem I had with school was the other 5 classes that only served to divide my attention so much my interest faded in all of them collectively; even the ones that could've been interesting otherwise.

Good luck there though, I'm sure you're more studious than I ever was.
 
hanselthecaretaker said:
Organic chemistry sounds pretty interesting. The problem I had with school was the other 5 classes that only served to divide my attention so much my interest faded in all of them collectively; even the ones that could've been interesting otherwise.

Good luck there though, I'm sure you're more studious than I ever was.
tell me about it. I had 16 !!! subjects in HS

I only cared about 4 of them, maybe 5. I only use 4 of them for my current work...

fucking pinko liberal hippies making me take arts history and crafts
 
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