Wire taps

[Dr. JK]

Wire taps is one of the most common tools cops use to collect information and eveidence.

The qu8estion is how is it started and who gets tapped?

My understanding is thet calls are computer monitored for certain words and get placed into different gruops based on the frequency of the certain words. Then the group get randomly screened by cops for information.

Another way is if you call somone who is under surveilance and your number gets tapped for information.

Am I correct in these staements and is there more ways to get tapped?

Also, here in Canada there is a number you can call to see if your line is tapped by the type of beep you hear. Is that the same in the US?

Thanks for the feedback

 

[pittbull7]

bump for info

 

[Climber406]

bump for SOME DAMN INFO!!! hello?

 

[Latamier]

Bump for Rick to hopefully see. He will have the answer.

 

[pittbull7]

bumpppity bump lol

 

[Payphone_Johnny]

the vast majority of wire taps are ILLEGALLY DONE. They are used to gather intelligence.

 

[mrjuice]

Payphone is correct. Most wire taps are done ILLEGALLY. Cops only need legal wire taps in the event that the evidence collected will be used to prosecute the person under surveillance. But if the cops just want to see who you are talking to in order to get someone "higher up the totem pole", they don't need to get consent from a judge.

 

[Dr. JK]

Illegally done is what I stated in my post. The question is how are wire taps initiated and monitored.

Please ready my initial post before responding

Thanks

 

[tapoutm]

Bump!!!!!

 

[Rick Collins]

Sorry, I was out of town for a week and now need to unbury my desk and put out some fires. Wire taps are very, very rarely involved in steroid cases. But since the issue has importance for a few members and others might find it of some academic interest, I'll try to put something definitive together within the next month or so.

 

[ROID WARRIOR]

There are some interesting debates at present. This issue is ripe now with the extended latitude granted to law enforcement under the Patriot Act.

RW

 

[BrothaBill]

Hey I just got back from a tour at the FBI headquarters a couple of months ago, an aquaintance of mine turns out hes a bigwig at the FBI. He gave me a tour, went into the wiretap room and everything. A very nondescript room with just some computers and equipment. He explained whats entailed in securing permission to do a wiretap. Obviously I was very curious and asked alot of questions. Alot of time and effort is put into tapping, they have certain rules they have to follow about what they can listen to and for how long, so a person has to sit there the whole time. From what I gather its a complete pain in the ass to do and very labor intensive. So they dont just do it willy-nilly. This was just the FBI though and I have no idea what the other agencies local,state, dea are doing with tapping. It was pretty cool tour though, I saw the war-room when 9-11 happened. He was telling me what it was like that day and how shit hit the fan, This is Seattle so its the whole state of Washington headquarters building. Must've been a zoo. Those guys arent all that bad.

AND NO IM NOT A FED!

 

[bwood]

wiretapping as per the former U.S. district attorney
teaching my crim procedure pre-trial class...

congress forbids wiretapping by a search warrant...

before 9/11, it was limited to particularly heinous
crimes such as murder, kidnapping, etc...

9/11 added crimes related to terrorism activites, i believe...

it can take months to get court approval for a wiretap
and then it must be from an article III judge (life appointment)
so that the judge is immune to political pressure...

there must be no other feasible way to gather the
desired evidence...

the overall time limit on a wiretap order is short, 60
days is stretching it, i believe, but they can be continued
if it pleases the court...

there is a minimization requirement...this means that the feds
have to turn it off if the discussion does not concern the
subject matter they are seeking...however, they can tune
back in periodically to check that it doesnt...

wiretap law has its own exclusionary law plus the standard
protections of the 4th amendment PLUS criminal penalties
for agents that violate its requirements...

 

[gsxr600]

Dr.JK that phone wire tap checking thing in canada is a myth.
It doesnt work.

 

[ROID WARRIOR]

Lucias:

If you were in Washington State, you visited an FBI field office. The FBI Headquarters is in the Hoover Building in DC.

RW