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Wintrol for weight Loss

Everyone pretty much covered this... basically Winstrol works well on a calories restricted diet where most AAS need to be "fed" It also does promote much water retention. It won't help you loose weight, though. For that you need to diet and train correctly.
 
chiro2b said:
You ever have conversations outside of body building? If not, open your eyes and realize that those guidelines i gave are not for those of us straining our bodies by OVERLOADING OURSELVES WITH ANIMAL and HUMAN HORMONES (myself included)...He is not at that step, so don't compare the numbers that YOU see as ideal (200 and 8%) to the real numbers for a man to function at optimum health (for endocrine function, cardiovascular health, etc.) Your perspective may be warped-those calculations are not, as you so eloquently said, "rediculous".
ok, point taken. But lets move out of the bodybuilding world and say we have 2 people, both 5'9". One is a classic ecto, lets say he has a distance runners body and the other is a total mesamorph that naturally looks like a running back. There is no way these guys should weigh the same amount "naturally". That was really my point. I should weigh (according to the formula) 160lbs. Even if I didn't work out and wasn't totally addicted to the juice I would look scrawny at 160-165. I think this guy should eat a healthy diet, consistently do cardio and workout smart and then he should just watch the mirror. He'll know when he looks good and that may be at 180lbs or it may be at 230lbs.
 
Winstrol is great for cutting because it will give you a hard look and strength. Mainly because it builds LBM without estrogen sides. But you won't see that if it's covered with fat. So no it can't hurt, but it's an expensive way to lose fat and from the description you've given, someone 280, it could take the rest of the year and the better part of 2005 to see that hard look if that's all you're going to use.
You're better off with something that is made to burn fat like Thermorexin. Thermorexin will burn off WAY more fat than winny will and won't tax your liver, but it's not going to add any LBM.
 
hollywood17 said:
I guess what Im asking is with the correct diet and exorcise it can't hurt.

Winstrol (or any other AAS) don't lead to weight loss. They can be used to maintain muscle while you lose fat through diet and training. Without AAS you will lose some amount of muscle any time your weight drops.

The point here is, if you can't lose weight now with diet and training, winny will do nothing for you. Even if you did do a 6 week cycle and lost 10 lbs of body fat, the fat would come right back after the cycle was over because you haven't found the diet/training program that works naturally for you (yet).

There is no magic to AAS. All they do is help your muscle recover and grow faster in response to resistance training. A couch potato that injects a ridiculously high amount of testosterone will see zero results other than negative side effects (it's just an example, I'm not calling you a couch potato).

So first you must do the hard work, then you can use AAS to further the results.
 
nydj66 said:
Winstrol (or any other AAS) don't lead to weight loss. They can be used to maintain muscle while you lose fat through diet and training. Without AAS you will lose some amount of muscle any time your weight drops.

The point here is, if you can't lose weight now with diet and training, winny will do nothing for you. Even if you did do a 6 week cycle and lost 10 lbs of body fat, the fat would come right back after the cycle was over because you haven't found the diet/training program that works naturally for you (yet).

There is no magic to AAS. All they do is help your muscle recover and grow faster in response to resistance training. A couch potato that injects a ridiculously high amount of testosterone will see zero results other than negative side effects (it's just an example, I'm not calling you a couch potato).

So first you must do the hard work, then you can use AAS to further the results.

Correct. If you read or talk to any of the big dogs on the board you will find out that there is no steroid out there that burns fat! It all comes down to diet and exercize.
My buddy who gained 22lbs on winstrol gained all muscle. When I take it I put on mad muscle too. I just can't stand everyday shots!
 
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