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winstrol vs turanabol
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satchboogie
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im my opinion and im sure most members will agree, winny is a weak steroid. ive never heard of anybody gaining more than 1-2 pounds from winstrol. it DOES,however, have a very important role in contest preperation.
winstrol will help to harden the muscles and make you more vascular.
its also a favorite with models with low bodyfat.
in all, its much preferred stacked with another anabolic like test/deca/tren.
t-bol is a much stronger anabolic and a new steroid without enough literature on it to make a conclusive assessment.
however, many report its very similiar to d-bol minus the side affect.
t-bol is a very promising new steroid that shoud soon enough draw major attention from athletes, trainers, and bb'ers.
if i had to choose between the 2 it would be t-bol all the way.
hope that helps.
winstrol will help to harden the muscles and make you more vascular.
its also a favorite with models with low bodyfat.
in all, its much preferred stacked with another anabolic like test/deca/tren.
t-bol is a much stronger anabolic and a new steroid without enough literature on it to make a conclusive assessment.
however, many report its very similiar to d-bol minus the side affect.
t-bol is a very promising new steroid that shoud soon enough draw major attention from athletes, trainers, and bb'ers.
if i had to choose between the 2 it would be t-bol all the way.
hope that helps.
jacked clown
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I swear there was a thread on this same name and everything like 2 days ago
nishnish
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what everybody seems to forget about winstrol is the massive gain in strength it provides, making it a very useful compound while bulking.
more strength + muscle endurance makes for very intense training sessions. as long as it is stacked with compounds that aid recovery (test and deca namely) the trainer will find that the winstrol actually helped them gain more muscle mass in the end.
let's not also forget it is a potent anti-e... it bonds to the receptor sites so estrogen can't.
it also has a the potential to increase the effectiveness of the drugs you stack it with.
not knocking tbol at all, i plan on using it myself, but winny will always have a place in my bulking cycles. it's not just a contest drug!
more strength + muscle endurance makes for very intense training sessions. as long as it is stacked with compounds that aid recovery (test and deca namely) the trainer will find that the winstrol actually helped them gain more muscle mass in the end.
let's not also forget it is a potent anti-e... it bonds to the receptor sites so estrogen can't.
it also has a the potential to increase the effectiveness of the drugs you stack it with.
not knocking tbol at all, i plan on using it myself, but winny will always have a place in my bulking cycles. it's not just a contest drug!
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satchboogie
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nishnish said:
DannoMight
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winny when added to a deca/test cycle gives me results nothing short of fantastic in terms of strength and size. but my elbows especially and other joints start aching badly if i don't have deca to go with it. i'm currently using it with my precontest cycle without deca(eq instead) and i can't wait to get off next week. i'm going to replace it with t-bol on my next precontest/cutting cycle. there are too many good reviews not to try it.
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satchboogie
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nishnish said:
ive used it many times and i love it!!!!
FOR ITS MUSCLE HARDENING PROPERTIES!!
as far as strentgh gains from winstrol..
i didnt feel they were signficant at all.
in my opinion, a great cosmetic drug and a MUST pre contest.
but i respect your opinion and if from personal experience you believe it increased your strength, by all means brotha dont let me stop you from doin it...
little chris
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I disagree inthat I believe that winny is excellent for strength and SIZE.
Last cycle was my a simple Prop/50mgs/eod & Oral Winny/75mgs/ed and I got bigger and stronger than ever all while having a steady 8% BF.
Other cycles done.
Deca/350mgs/pw
Primo/300mgs/pw
Dbol/20mgs/pw
Sustanon/500mgs/pw
Primo/400mgs/pw
Dbol/30mgs/pw
Prop/50mgs/eod
Primo/600mgs/pw
Last cycle was my a simple Prop/50mgs/eod & Oral Winny/75mgs/ed and I got bigger and stronger than ever all while having a steady 8% BF.
Other cycles done.
Deca/350mgs/pw
Primo/300mgs/pw
Dbol/20mgs/pw
Sustanon/500mgs/pw
Primo/400mgs/pw
Dbol/30mgs/pw
Prop/50mgs/eod
Primo/600mgs/pw
nishnish
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satchboogie said:
i hear ya satch... you're right- it does have a great effect on muscle hardness and vascularity, which everyone knows already from it's popularity during pre-contest.
i just know that in all the cycles i have done over the past 10 years, nothing, and i mean NOTHING, gave me the explosive strength gains that winstrol did. this led to more poundage which led to more muscle growth.
i am in PCT right now and will stay clean until the first of the year, but my jan. 1st cycle will be:
week 1-10: 750mg sustanon/wk
week 1-10: 450mg deca/wk
week 3-10: 50 mg winstrol/day
i expect nothing short of 25 pounds from this cycle, even with the winny in there, which will limit water retention.
CAN'T WAIT!!!
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satchboogie
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stick with what works my man.
monster2929
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winny without deca= bullshit joint pain and i dont know how the hell u would have strenght gains without deca in there somewhere cuz when i did winny without deca i felt like i had tendonitis in every tendon in my body without deca winny sux in my opinion but everybody is different
bicepts101
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winstrol got me stronger than any steroid ever has..the only compound that beats it as far as strength goes is anadrol for me....everyone is different....
uglyass
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Satch, Tbol (Oral Turinabol) has been around since the 60's bro. It's not a new steroid but was discontinued and has now become popular again as UG labs are making it. 
Hype, I would go for Tbol over winny. Winny does give better strength gains and will harden you up line nothing else. Tbol is somewhere between dbol and winny for me. No bloat, some LBM, hard, vascular and good strength gains. I like it
UglyASS
Hype, I would go for Tbol over winny. Winny does give better strength gains and will harden you up line nothing else. Tbol is somewhere between dbol and winny for me. No bloat, some LBM, hard, vascular and good strength gains. I like it
UglyASS
little chris
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uglyass said:Satch, Tbol (Oral Turinabol) has been around since the 60's bro. It's not a new steroid but was discontinued and has now become popular again as UG labs are making it.
Hype, I would go for Tbol over winny. Winny does give better strength gains and will harden you up line nothing else. Tbol is somewhere between dbol and winny for me. No bloat, some LBM, hard, vascular and good strength gains. I like it
UglyASS
No burn intended here ugly but as far as your tbol info is this based on your own experience or other people's info?
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DieselGunz
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Tbol all the way
nsashbl01
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uglyass said:Satch, Tbol (Oral Turinabol) has been around since the 60's bro. It's not a new steroid but was discontinued and has now become popular again as UG labs are making it.
Hype, I would go for Tbol over winny. Winny does give better strength gains and will harden you up line nothing else. Tbol is somewhere between dbol and winny for me. No bloat, some LBM, hard, vascular and good strength gains. I like it
UglyASS
Bro, your are restating the obvious that Satch said. He calls it a new steroid because no sources have had it till recently. As far as the difference. I feel that Winny is for two things. Pre-contest or bro's with higher bf. Anyone I know that is lean can't handle it for more than a few weeks due to the joint pains. Thicker guys can though. I can only handle it for a week or two before I'm a cripple, but I do shread from it. Tbol on the other hand is not even similar to me as Dbol. It effects me just like high dose var. Hits me within a week, and does not bloat at all. Strength is good on it, and I have done 40mg through 60mg. 40mg seems fine in the end. Tbol is also pretty cheap. I've yet to check my liver values while using it, but will soon.
For the first week or so on Tbol I actually get a sort of buz when I take it. For the first hour or so......
uglyass
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nsashbl01 said:
Look bro, I wasn't having a go at Satch - he's a good bro and I've learned a lot from his posts, I was just clearing it up for other people that read the thread. How is it stating the obvious when it ISNT a new steroid??
High dose var is a good comparison, I don't get the same crazy strength gains I get from it though but I do get a good increase. For me it is like slightly weak dbol but with no sides. More LBM gains than winny but less strength.
I'll probably use tbol over dbol and winny from now on. I prefer high dose var to tbol though as I get MEGA strong from it and some LBM too.
UglyASS
JohnnyWest
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Originally Posted by Jacked Clown
yeah i posted a few days ago, at first i thought this was my thread but the i remebered i used short forms
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=435452
yeah i posted a few days ago, at first i thought this was my thread but the i remebered i used short forms
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=435452
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