Winstrol: two questions

[Mike P.T.]

This is the 2nd thread where you have said that something was useless by itself. First Eq, now winny, both useless by themselves? I beg to differ. Maybe he wants what winny alone can offer, rather than telling everyone they need test.

Agreed.

However, individuals who are impatient and who also have shit genetics and/or poor training and eating habits might not want to do milder cycles since these people rely more on drugs to achieve their gains.

I've done an eq only cycle and got good gains. I also am currently on a winny only cycle taking it orally and have run this before as well with good gains.

Another thing test is a good base but it's not needed for everyone.

btw - winny is c-17 alpha alkylated so yes it will work well when taken orally although injecting would be better.

 

[rigo7910]

I am going to run a winny only cycle also. I am not sure how many mg/day or how long I should run it ? I was gonna do 50mg/day for 6 weeks does that sound a/b right?

Agreed.

However, individuals who are impatient and who also have shit genetics and/or poor training and eating habits might not want to do milder cycles since these people rely more on drugs to achieve their gains.

I've done an eq only cycle and got good gains. I also am currently on a winny only cycle taking it orally and have run this before as well with good gains.

Another thing test is a good base but it's not needed for everyone.

btw - winny is c-17 alpha alkylated so yes it will work well when taken orally although injecting would be better.

 

[Dieharder]

winny is king for cutting

 

[TheRide]

This is the 2nd thread where you have said that something was useless by itself. First Eq, now winny, both useless by themselves? I beg to differ. Maybe he wants what winny alone can offer, rather than telling everyone they need test.

Agree... w/Clean. I do not think either is "useless" by themselves. Personally I have used EQ alone and w/proper nutrition and training was very pleased with the results. In terms of Winstrol, don't underestimate its potential. @ 50mg/ED or even EOD, you can obtain some decent results. Now granted it won't be the same as if you stacked it with additional AAS but, it's far from "useless"

 

[bimmerny]

From my own experience Winstrol worked great by itself, I ran it 100mg everyother day for 6 weeks and it gave me 8 lbs of muscle that I kept. It was QV Stan 100, painfull shit... so I drank it.

 

[yomama]

whatever bro. If you read the EQ thread closely, it was going to be his FIRST cycle. I don't care what you say, EQ for a first cycle, especially by itself is USELESS!! As a first cycle he should run a test, and EQ along with the test should be run at no less than 400mg. If you are into giving newbies advice on how EQ is a great first cycle then more power to you. I however do not believe EQ alone, especially as a first cycle is a good move, and yes, test is a base for ALL cycles. I can't wait till i hear that someone wants to run TREN by itself, and you come out of nowhere saying it's ok to run tren by itself....come on now. BTW, to me, winstrol by itself is a useless cycle, from many others that i have listened to and conversated with. They all came back dissapointed. When they tried it again, and added a generous amount of test to the cycle, they were wondering why they hadn't listened to me in the first place. Drinking will yield some gains, but nowhere close to what injecting it will do. Drinking winstrol will only waste a good amount.

I agree, why not get the most of it, by taking 2 or 3 inject on the same cycle. Anything alone is a waste.

 

[SuperDawgy]

This completely depends on what he is expecting from the cycle. I'm running an 8wk winny cycle solo right now. Then again, i have enough mass to make the Win worth it. If you're trying to get thick and lean at the same time...know that even though its possible, it takes time. if you want to add some lean mass fast and harden up, i agree with Mike...throw some test in your ass bro!

 

[Slyder190]

8 weeks of Winny is not a waste of money. Results should be nice, a little gain in LBM and a harder appearance. I agree tough test should be the base for every cycle. Also, 6 weeks may be a better idea as far as the Winny as it's a 17AA.

 

[fugetaboutit]

I love how people waste their breath and generalize cycles as if they worked the same for everybody. I agree with theride and clean, and disagree with big mike.
1. Winstrol by itself DOES work. (If the person has mass and wants to get ripped while preserving AND maybe adding a few more pounds of lean muscle, then this is for them)
2. Injectable winstrol is JUST AS EFFECTIVE when taken orally because it is 17aa no matter what. That means you DON'T "loose a lot of it" (as big mike stated) when it passes through your liver the first time.
3. Winstrol is not "useless" and not a waste of money. It will produce great resluts with 50mg/ed for 6 weeks. Best part is.....you get to keep all your gains.
Big mike, I didn't mean to flame you there, but I would just wish that people would say facts when trying to give advice to other people on here. We all know that winny is just about as good taken orally (injectable kind) than if it was shot. People say "if you can't inject, then you're not ready for aas". I think that's one of the most bullshit statements people make. From a rational stand point...(and by the way, I do inject)....if someone doesn't want to do anything except one cycle in their whole life and they want to get cut, add a few lean lbs of muscle and try winny orally, are you telling me they won't get results??? Do they need fucking pemission from anybody to do that cycle? Who are these people telling them they are not ready for an aas cycle?? If a winny cycle is effective (orally), then why can't someone do just one and benefit from it?? I love seeing people just echo other shit that people say on here. It's so rediculous. Winny works by itself. It is a great steroid.

 

[kmg]

I just started winny Im taking 1 cc every 6 days. Is this enough or do i need more?