Clean said:This is the 2nd thread where you have said that something was useless by itself. First Eq, now winny, both useless by themselves? I beg to differ. Maybe he wants what winny alone can offer, rather than telling everyone they need test.
Agreed.
However, individuals who are impatient and who also have shit genetics and/or poor training and eating habits might not want to do milder cycles since these people rely more on drugs to achieve their gains.
I've done an eq only cycle and got good gains. I also am currently on a winny only cycle taking it orally and have run this before as well with good gains.
Another thing test is a good base but it's not needed for everyone.
btw - winny is c-17 alpha alkylated so yes it will work well when taken orally although injecting would be better.