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What should I take with oral winstrol to help the liver/cholestoral? Do you really need to PCT after winstrol with nolvadex even though it does not aromatize?
Winstrol Oral Dosage
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The Liver has two main functions: it acts as the gateway from the digestive system to the bloodstream AND it filters the entire volume of the body's blood every 30 minutes or so.
If you take winny (or any 17AA steroid) orally, a small percentage is broken down by the liver in the first pass (from the digestive system) and the rest is broken down little by little in each successive pass (with the blood).
Injected winny bypasses the digestive system but the Liver still has to break all of it down.
It's the same stress on the Liver either way.
badsanta488
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so are you saying 50mg of oral winny/day will have the same liver toxicity as 50mg inj winny/day?
No, taking winny orally it has to pass through the liver twice as does any other oral that you take. Injecting it isn't as harsh on your liver but still has effects on you liver regardless. If your going to take it at 50mg/day that is fine IMO but you should look into Lipoflame, Lipostim from www.agxsports.com . I have a buddy using Zip and he loves it, that's an option. The winny is going to make you hard but as far as leaning up really it comes down to your diet.
*The_West*
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whether or not a steroid aromatises has nothing to do with pct-using ANY aas will cause your body to slow, or even stop producing testosterone. it is imperative that you implement an effective pct to restore your bodies natural production of endogenous testosterone, even after 6 weeks on winstrol.
That's exactly what I'm saying. Either way the liver has to breakdown 50mg of winny.
The only argument one could make is that since injecting it releases it more slowly into the body, you avoid the stress from a high dosage all at once like you get with the first pass.
Incidentally, many people repeat the misinformation that taking 17AA drugs orally causes it to pass through the Liver twice. As I pointed out earlier, the total amount of drug gets broken down in the Liver little by little with each successive pass.
On average, winny probably passes through the Liver something like 20 times before it's all gone.
ConanX
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Because I've done it before. I went on an extreme calorie deficit and basically cut out most carbs and had high protein. Did lots of cardio and I lost a lot of weight but looked even more muscular and my strength increased.
I was also on ECA and switched to Clenbuterol.
That seemed to do the trick for me. I haven't used Winstrol yet so I can't tell you yes or no, but I do know that Anavar worked great for this.
badsanta488
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unless you are female 20mg/day is a complete waste. you need 50 ED which is the minimum you would probably take if you were injecting
