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I am going to do a 8 week cycle of winstrol only and want to know which route I should take. Should I use injectable at 50mg a day or use tabs at 50 mg a day?
winstrol only cycle
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The Iron Game
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Tabs no doubt
JUICEMONKEY
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Actually I get the 50mg pills for about $1.35 a pill but I can't do any better than $10.00 per 50mg amp,so that is a difference of $8.65 in favor of the pills. What kind of prices are you dealing with.
JUICEMONKEY
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What do you mean split them? And is EQ ok instead of deca?
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Big Johnson
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Where do you find winny tabs at that price? Mexico? Email me, Juice.
ItalianSta
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would winny , anavar and eq be a good cycle . if so in what doses ?
Hugh Gellatts
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I'm on anavar only at 80mg a day and really like it. I'm getting much more strength than I did from winstrol, no hairloss (got that with winstrol) and no joint pain (got that also with winny). I'm taking all 80mg first thing in the morning per the advice of Bill Roberts, and have no nut shrinkage or anything. I'm actually bigger and stronger on the var than when I was using a gram of prop a week.
IMHO there is no comparison between winstrol and anavar. I don't really see the need to stack winny with it, since that would really be a bit much for the liver. The whole lack of type II roids doesn't worry me, since it seems like my natural test hasn't been shut down much.
BTW I'm using the IP 40's.
IMHO there is no comparison between winstrol and anavar. I don't really see the need to stack winny with it, since that would really be a bit much for the liver. The whole lack of type II roids doesn't worry me, since it seems like my natural test hasn't been shut down much.
BTW I'm using the IP 40's.
JUICEMONKEY
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Has anyone else seen prices on 50mg winny tabs this low?
The Iron Game
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brama said:
I.M and Oral are no different. You are still getting what you need where you need it. Same stuff bro
Hugh Gellatts
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Jeff, that's an interesting idea. So I guess I would take it on workout days only... Stuff is working so well at 80mg ED though that I'm hesitant about changing anything
The Iron Game
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Cuts said:
As I said above but will say again, nah just read above.
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Cuts
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Excerpt from Anabolics 2000:
"With the structural (c17-AA) alteration, the tablets wil also place a higher level of stress on the liver than the injectable (which avoids the "first pass"). During longer or higher dosed cycles, liver values should therefore be watched closely through regular blook work. Although less common, the possiblility of liver damage cannot be excluded with the injectable.. While it does not enter the body through the liver, it is still broken down by it, providing a lower (but more continuous) level of stress... the oral version should have a greater impact on cholesterol values than the injectable due to the method of administration, and may therefore be the worse choice of the two for those concerned about this side effect."
Is this accurate? If so, I interpret this to mean that injectables are the better choice b/w the two. So, again, why is everyone insisting that tabs are better? Why Iron, are you saying they're the same? I'm not trying to prove ya'll wrong... I'm just curious as to what the truth and reasoning behind it is.
The Iron Game said:
Excerpt from Anabolics 2000:
"With the structural (c17-AA) alteration, the tablets wil also place a higher level of stress on the liver than the injectable (which avoids the "first pass"). During longer or higher dosed cycles, liver values should therefore be watched closely through regular blook work. Although less common, the possiblility of liver damage cannot be excluded with the injectable.. While it does not enter the body through the liver, it is still broken down by it, providing a lower (but more continuous) level of stress... the oral version should have a greater impact on cholesterol values than the injectable due to the method of administration, and may therefore be the worse choice of the two for those concerned about this side effect."
Is this accurate? If so, I interpret this to mean that injectables are the better choice b/w the two. So, again, why is everyone insisting that tabs are better? Why Iron, are you saying they're the same? I'm not trying to prove ya'll wrong... I'm just curious as to what the truth and reasoning behind it is.
The Iron Game
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Re: ???
It is true but they failed to mention that injectable winstrol is also a c 17aa. It will do as much damage to the liver as the oral winstrol even if injected. This is also the case with liquid dianabol and anadrol.
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Cuts said:
It is true but they failed to mention that injectable winstrol is also a c 17aa. It will do as much damage to the liver as the oral winstrol even if injected. This is also the case with liquid dianabol and anadrol.
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The Iron Game said:
Iron, I think what Llewelyn was trying to say is that yes, both Winny forms are c-17aa, but oral administration will result in GI absorption, transport through the portal vein, and DIRECT delivery to the liver. On the other hand, injecting Winny will allow it at least one pass throught the circulation in it's UNCHANGED form before hepatic delivery throught the hepatic artery. Therefore, less of it will reach the liver to be deactivated, resulting in a greater efficacious dose and less stress on the liver.
The Iron Game
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Cuts said:
Lets examine this closely:
50mgs of oral use or
50 mgs on injectable use
The injectable will miss one pass of the liver, this amount lost by a c17 aa when passing the liver once is nothing short of negligble in both side effect increases or effectiveness increases.
At a max, 5% will be wasted 50 mgs = 2.5mgs (5%). Do you really think people will inject when they can use oral with no major difference in both sides or results? The only possible benefit of shooting winny is for any possible site enhancements it may bring with it and as Cockdezl mentioned in your other post, you wont feel the same 3 weeks after you stop.
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The Iron Game said:
Hmmm... good info Iron. I didn't realize that hepatic first-pass takes apart such a small % of an orally administered drug. If that # you stated is correct, I'd agree that there isn't a significant difference b/w oral vs. parenteral routes.
I LOVE winny by itself, i used IP 50mg tabs for 8 weeks and made awesome gains(15lbs of quality muscle) and i was taking 50mg ED. As long as you eat right and train correctly you should atleast get comparable results. I didnt want to stack it with other juice cause i wanted to see how legit the IP tabs really were.
mike
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I have 200 ip 50mg And want to take only this i have done injectables in the past but just want to GET a bit Ripped.
How should i take these ?
Anyone know A good Cycle EX 1 a day first week 2a day next 3 weeks Etc
Also Should i swallow,Chew,or put under my tounge.. i here all different ways
How should i take these ?
Anyone know A good Cycle EX 1 a day first week 2a day next 3 weeks Etc
Also Should i swallow,Chew,or put under my tounge.. i here all different ways
solidspine
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I would add test/or fina to that winny cycle.
ben dovergurl
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fczeuner said:
holy crap...you can drink winny??
