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jc21

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anyone else have this problem?

i shake up the winny and pull it into the syringe, and push the needle into my bi or tri. aspirate and everything is fine, but when i try to push the plunger in, it wont even move. i am using a 25g 1 inch needle. what do u guys think?
 
Is this Ttokkyo winny? It seems that people who use the Ttokkyo winny have a hard time getting it threw a 22g even.

Why not just drink it?
 
no it isnt Tt, it is the mexiacan stuff. there are a few reasons i shoot it. first it is easier on the liver, second there is no proof that oral works as good as injections, third i dont mind injections, fourth winny is said to be good for site injections. i saw my buddies arms blow up off injecting winny into his arms.
 
jc21 said:
no it isnt Tt, it is the mexiacan stuff. there are a few reasons i shoot it. first it is easier on the liver, second there is no proof that oral works as good as injections, third i dont mind injections, fourth winny is said to be good for site injections. i saw my buddies arms blow up off injecting winny into his arms.

That is a myth..I have heard from many people who are well respected that it has the same effect on the liver taken orally as it does when injected.

M18
 
but i dont see how that is. when u take it orally it goes through the liver twice, while u take an injection it only goes through once.
 
jc21 said:
but i dont see how that is. when u take it orally it goes through the liver twice, while u take an injection it only goes through once.

Why would it go through twice if taken orally? Never heard of this before.:confused:
 
I agree with M18. I've been doing a lot of reading up on winny and deca for my first cycle. I don't pretend to know the chemistry or whatever, but all I've read tells me that winny, because of the type of AS it is, only goes through the liver once, whether injected or oral.

Hopefully, one of the vets can provide a better explanation than I can. But either way, it's ok to take orally.
 
i know that most orals go through the liver twice (dbol, anadrol, etc.) but i have never heard that winny doesnt. anyone got any literature on this subject.
 
jc21 said:
i know that most orals go through the liver twice (dbol, anadrol, etc.) but i have never heard that winny doesnt. anyone got any literature on this subject.

You KNOW that most orals go through the liver twice? I have never heard of anything like that! Where did you hear this?
 
i cant site any specific places that i read it, but i do remember reading it before a few times. I'll keep looking for it.
 
Just read this from: http://www.childliverdisease.org/body_the_liver.html

and it says:

The blood supply to and from the liver

Blood enters the liver by two separate routes:

1) The hepatic artery which brings freshly oxygenated blood to the liver. Within the liver the artery divides into fine branches which supply blood to the fine bile ducts. This blood passes on to special capillaries, called sinusoids, which take blood to every cell.

2)The portal vein which carries blood containing nutrients from the stomach and intestine to the liver. The portal vein also carried blood from the spleen.
The portal vein divides into very fine branches which drain into the sinusoids.
The blood leaves the sinusoids by the hepatic vein and returns to the heart

So either way if injecting or taking something orally(17aa) it is going to go in the blood stream just by different passages and go to the liver where by either method they go to the sinusoids and they are carried to all the cells. So just from this you can see that it DOESN'T pass twice. there is more technical data I have seen showing this but just reading the two passages to the liver sums it up IMO.

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