8and20 said:i prefer var. i thought my vascularity really came out nicely with it. i never really felt too much strength increase but then again i am comparing it to my favorite oral dbol. for me winstrol was more "cosmetic" giving me that dry look but it has the added benefit on free test by way of SHBG. then again var is mild and doesnt aromatize.
the choices.....
what else do u plan on running?

xrsist said:what do you mean a very bad shoulder?
have you had it check out by a doc?
dont start a cycle with injuries, your only setting your self up to be injured more
I would say the same. Winny is no good if your bones and joints already hurt. Just asking for trouble.Tux said:In that case, I'd definitely go with the var. It won't make your joints( shoulder in particular) hurt, and if you can afford even more of it, you might can add more or lengthen the cycle. If your shoulder is just bursitis, I've had that alot... it's just inflammation of the joint, normally from overtraining. Rest the shoulder, ice it, but if it hurts every week, just go to the doc. No sense getting halfway through a nice cycle and messing up a rotator cuff or something. But yes, given the choices and your shoulder issue, I'd go with var.
eddymerckx said:var no joint pain and if you cut yourself you heal faster than Wolverine

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