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winny or armidex??

Depends on dosages of androl and test cyp and wether you get PR gyno or regualr easier....Winny is not a fail safe against PR gyno esp that caused by androl....Run both if you have the money to be safe though
 
metal rail said:
I am going to run a cycle of anadrol test cyp and gh should I run armidex or winny with it to prevent gyno.
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Arimidex prevents estrogen, not progesterone, winny will help with that
 
ok so anadrol 4 weeks 50 mg, 100mg, 100 mg, 100 mg
cyp 10 weeks 750 mg a week

how much armidex adn hopw much winny and should the winny be injectable or tabs
 
.5mg arimidex will prevent gyno 1mg will keep off bloat and on the winny you can inject 50mg zambons eod or take orally ed or get the chineese ones (YUCK) and run them at 75mg-100mg a day while on anadrol....other may have different opinions on this but there whas a post saying that injected winny was better that included a study done now I do not believe that just yet as they are chemically the same and desighned to prevent the liver from getting rid of it but if you want to inject try zambons if you get them at a reasonable price
 
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str8cubano said:


what drug mentioned above raises progesterone?
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Anadrol will definately raise progesterone, the others will help with water retention but not gyno
 
yes 8 is good depending on what country you are getting them from if its domestic its great if its international its average
 
so would I wan tto take the winny for all ten weeks or just during anadrol or only after the cyp starts to kick in? And the armidex should be run throught the whlole ten weeks correct
 
There is no conclusive study that Winny does anything to combat progesterone. Growth still requires activation of MORE than one receptor, ie, E and I, or P, E, and I. One can stop the gyno symptoms from just about anything with something that blocks E or I.
Nolvadex does both and Arimidex works on I induced symptoms as well as E induced symptoms.
 
winny with androl will probably be effective but watch your liver I forgot to mention that, have every liver protectant made. Run winny just with the androl if its just for gyno protection but watch that liver
 
tee said:
There is no conclusive study that Winny does anything to combat progesterone. Growth still requires activation of MORE than one receptor, ie, E and I, or P, E, and I. One can stop the gyno symptoms from just about anything with something that blocks E or I.
Nolvadex does both and Arimidex works on I induced symptoms as well as E induced symptoms.
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I know there is no PROOF but its th best hope we have and explain all these letter you have thrown out I just think you are trying to sound scientific to scare newbies...I think I know what you mean to say however
 
ok cb winny with just the anadrol for liver protectors something like B-12 or is there an over the counter drug, and how much
 
alot of shit
1200mg Alpha lipoic acid
1000-1500mg milk thistle
Glutamine can help
Cranberry extrct
tylers liver detox over at AF if you can afford it

Do a search on liver protectant and E2 he has them all listed with maybee the ecception of ALA which is a sort of new idea but very helpfull
 
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yeah lets stick to the basics all the ibac kjsfdhosadyfo I can't be all that bothered just trying to get the best results with least amount of problems just time proven recipes
 
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g-dogg said:
Anadrol will definately raise progesterone, the others will help with water retention but not gyno
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oh, well there you go. I didn't know that. I thought that the only drugs that raised progesterone levels were deca/fina
 
alright let me get this straight now 50 mg eod with zambons during anadrol only and 1200mg aplhalipoic acid ed during that time and .5 to 1.0 mg of armidex throught out whole cycle and I should be golden right RIGHT Thanks for your input
 
Metal rail,

Despite what the peanut gallery is saying, I am not trying to confuse you or throw out horse shit. Arimidex will definitely help you. Winny may, but there is no conclusive proof. It wont hurt ya though! Also is an OTC (Thats Over The Counter) didnt want to confuse anyone thats called Vitex. Its supposed to help combat (P) gyno as well, but I dont know of any study proving that either.
 
yeah sounds good but watch that liver...other thatn that you gonna blow up off all this good luck and do the search on liver protectants and E2
 
tee said:
There is no conclusive study that Winny does anything to combat progesterone. Growth still requires activation of MORE than one receptor, ie, E and I, or P, E, and I. One can stop the gyno symptoms from just about anything with something that blocks E or I.
Nolvadex does both and Arimidex works on I induced symptoms as well as E induced symptoms.
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Do you feel the same way about prolactin induced gyno? I have tried all of the above with fina and still had nip issues. Maybe prolactin induced gyno is a different animal not affected by these methods. Bromocriptine and cabergoline (I think this was the name of it) might have helped but I dont' have these yet. Tried Vitex also.
 
milkbone said:


Do you feel the same way about prolactin induced gyno? I have tried all of the above with fina and still had nip issues. Maybe prolactin induced gyno is a different animal not affected by these methods. Bromocriptine and cabergoline (I think this was the name of it) might have helped but I dont' have these yet. Tried Vitex also.
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I got the start of fina gyno from doing a fina only cycle of 75mg EOD. I took Androzole(sp) aka liquid Arimidex of .5cc daily and it cleared up. I dont know 100% whether it was the 'A' that worked, or if it was the fact that I stopped taking the fina....or both. I never tried the bromocriptine and cabergoline either. If you do, please post the results for us!
 
I've found that when I experienced the nip issues on fina, I could stop taking it and the symptoms would go away in about 1 1/2 to 2 days. My left nip is a little bigger, but I'm not sure it happened on the fina. I never really paid much attention to the nips until I started messing with fina, which was my first experience. I plan on trying the bromocriptine or cabergoline with fina in the future, but it doesn't seem to be something that's easily obtainable. I have thought about trying to get it from a doc, but not sure I wanna go down that road yet. If / when I try it I'll let you know if it works for me since I should be a true test of its effectiveness.
 
tee said:


I got the start of fina gyno from doing a fina only cycle of 75mg EOD. I took Androzole(sp) aka liquid Arimidex of .5cc daily and it cleared up. I dont know 100% whether it was the 'A' that worked, or if it was the fact that I stopped taking the fina....or both. I never tried the bromocriptine and cabergoline either. If you do, please post the results for us!
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It's cause you stoped...Arimidex will do nothing against fina gyno
 
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