winny only cycle

[f360spy]

looking to run 25mg ed winny w/ ECA to cut. anyone have any experience with the effectiveness of a winny only cycle? hoping to maintain all my muscle. currently about 14%bf trying to get to 10%.

also i was thinking of adding clen instead of ECA, but i dont think it will help much and ECA is cheap.

f360

 

[galaxy]

Minimum of 50mgs ed at least. 25mgsx7=175mgs total gear a week . This seems like just enough to shut down, but not do much positive. 350mgs would be much better.

 

[Little Rage]

ran a 6 week winny/clen cycle:

50mg ed: wks 1-4
100mg ed: wk 5
150mg ed: wk 6

I personally don't respond to low doses of winny and didn't see much results until i raised the dosage to 100mg and the hardness came even more around week 6 at 150mg.

overall i was not that excited about results, but I got to see how i responded to it. I have used it in another 6 week cutting cycle and it worked really well.

 

[twistedneck]

I wouldn't switch to clen - ECA is better .. I think Big Cat said add Y at the last two to three weeks.

Winny would be a very good androgen to cut with. Also try Masteron or Proviron - with proviron you could just run low dose test and cut even better.

 

[IJ26]

winny isnt gonna get u cut u need to diet and do cardio as well at 14% bf u won't see much of its muscle hardening effects.

 

[chaquito]

i have done winstrol depot only before, 50mg ED for 6 weeks. it was one of the best cycles i have done! hard muscles, great strengh, and a couples of pounds of LBM.

 

[f360spy]

what kind of calories would you recommend? Im trying to be about 1200-1300/day w/ 100-150 grams of protein. i may try the ketogenic thing

also, im 180lbs now 6'0".

thanks

 

[philthyb]

From experience, DO NOT USE WINNY BY ITSELF WITHOUT SOMETHING OIL BASED ....I am assuming you were are like I used to be, afraid of needles.....it took me some time to get over that, but I understand if that is the case....but trust me here, I did winny by itself for my first cycle (at age 25)... unbelievable results at 50mgs... but I should have listened to my peers and people from this very board, but didn't.....

by itself, especially with an ECA, will absolutely KILL your joints...by the end of my 8 week cycle of winny and xenadrine, my shoulders were like bone rubbing against bone...I just turned 30 and have been having joint problems ever since....they haven't been as bad since I gave in and did Deca a couple of years ago, but before that they were pretty bad.....

I have done var by itself on a few occasions and did not have any added problems in regards to joint pain, so that is an alternative, but much more expensive....I would recommend 20 mg(honestly enough if you are a rookie) - 40 mg of var (seperated in equal doses throughout the day) with a good creatine product, a good diet high in protien and a consistent workout schedule and sleep schedule to anyone ANYDAY over a winny only cycle....

just wanted to voice my opinion, because I should have listened to others when I asked this same question years ago...

 

[ddy7135]

Other than the joint pain, any other obvious sides worth mentioning?

 

[presguy]

winny isnt gonna get u cut u need to diet and do cardio as well at 14% bf u won't see much of its muscle hardening effects.

cardio is not a must. you need to put together a good diet.