WINNY IS HARMFUL---blood work results back....

[the gringo]

CPK

i'm interested in analyzing blood work after an 8 week Sost/Laurabolin cycle. I'm 5'10 and weigh 190-195 lbs.

Not a heavy one at all. Sost 500 mg and Laura 300 mg/week.

My CPK (Creatine Phospho Kinase) is off the roof. A 437*. The range is 38 to 180. (No panicking, though.) It's normally used as a heart attack/stroke indicator. But, in bb's, it can be a sign of work-out activity. Any similar experiences?

I think a cycle-specific blood information would be extremely helpful to all.

 

[gtaman]

I have to agree, I have felt very harsh while on Winny. I vow never to take it again (after I use up these last few tabs in my next cycle, of course).

Incidentally, what kinds of negative sides and feelings come with having your cholesterol levels screwed up?

Since I feel better fairly quickly after stopping the winny, maybe it is not too permanent.

 

[Audio8]

Incidentally, what kinds of negative sides and feelings come with having your cholesterol levels screwed up?

Since I feel better fairly quickly after stopping the winny, maybe it is not too permanent.

I don't feel any different on winny then when off. So to say that the cholesterol levels should return quickly, since you feel better after winny leaves your system, would not be an accurate conclusion. Unfortunately.

 

[gtaman]

How permanent would one or two 5-week cycles of winny be, do you figure?

 

[wilson6]

Its not just the winny. 30 mg/d of d-bol will have a pretty profound effect on supressing HDL as well.

W6

 

[CCrom]

Come on, guys - try to focus on the whole picture here! There are a few risks we have to consider whilst using AS and a worsening of our cholesterol levels is one of them. Having a messed up cholesterol level for a couple of months is evidently not good but won't kill you!

When bulking I presume one's diet is'nt totally clean but when the cycle is done one usually goes back to a healthy, clean diet. This fact together with a healthy dose of cardio and an AS-free body will all help the body's cholesterol levels to return to their normal range.

When overweight people are told to diet because of increased risk of cardio-/vascular diseases they cholesterol levels return to normal ranges as the weight drops. When they have reached a healthy weight and have started a "new life" with a good, clean diet and lots of exercise, they have no greater risk then other healthy individuals of getting cardio-/vascular diseases. The only problem they will have to deal with is how much arterosclerosis (hardened, saturated fat on the inside of the arteries) they have accumulated during their "fat" years. For these people, a cycle with orals would be MUCH more risky than you're average healthy individual.

Now, if these people can get through YEARS of bad habits with COMPLETELY fucked up cholesterol levels then we can definitely manage a couple of months with 17AA orals!!

Crom

 

[reconnect]

anyone use Clomid during cycle to help keep cholesterol on track?

 

[Audio8]

Having a messed up cholesterol level for a couple of months is evidently not good but won't kill you!

Show me the studies that support your conclusion that cholestrol side effects only last for a couple months.

 

[mike001]

Show me the studies that support your conclusion that cholestrol side effects only last for a couple months.

not sure he was refering to cholesterol side effects rather he was talkng about the few months the cholesterol level is off itself.

 

[Audio8]

not sure he was refering to cholesterol side effects rather he was talkng about the few months the cholesterol level is off itself.

hey mike,
yeah that is what i meant: The cholesterol side effects being off-balanced cholesterol levels. I have not seen any studies to support the notion that they only last a couple months. If anyone has gotten blood tests done within this time span and they did return to normal after a couple months, that would be wonderfull. But i have yet to hear this.