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winny & depo provera?
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First just want to check - your bf is taking clomid because he just came off a cycle? Apparently it makes u very depressed.
Depo -- this is probably one of the most bloat-inducing / bodyfat-retaining b/c's you can be on. Then throw in some winny and you are now confusing your body with all sorts of hormones. Generally most girls don't mix the b/c's and a cycle.
Why are you choosing to do a cycle & why are you choosing winny? There are more "predictable" things to take if you so choose, e.g. anavar. There are LOTS of threads on winny and the best options for women. Search on "winny" on the women's board. And finally what are your goals? Awesome results can be achieved with diet & training. The drugs will only produce results if the diet & training are consistent & tight.
Depo -- this is probably one of the most bloat-inducing / bodyfat-retaining b/c's you can be on. Then throw in some winny and you are now confusing your body with all sorts of hormones. Generally most girls don't mix the b/c's and a cycle.
Why are you choosing to do a cycle & why are you choosing winny? There are more "predictable" things to take if you so choose, e.g. anavar. There are LOTS of threads on winny and the best options for women. Search on "winny" on the women's board. And finally what are your goals? Awesome results can be achieved with diet & training. The drugs will only produce results if the diet & training are consistent & tight.
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there will be no health contraindications between the 2 hormones, nor will one make the other less effective.
the depression associated with clomid is more often than not caused by post cycle depression when the gains and lifts aren't where they used to be while on cycle. it has little to do with clomid. clomid is often associated with this effect because it is always used post cycle. patients who are just being treated for oligospermia and related diseases unrelated to anabolic steroid cycles report no symptoms of clinical depression
the depression associated with clomid is more often than not caused by post cycle depression when the gains and lifts aren't where they used to be while on cycle. it has little to do with clomid. clomid is often associated with this effect because it is always used post cycle. patients who are just being treated for oligospermia and related diseases unrelated to anabolic steroid cycles report no symptoms of clinical depression
Why 4mg? Is that what you are taking throughout the entire cycle? Is it oral or injection?
I've never taken Winny, but have heard/read about many bad experiences about it and females. What are your goals? What other cycles have you done?
AAS doesn't typically interfere with BC, but many think it is a bit counterproductive to take both together (I think the analogy is it's like taking Immodium and Ex-Lax together). This said, I am on BC and taken AAS - never had a problem and have had some good results. Maybe they would hae been better if I wasn't on BCP, but, oh well!
I've never taken Winny, but have heard/read about many bad experiences about it and females. What are your goals? What other cycles have you done?
AAS doesn't typically interfere with BC, but many think it is a bit counterproductive to take both together (I think the analogy is it's like taking Immodium and Ex-Lax together). This said, I am on BC and taken AAS - never had a problem and have had some good results. Maybe they would hae been better if I wasn't on BCP, but, oh well!
Oh, and how do you like the Depo? So many females say it made them gain tons of weight (fat). How long have you been on it?
Daisy Girl,
Injectable. I'm taking 4mg ED for the first week and then ramping up 2mg every week until I reach 10mg. That will be my mainstay.
As for past cycles, I have used primo, anavar, and deca. I didn't have good results w/deca. Bad bloating.
I've never experienced the infamous depo "weight gain & bloating". Maybe I'm just the fortunate one. I've been on depo for about 7 years now. I love it. The best part... NO PERIOD!
My main goal is to increase lean muscle mass. I love the shape of my muscles. I have full, round muscle bellies and I just want to show that off a little bit more. I am naturally strong, but I want to maximize my full potential w/o sacrificing quality of life. How about you?
Injectable. I'm taking 4mg ED for the first week and then ramping up 2mg every week until I reach 10mg. That will be my mainstay.
As for past cycles, I have used primo, anavar, and deca. I didn't have good results w/deca. Bad bloating.
I've never experienced the infamous depo "weight gain & bloating". Maybe I'm just the fortunate one. I've been on depo for about 7 years now. I love it. The best part... NO PERIOD!
My main goal is to increase lean muscle mass. I love the shape of my muscles. I have full, round muscle bellies and I just want to show that off a little bit more. I am naturally strong, but I want to maximize my full potential w/o sacrificing quality of life. How about you?
mystic 3,
I never experienced any of the "bad" side effects of depo. No cravings, no weight gain. Actually, for the first few months I was on depo I lost weight.
I can share what I consider to be the "good" side effects of depo. No period, no mood swings, and not having to remember to take a pill every day rocks!
Which Ortho pill are you taking? Right before I switched to the shot, I was on Ortho tri-Cyclen. The first 2 months were ok, but after that I experienced breakthrough bleeding. Not too bad, I could deal w/it. Then I began to have major mood swings and 3 straight weeks of bleeding! That was the final straw - I switched to the shot and I haven't looked back since.
As for my current winny cycle, I am so pleased w/my results. I have had significant gains in strength and my muscles are so hard! Needless to say, I am loving it!
Best of luck!
I never experienced any of the "bad" side effects of depo. No cravings, no weight gain. Actually, for the first few months I was on depo I lost weight.
I can share what I consider to be the "good" side effects of depo. No period, no mood swings, and not having to remember to take a pill every day rocks!
Which Ortho pill are you taking? Right before I switched to the shot, I was on Ortho tri-Cyclen. The first 2 months were ok, but after that I experienced breakthrough bleeding. Not too bad, I could deal w/it. Then I began to have major mood swings and 3 straight weeks of bleeding! That was the final straw - I switched to the shot and I haven't looked back since.
As for my current winny cycle, I am so pleased w/my results. I have had significant gains in strength and my muscles are so hard! Needless to say, I am loving it!
Best of luck!
badgrrl - glad you are having good results with the Winny so far! Good to wear you are ramping up to 10mg. Hope you get good results! So how long have you been on now? (have you started?) Remember, you can always drink winny too. ALthough I think your desages have to be a llittle higher because some of it isn't absorbed. I think. 
That is very good about Depo - I hear more bad than good. It is always nice to see/hear the other side. Sometimes all you hear about is the bad so you forget there are some people that get good results and are happy with Depo (but that also goes for anything!).
Me? I ate like a bear getting ready to go into hibernation for a couple months. Ugh. Going to lose some body fat, then start a cycle of nandrolone phenylpropinate and anavar this spring. Done both separately, want to try them together. I need to lose some BF and gain some strength! I'm pretty happy with my overall muscle amount, wouldn't mind gaining some in the upper body though.
Planning on attending the Galaxy Fitness Camp in Arizona in June, with a desire to compete in the obstacle course early next year.
Good Luck! Keep us posted on results!
That is very good about Depo - I hear more bad than good. It is always nice to see/hear the other side. Sometimes all you hear about is the bad so you forget there are some people that get good results and are happy with Depo (but that also goes for anything!).
Me? I ate like a bear getting ready to go into hibernation for a couple months. Ugh. Going to lose some body fat, then start a cycle of nandrolone phenylpropinate and anavar this spring. Done both separately, want to try them together. I need to lose some BF and gain some strength! I'm pretty happy with my overall muscle amount, wouldn't mind gaining some in the upper body though.
Planning on attending the Galaxy Fitness Camp in Arizona in June, with a desire to compete in the obstacle course early next year.
Good Luck! Keep us posted on results!
Daisy_Girl,
I started 2/15/03 w/4 mg injections ED. I ramped up to 6 mg ED on 2/24/03. On 3/3/03, I ramped up to 8mg ED. On 3/10/03 I will ramp up to 10mg, then back down to 8 mg on 3/17/03, then down to 6 mg 3/20/03, then down to 4 mg on 3/23/03, w/my last injection on 3/24/03.
I am very pleased w/my results. I use an insulin syringe, so it's easy and painless. I can feel the deposit for about 1 day, but no pain.
Sorry to hear about your depo experience. What BC are you taking?
Keep us updated on your spring cycle... I would like to know how the stack works for you.
Best of luck in Arizona! Sounds like a great camp... what all do they offer? Can you provide a link so that I can read up on it?
Thanks!
I started 2/15/03 w/4 mg injections ED. I ramped up to 6 mg ED on 2/24/03. On 3/3/03, I ramped up to 8mg ED. On 3/10/03 I will ramp up to 10mg, then back down to 8 mg on 3/17/03, then down to 6 mg 3/20/03, then down to 4 mg on 3/23/03, w/my last injection on 3/24/03.
I am very pleased w/my results. I use an insulin syringe, so it's easy and painless. I can feel the deposit for about 1 day, but no pain.
Sorry to hear about your depo experience. What BC are you taking?
Keep us updated on your spring cycle... I would like to know how the stack works for you.
Best of luck in Arizona! Sounds like a great camp... what all do they offer? Can you provide a link so that I can read up on it?
Thanks!
No, I never took Depo. Unfortunately, my gaining weight was ALL my fault. I took a break off working out hard and eating right....and never stopped...for 4 months. I'd say I gained about 10 pounds, no big deal, but just enough to make me feel yucky.
Sounds like your cycle is going great - that is so terrrific. The results are good? Congrats!
Galaxy/Nova Website:
http://www.galaxycompetition.com/fronts/index.htm
I'm working with a fitness competitor (Fitness America, USAs, Galaxy competitor,Weider Athlete, etc....) on training for the Galaxy, plus she is just starting to "mentor" me into the field of fitness. She's using her "connections" to help me meet people. It is such an amazing thing she is doing!
Sounds like your cycle is going great - that is so terrrific. The results are good? Congrats!
Galaxy/Nova Website:
http://www.galaxycompetition.com/fronts/index.htm
I'm working with a fitness competitor (Fitness America, USAs, Galaxy competitor,Weider Athlete, etc....) on training for the Galaxy, plus she is just starting to "mentor" me into the field of fitness. She's using her "connections" to help me meet people. It is such an amazing thing she is doing!
sort of OT- but I was reading that in black women depo provera is like chemical castration used for sex offenders. I think I read a post by macro saying something along that lines as well.
seems kinda fucked up and that the government knew it and was still pushing it as free birth control for low income women.
seems kinda fucked up and that the government knew it and was still pushing it as free birth control for low income women.
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