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will winnie hurt gains from anadrol???

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If I ad winstrol to anadrol will it hinder the gains because of the water? I know winstrol takes water out of you and the gains from anadrol are mostly water so is this a bad idea?
 
the real question is why would you want to mix them?

Two potent orals each with different uses and you want to use them both? I'd stick to one or the other along with your other injectable compounds (doubtful if there are any).

Save the winny for another time.
 
I have some left over tren but that is the same thing right? I just got off of test/tren but I swtched to anadrol at the end for a few weeks to get a lil bigger.
 
Phaded said:
I have some left over tren but that is the same thing right? I just got off of test/tren but I swtched to anadrol at the end for a few weeks to get a lil bigger.


you'll put on a few pounds with the drol, but probably lose most of it when you start PCT because it will be water.

I'd run the winny up unti PCT personally.
 
Phaded said:
If I ad winstrol to anadrol will it hinder the gains because of the water?QUOTE]

It could hinder the gains because your liver fails! I've never had any suspected liver probs, however from what I read on these boards, I'd give my liver a break between using these compounds and never consider using them together. Apparently the liver is very good at dealing with one poison at a time but not two .: dont drink alcohol with orals...
 
musketeer said:
Phaded said:
If I ad winstrol to anadrol will it hinder the gains because of the water?QUOTE]

It could hinder the gains because your liver fails! I've never had any suspected liver probs, however from what I read on these boards, I'd give my liver a break between using these compounds and never consider using them together. Apparently the liver is very good at dealing with one poison at a time but not two .: dont drink alcohol with orals...

Hey Musketeer - How is your leg doing? That was you, right? Hurt your leg doing extensions? I remember reading your post a while back. Hope you are well.
 
Phaded said:
I have some left over tren but that is the same thing right? I just got off of test/tren but I swtched to anadrol at the end for a few weeks to get a lil bigger.

No offense, but where the hell did you come up with this type of cycle? Just picking what you could find out of the closet and "throwing shit in as you go" is not a good plan. Test/tren, then anadrol, then winny??? You would have been way smarter with Test/Anadrol then Tren/Winny. ANd, no tren and winny are not the same at all, they are two completely different drugs. I don't mean to piss you off, but IMHO you really need to do more research before throwing things in your body like that.
 
daemian said:
Hey Musketeer - How is your leg doing? That was you, right? Hurt your leg doing extensions? I remember reading your post a while back. Hope you are well.


Well remembered pal. Yeah it was 4 weeks or so ago and I found out from a sports therapist that I had in fact torn a sheath surrounding the medial quad (teardrop) and the adductor (inside of thigh - pulls leg in sideways). It was called a grade 1 tear - Grade 3 is "off the bone". Anyhow I took a week off completely, and took 10 days off from doing anything that put any presseure on the legs (tougher than slowly going up stairs). Then I started doing cardio stuff like th ecross-trainer and bikes, plus a machine resistance workout 3 x week. I was able to do bent-over barbell rows with 295lb (x 8 reps) last week, and I squatted for the first time again a few days ago: 20 sets of 20 reps with just the 45lb bar. Tommorow I'll do something like 10x10 with 135lb and then just add weight and reduce the sets each week untill I'm back up to 350lb or so for a few sets in the 6-10 range.

My physio thinks that the 600lb rack deadlifts (600 x 10reps & 500 x 20reps) from the knee actually put a deep strain in the adductors (which contract heavily to stabalise the body durnig standing excercises) that weakened them during the leg workout 4 days later.

I realised what had gone wrong with the extensions: last week when I tried to finish the machine rehab workout with a 100rep set. As the burn really set in and I tried to fight through it, I noticed that my legs would turn out just after the initial contraction as the legs got just past a 90 degree angle. This would make the contraction easier as it allowed me to use my adductors almost like an extra quad, as I would then roate my legs inwards as I completed the rep.

What I must do in the future is concentrate on a fuller and more deliberate contraction and less on getting 30 reps with the stack by exploding into the fully contracted position.

Cheers for remembering me bud, don't worry, I'm still:

Always Outnumbered NEVER Outgunned!
 
I know about all steorids except masteron. I didn't get as big as I wanted so I added anadrol. I just wanted to add some strength at the end with the winnie too.
 
musketeer said:
Phaded said:
If I ad winstrol to anadrol will it hinder the gains because of the water?QUOTE]

It could hinder the gains because your liver fails! I've never had any suspected liver probs, however from what I read on these boards, I'd give my liver a break between using these compounds and never consider using them together. Apparently the liver is very good at dealing with one poison at a time but not two .: dont drink alcohol with orals...


Dont mix
 
musketeer said:
I realised what had gone wrong with the extensions: last week when I tried to finish the machine rehab workout with a 100rep set. As the burn really set in and I tried to fight through it, I noticed that my legs would turn out just after the initial contraction as the legs got just past a 90 degree angle. This would make the contraction easier as it allowed me to use my adductors almost like an extra quad, as I would then roate my legs inwards as I completed the rep.

What I must do in the future is concentrate on a fuller and more deliberate contraction and less on getting 30 reps with the stack by exploding into the fully contracted position.
QUOTE]

Congrat's to you for paying attention to the cause of your injury. I always ry to learn from others' mistakes, and I appreciate your note. I always write down notes in my training journal in regards to corrections to form, or how a minor injury occurred to prevent a major one. For ex., I tend to fuck up my shoulders and elbows when doing heavy bent-over dumbell rows off the floor. I found that I was cheating without realizing it by allowing my elbow to go out from my body, straining my rear delt/rotator cuff ass'y and elbow tendons too, as the weight was transferring from my back doing the work to my shoulder, which can't handle as much weigh, of course. It's always important to pay attention to the minor pains before they become major! Speedy recovery!

"Cheers."
 
ATLmuscles said:
No offense, but where the hell did you come up with this type of cycle? Just picking what you could find out of the closet and "throwing shit in as you go" is not a good plan. Test/tren, then anadrol, then winny??? You would have been way smarter with Test/Anadrol then Tren/Winny. ANd, no tren and winny are not the same at all, they are two completely different drugs. I don't mean to piss you off, but IMHO you really need to do more research before throwing things in your body like that.
Right own. Needs to plan cycle before hand and needs to do more research.
 
Phaded Anadrol is just water gains. Why the hell do you want water gains? You'll just get big and lose them after your cycle ends and you'll be depressed.
 
dr0832 said:
Phaded Anadrol is just water gains. Why the hell do you want water gains? You'll just get big and lose them after your cycle ends and you'll be depressed.
It's not just water gains. Give me a break.
 
I already did test and tren and got great gains but I am playin around since I won't be able to juice in the marines after summer. Just want to get big and look better than I already do. Just thought anadrol would get me there taht's all. Thankls for any help guys and karma is on it's way
 
screw it, I'll just take d-bol with it and get huge. Thanks bitches!
 
Phaded said:
I have some left over tren but that is the same thing right? I just got off of test/tren but I swtched to anadrol at the end for a few weeks to get a lil bigger.


U ever been interviewed by 20/20?

:worried:
 
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