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JLAWz

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My girlfriend is taking Prozac and she feels it isn't doing anything for her. She's wanting to stop taking it but doesn't feel like going to the Doc. She's on 25mg/day. Would ya'll please tell me the best way for her to stop taking this. I suggested to just take my pill cutter and cut them in half and let her taper off that way. Any info. will be greatly apprietiated! Karma to the first couple of educated answers. Thanks
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I came off Paxil by doing just that. I'd definately taper if I were her. I don't know much about prozac though.
 
Just call and talk to a nurse. Thats what I do when I don't feel like blowing the $20 on a co-pay.
 
Prosac and Zoloft are essentially the same thing - when I was on Zoloft the first time, they told me to taper off. I think they basically just screwed up and meant to tell me to taper off the trazodone, but instead told me the Zoloft.

You don't need to taper off of Zoloft, the way its half life works in the system it self tapers anyway and the sides, both good and bad don't get any worse as a result.

Trazodone on the other hand does get nasty if you don't taper off.

The main reason they recommend the taper on it is that if you start feeling bad again, you can easily start taking more again and the blood concentrations are still high enough that they can respond quickly enough.
But it isn't physically bad in any way to just stop.
 
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JLAWz said:


I'm asking this for a reason, NOT to hear what some fucking idiot thinks about it!
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You realize you're asking a baord full of idiots for medical advice, right??

That would make you only slightly more retarded than the rest of us.
 
It's better to taper off. It may not effect some people physically, but some it does. Besides, you don't want her mood to crash. The half-life of the drug isn't very long (hence the need for ed dosing), so it doesn't really self-taper like something that's around longer.

Get her some inositol hexophosphate (you can find it at beyond a century cheap), and USE THIS WHEN COMING OFF; it will help with anxiety, and I think depression too (although some people ascribe stricly anti-anxiety properties to it). I had wicked DTs coming off Effexor (was on Prozac before that) and inositol helped immensely; probably would have never got on prescription depression drugs if I'd known about it in the first place.

Inositol is a vitamin B1 sugar. Very safe and slightly sweet. Just spoon a couple grams in 3x a day while coming off. She can take as much as she wants/needs; I took 6 grams a day over divided doses (many need 10 or more grams though). It's very cheap at BAC. (it's a nice sleep aid too in the sense that it gives you very refreshing sleep)

Thank goodness I don't use anything now.
 
THeMaCHinE said:
It's better to taper off. It may not effect some people physically, but some it does. Besides, you don't want her mood to crash. The half-life of the drug isn't very long (hence the need for ed dosing), so it doesn't really self-taper like something that's around longer.
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WTF?

Paxil has a short half life and you MUST taper off of that - Prozac has a long half life, therefore you don't need to taper.

Effexor you *defintely* need to be careful coming off of.

The only reason to taper coming off of Zoloft or Prozac is if the person is at risk of being emotionally unstable - but if they don't think they need it anymore and have people around them, then it is no big deal to just stop.
 
Prozac itself has a 2-3 day half-life in the system. That's relatively long for an oral, but not really very long for an effective self taper.

It is *less* likely to cause withdrawl symptoms seen with other SSRI's, but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen. The physical withdrawl effects are called "SSRI Discontinuation Syndrome".
 
Elite Chat & Conversation is definitely where you want all medical questions answered.
 
you can also ask your pharmacist - my pharmacist doubles as my doctor when i have a question about medications. he's been very helpful.
 
THeMaCHinE said:
Prozac itself has a 2-3 day half-life in the system. That's relatively long for an oral, but not really very long for an effective self taper.

It is *less* likely to cause withdrawl symptoms seen with other SSRI's, but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen. The physical withdrawl effects are called "SSRI Discontinuation Syndrome".
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Where are you getting this? Are you sure you aren't thinking of Paxil? Paxil's half life is indeed a few days, and it has bad sides if you don't taper off of it.

The half life for Prozac is about 5 weeks. When you start taking it, they will have you taper up over as long as even 8 weeks to see how you will react (the good sides, like lessened depression won't show up until at least 3 weeks, but the bad sides like rashes or chills will ofte show up in a matter of days).
When you stop taking it, you will see a taper as well.

The withdrawl symptoms that 5% of users have are diziness that seems to be related to carbs (which makes sense since it involves serotonin release), and runny shits. This lasts 3-8 days if you are going to get it.

Again, the only reason to taper it is if you suspect the person will have a breakdown, and as long as they are monitored, this in itself doesn't even matter too much.

I would agree that it is a questionable drug to be taking due to other things - but to say that it has bad withdrawl, is addictive, or has a different half-life is just not true.
 
fuck - my computer just froze up - anyway - the half life actually is likely shorter

sorry, I was referring to the time it stays in your system including its metabolites and what effects your system.

that is 5 weeks.

the half-life itself is likely less and closer to 3-7 days.

my bad
 
No we're getting closer; some of it's metabolites, such as norfluoxitine have a longer half life (norfluoxitine has a half life of 7-8 days).

It (prozac) *does* has the lowest occurance of SSRI withdrawl symptoms, and probably for many, you could just stop taking it -- I'll concede that. Me, I tend to be extraordinarily cautious when dealing with brain chemistry. And especially after my withdrawls from Effexor (which I know is completely different, but *could* occur for some users of prozac), I tend to err on the side of caution...
 
THeMaCHinE said:
No we're getting closer; some of it's metabolites, such as norfluoxitine have a longer half life (norfluoxitine has a half life of 7-8 days).

It (prozac) *does* has the lowest occurance of SSRI withdrawl symptoms, and probably for many, you could just stop taking it -- I'll concede that. Me, I tend to be extraordinarily cautious when dealing with brain chemistry. And especially after my withdrawls from Effexor (which I know is completely different, but *could* occur for some users of prozac), I tend to err on the side of caution...
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on an unrelated note - is that Matthew Barney in your avatar?
 
NoDaddyNo said:



The withdrawl symptoms that 5% of users have are diziness that seems to be related to carbs (which makes sense since it involves serotonin release), and runny shits. This lasts 3-8 days if you are going to get it.
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Missed this on the first run-through -- one thing, Serotonin Syndrome is an entirely different complication than SSRI Withdrawl Syndrome, though they can run concurrently.

That said, didn't know about the relationship of carbs with Serotonin Syndrome, pretty interesting...
 
I've been where she is before. Even worse I used to do X and suffered major depression when I came off of it. I used St. John's Wort, 5htp and inositol.

I took St. John's wort 3 times a day. 100 MGs 5htp only at night with 3gms melantonin and inositol 3 times a day. Also L-tyrosine.

Hope that helps a little. It takes time. a lot of time. I've been clean 3 years now and just now do I feel balanced and happy. Good luck bro.
 
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